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4:1 STR bladers??

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:41 am
by Stickwell
4:1 STr side bladers any good? thanx

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:43 am
by [SD]happynoobing
isn't that basically pure str? u put 3 points into str + the 1 point put in automatically and u get 4:1 :wink:

Re: 4:1 STR bladers??

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:45 am
by Reebok1019
Stickwell wrote:4:1 STr side bladers any good? thanx


Just do pure strength like most others.. Dont mess up something that is already good.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:01 am
by Stickwell
its already made its my friend Im thinking of trading char from another gamefor this 4:1 hybrid

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:07 am
by Sc(+)pE16
I agree with reebok.

Re: 4:1 STR bladers??

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:49 am
by takolin
Reebok1019 wrote:
Stickwell wrote:4:1 STr side bladers any good? thanx


Just do pure strength like most others.. Dont mess up something that is already good.


Why are people afraid for the unknown.
People should realise chinese chars can go hybrid, unlike eurochars who are forced to go pure.

It all comes down to this
You trade damage for HP incase of an int hybrid and HP for damage in case of an str hybrid.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:17 am
by YangKang
dont be afraid of going hybrid but u should look how much hybrid u wanna go. a tip go to aege its filled with hybrid bladers IMO 35~ points in int are fine u still end up with 100% phy and 57+% mag

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:45 am
by BrokenSaint
IMO there is NO USE for int if you wanna go blader, since bladers do kd+stab and sometimes, the chain combos. Magical attacks are definitely unnecessary. Bladers are known for their insane defense, but the downside to that they have slightly lower damage than full str glaivers. So YangKang's idea might be a good idea since int ups the damage, but you gotta maintain the high physical percentage. At least 96% or up. Then again, bladers use physical attacks, so it may be weaker. Who knows, you can try it for yourself and see wat happens.

But if you have insanely large amount of gold, and can afford lots of alchemy stones, go FULL STR, since you can always add INT+STR to your gear.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:23 am
by Alfred
A friend of mine is adding some int to his blader and it seems to work good.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:10 pm
by PsYch008
INT is absolutely beneficial to a blader, but id say go pure str, and add int with alchemy.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:15 pm
by justaskphil
PsYch008 wrote:INT is absolutely beneficial to a blader, but id say go pure str, and add int with alchemy.

+1 - will work really well if find a blade that has super Magic and mag reinforce % in order to utilize the extra int.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:16 pm
by [TS]=Hark=[TS]
ok if 4:1 is hybrid... THEN WTH IS PURE??? you can only put 3 on anything, if you put all on str + the 2 taht are automaticly added to str and int, is there anyway you can be more pure then 4:1?


i mean can you fiddle with the options and make it so it dont automaticly place 2 or your stat points? hmmm :roll:

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:27 pm
by YangKang
no you cant but 4:1 ISNT pure, PURE is when u put EVERY single point u can into str. 4:1 is already hybrid because u put 1 point into int. adn those 2 points that are auto. added actually dont count when you say i go hybrid/pure w/e

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:31 pm
by [TS]=Hark=[TS]
so there is absolutly no way to go pure in this game at all?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:35 pm
by YangKang
theres no way to go "PURE" int but u shouldnt worry actually these 2 points just help you get ure balance back because each level u raise it gets harder to get 1% of balance so i wouldnt mind much just relax ;D

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:11 pm
by er1c
4:1 is the same as 3:0, or a pure. You get 5 points every time you level, but 2 are used to level HP and MP automatically. So you only have 3 left.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:34 pm
by EsQuiRe
er1c wrote:4:1 is the same as 3:0, or a pure. You get 5 points every time you level, but 2 are used to level HP and MP automatically. So you only have 3 left.


No. When u talk about 4:1 hybrid u dont consider the 2 points u have automatically assigned when u lvl (1 in int and 1 in str). U are talking about the 3 stat points u get to do with watever u like. 4:1 means that say at lvl 2 u add 3 str then lvl 3 u would 1 in and 2 str then lvl 4 u would 2 str and 1 int and so on.4:1 is hybrid 3:0 is pure str.

Now the answer the question, should blader go hybrid? imo no a hybrid blader is pointless. bladers already have less hp then glaivers so addin int u lose valuable defence. and adding only 1 int for every 3 str u wouldnt get any considerable increase in magical balance that would effect your over attacking power greatly. Bladers are not known for their hitting rather defence so a little bit increase in attack power is really not gonna make a difference.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:58 pm
by Takunya
Why not since bladers are almost unable to kill at 80 cap. i guess it'll get even worse for bladers at 90 cap. people will get more hp. ok we'll also get new skills and weapons but i still think bladers will still lack damage. putting some int could be an affective move to increase blader's attacks but 4:1 doesnt seem to be a good idea. i'd suggest 6:1 or 7:1.
ps: if i were