Why This Game Must Go Pay To Play

[satman83]

Know i now this will be unpopular with some and a few idiots will even
report me to the mods for writing this (babies ). But if this
game is ever going to reach its full potention then its has to be P2P.

The main problem here is the games largest user groups (10-16 year olds)
(Not all people within this age group (10-16) are bad players some
are my firends and are ok people, but the sad thing is most of them
the ones who come on to thise forum and flame someone like a retard
within their first post..our)
and idiotic and extremly stupid, they belive that there always right and
that when something happens to them its the end of the world...oh
and to justify people they know botting they assume that everyone
else is botting or they make up insane and stupid theories that make
no sence...(doesnt matter just so long that there right and in controll ) .
They also waste time writing the most awful and idiotic global chats and
play this game like they act in really life. there selfish, arogant and can
ever be wrong...oh and when ever they are wrong normaly reply with
the oh so wity responce of "muahahahha" or "go f**k your gay dad"

Also going P2P will also mean and end of item mail and with money
in, finaly bots can be banned and we can stop getting stupid comments.
I mean if its not JM making millions from bots who buy silk or
bribes to unban bots then its something else.
hopefully this game will one day become Pay to play...which will lead
to an improvement of services (end of item mail) and as it becomes
pay to play all the kids cant afford it and as such will leave....morons
find it funny ...saying things along the lines of (muhahahah your old
and a loser) when they find out that your over 18 . when ironicly
most people who play computer games or even MMO's are on average
aged 18-26. So if it meant paying for this game then the anoying kids
of course woundnt be able to pay for it and would then leave.

Also with a steady income then JM will stop there idiotic short gap messure
of throwing us new servers, which doesnt help at all (makes problems
worse). and improve the ones they have now. Also would help if the
GM's were online...its more akin to someone opening up an arcade and
having no members of staff just letting everyone run lose and do what
they want to do.

Know i understand that some people will reply saying that it wont work
or calling me stupid angrily (like most children do when they hear
something they dont like ). But as a free 2 play game. SRO is a joke
oh and those who would leave if it was P2P then please be my guest and
leave...because as a game that you pay for monthly, then things would
improve. what makes me laugh is that as a free game i dont and either
can anyone else expect any changes, i mean we dont give JM anything
in return and seeing how its free its not like they would lose anything.

[EwwBabel]

sro going p2p would be stupid, they are making enough money free. Nothing would be done about the bots, quit fooling yourself. WoW has tons of bots despite popular belief.

[XMoshe]

I find myself a bit offended...

I'm 16 myself and I am everything but what you are stating.
I write dumb globals but those are only for fun. If you dont
look to my globals I'm very friendly and always helpfull.
P2P wont help that much cuz they will start whine by their
parents to pay them a abbo (or what ever).

my 2 cents. =)

[Tasdik]

If Joymax gets rid of the bots they lose over half of their income

[Skitsefrenik]

P2G? Pay to Grind? For hardly any content what so ever?

[satman83]

wow half there income from bots .

1= SRO is not JM's only game.
2= they make more money from the licening rights (i.e KSRO to yahoo)
then from Item mail.

oh and as for bots...GW doesnt have a bot problem because they took
time out of get rid of it. something that would only be done for ISRO
if 2 things happen 1. we get a sponsor or 2 it goes P2P.

oh and by stupid Globals i meant ones where people talk about sex
or really stupid stuff...and i think you know what i mean....also i doubt
any parent is going to pay a monthly fee for there child to play a game.
but i wounldt be supprised

[SextoEspada]

P2P wouldn't work partly because this game is a grindfest, and also it wouldn't get rid of bots, don't lie to yourself, joymax is probably making more money now than they would in P2P because of so many that would quit....and GW doesn't have a bot problem? you can only get to lvl 20 in GW why would you need a bot?

[peex]

..(10-16 year olds) and idiotic and extremly stupid...

+1 can't stop laughing

[satman83]

P2P wouldn't work partly because this game is a grindfest, and also it wouldn't get rid of bots, don't lie to yourself, joymax is probably making more money now than they would in P2P because of so many that would quit....and GW doesn't have a bot problem? you can only get to lvl 20 in GW why would you need a bot?

ok WoW is a P2P and grindfest....and that does work . and like i
said if people quit, its those who cant afford to pay (i.e those who are
underage). oh and GW when it first came out..people did try to bot it
peopel still do, but bots are deleted right away and those people IP address and
e-mails are banned

[satman83]

Also so what if people quit the game?

i mean if they used the money of finaly improve it (much like they did
with KSRO). then they just attract new customers.

I just think people dont want to hear or think about it going P2P, but
considering how much money Blizzard are making JM must of or are
even seriously concidering it

[5m0k3]

If only you where right about the age of internet games.. ive been playing internet games sicne i was 9 and im 14 now.. Im veteran i know.. but though my oh so many years ive only ment 5 people over 20.. your playing a mmorpg its gonna be filled with immature kids.. also WoW is full of little kids.. I played there for 10 days (trial) and I found more immature morons then on here in 1.5 years.. Also puttin a price to play will change nothing most kids who play this game have there mothers credit card and buy a butt load of silk so whats stopping them from paying 15 dollars a month?

[satman83]

Also puttin a price to play will change nothing most kids who play this game have there mothers credit card and buy a butt load of silk so whats stopping them from paying 15 dollars a month?

the fact that at most when i brought silk i spent £9 and that lasted me for
just over 2 months in this game. Also i think that "mother" is going to
say something about spending each month every month

[Blurred]

Acording to this topic: http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=36498

The way people spend money on SRO they should have enough money to stop bots.


If they can control the price of the globals or perhaps limit them (2 - 5 globals a day) eventually the game will be getting more mature and stop the global fest.

[borat2]

Know i now this will be unpopular with some and a few idiots will even
report me to the mods for writing this (babies Rolling Eyes ).

an adult claiming this as his starting statement cant be taken seriously.

The main problem ...responce of "muahahahha"

are you one of the super humans who skipped puberty and did not act childish when they were that age? dude as an adult ( a thing you claim to be) you should be able to neglect those comments.

Also going P2P ....would then leave.

This game is a free game stop thinking anything else just because you buy silk, buying silk does not give you any more privileges or makes you more than the non silkbuyers you are the one choosing to pay for a free game its not the other way around so basically learn to live with it.

Also with a steady...what they want to do.

What joymax is doing is actually amazing smart clean out servers create new ones, the game is highly addictive, if you get banned there are a few who actually will quit rest just restarts and guess what? they buy new silk as usual. this keeps the money flowing i am pretty sure its not a big wallet but still is a moderate income.
Basically you missed the whole point and the whole problem in this game
it is not the player bots we all should flame but any "legit" who is a customer to any of the goldsellers.
gold is what the game is all about gaining levels is practically very easy but getting tons of gold is harder and if people were not greedy and actually had the patience to gain their levels and gold we all would live happily ever after.

The game is great making it p2p will result in less crowded and probably empty servers a thing i would not want to yes its great to log in your first try but after all that long way to your levels, gold and skills you will want to pvp.

[Alfred]

I don't think the problems would be solved if this game went p2p unless joymax dedication to iSRO also changed.

And if it did, there would be no reasons to go p2p.

[numatan]

Good points brought up by many here.

If Joymax was really concerned with the future of SRO and their financial health, they present a P2P model that gives paying players additional areas, pets, meaningful quests, and/or additional skills or classes like other MMOs. Maybe that will happen, but most likely they see the item mall as a replacement for providing P2P content.

As for the dumb kids, well... they're everywhere. A monthly fee is not going to keep most of them out.

[hellsharpt]

Sataman you are grossly misinformed. First since when is WoW a grindfest. I've never killed more than 50 of any kind of monster. I have a full quest log at all times (that's how you level). You really should get some first hand knowledge before you talk about something like an expert.

As for your dings on people's maturity, I say this as a forum goer, you fling your age around like it's an entitlement and it makes you right. It does not. I've met many people in games and in real life that are more mature and act more civil than you despite their age being under 16. They don't play the age card, yet that seems to be your main arguement. It's offensive and incorrect.

Lastly when people offer legitimate arguements you revert to your rhetoric rather than responding to or even acknowleding their points.

[satman83]

As for your dings on people's maturity, I say this as a forum goer, you fling your age around like it's an entitlement and it makes you right. It does not. I've met many people in games and in real life that are more mature and act more civil than you despite their age being under 16. They don't play the age card, yet that seems to be your main arguement. It's offensive and incorrect.

Lastly when people offer legitimate arguements you revert to your rhetoric rather than responding to or even acknowleding their points.

am sorry where is it.... . because am not playing the age card at all
people in this game the worst ones...are kids, if you dont want to belive
me then dont but its true. Also apart from people saying its a "bad idea"
no one has given a credible or legitimate argument to why it wounldt
work apart from there onw view.

funny how this ended up like i thought it would. with people just dismissing
it and belittling and try to make punch holes in my credibility

[[SD]Frites]

you are a racist...

im 15 year and do I flame ?

if you had some trouble with teenagers dont blame them all.
you cant stop us playing sro

ps: i bet you are like 17-18 years

[Blurred]

you are a racist...

im 15 year and do I flame ?

if you had some trouble with teenagers dont blame them all.
you cant stop us playing sro

he's racist? no

Prejudice? Yes

[Skitsefrenik]

What you mean GW doesn't have a bot? They have plenty. Spam bots in Lions arch, Kaneing center, granite citadel have farm bots, and etc. Go to Fort Aspenwood. People bot like theres no tomorrow.

[[SD]Frites]

you are a racist...

im 15 year and do I flame ?

if you had some trouble with teenagers dont blame them all.
you cant stop us playing sro

he's racist? no

Prejudice? Yes

thats the word I was looking for but english is not my 1st language

[Key-J]

Dude, you know. I dont think P2P would solve the problem.

As you said, they would loose a large portion of their main demographic, which includes me btw. Im 16. n i do hope that im not included in that generalisation of 10-16 year olds.

A lot of the people ive met here in SRO, and a majority of those who i have become friends with are over 20. Yet, ive seen them react in the same and/or worse as the examples you give up there. Ive met, families. Fathers and Children. Husbands and wives. People looking for relationships. Girl friends and boyfriends. People who have left to join the army, people who have been injured badly during the time ive known them. All these people, weather they be 10, or 32 they all act and respond in a similar way to the game, no matter if you are 10 or 32, if you get Poped for example, you are still going to get pissed.

So, what you need to base this on, is not age. but Maturity. Now of course, we all want to say. Yup im real mature! but in face, were not as mature as we think. Well thats what i believe. I mean, i dont think im that mature. Yes its true, i am more sensible than some of the people my age, and im proud of that. but im still one of these "kids", and i want to enjoy my "childhood" persay. We want to act silly, we want to have fun.

We want to write witty and joking globals and have fun with the people who respond. I agree tho, the people who post all those "suck my duck" globals, racist globals, and globals that intend to ruin the game. Well thats just different. but you must remember. Those people dont have to be 10-16. I mean, isnt it more likely that they are older because they are buying silk! I mean, me at 16 i am yet to have a credit card, i highly doubt that a 10 year old would be more likely to have one.

Also, i dont think that making it P2P would solve the problems, i mean JM is getting close to or more money than they would for a P2P program. They would be dealing with the problems the same way as they are now. I dont see a good justification of how P2P would improve the services....

[satman83]

What joymax is doing is actually amazing smart clean out servers create new ones, the game is highly addictive, if you get banned there are a few who actually will quit rest just restarts and guess what? they buy new silk as usual. this keeps the money flowing i am pretty sure its not a big wallet but still is a moderate income.

ok...well yes i can see that, but you have to remeber one thing. JM dont
do that. they dont clean out servers. all that happens is that when they
make a new server people go it belive it will be lag and empty (yes it will
be its new ). but within a week or so that server is new and then
people demand a new one. I mean just look at the pattern.

1=people demand new less crowded server
2=JM gives new server and people join
3=lots of people join server and it reaches its limit in a short time
4=people demand new less crowded server

I mean if JM were really smart then why not just "down " the servers we
have now and just improve them, yes easier done then said

[satman83]

But....

people are saying here that money there getting at this moment is
enough for them? ok far enough.

but then where are they GM's? yes we get the same automated responce
every once in a while, but when it comes down to it...do you really think
a game that recives a set income from all of its players compared to a
game that only receives varied monetary installments at random times
doesnt and cant afford to have better services?

oh and key there are a lot of people who get their parents to buy them
silk.
and yes some may same am being prejudic but considering how when
you ask the age of the people acting mature....nearly all of them are
quite young. But saying that theres no way to stop idiots or immature
people to play this game.

and the sad thing is people out there think that saying things like "go s**k
my dick" is extremly funny.

[Tasdik]

wow half there income from bots .

1= SRO is not JM's only game.
2= they make more money from the licening rights (i.e KSRO to yahoo)
then from Item mail.

oh and as for bots...GW doesnt have a bot problem because they took
time out of get rid of it. something that would only be done for ISRO
if 2 things happen 1. we get a sponsor or 2 it goes P2P.

oh and by stupid Globals i meant ones where people talk about sex
or really stupid stuff...and i think you know what i mean....also i doubt
any parent is going to pay a monthly fee for there child to play a game.
but i wounldt be supprised

Ah alright

[Tasdik]

Well hmm....what if lets say you bought the game like on guildwars for lets say......15-20 bucks and you didn't have to pay monthly now think about it Silkroad has 2 mill users I think so you do the math lats alot of cash just right there

[satman83]

well yes...that would work, but as it is i wouldnt spend £20 for a game as
bad as this

[Tasdik]

but you still think we should p2p how much do you think we should pay?

[satman83]

Also at the end of the day its all about money and how they can make
the most of it.
I mean its clear they dont give a damn about the users (i.e those who
play)

Tasdik question:

well as the game is...umm £5 to £8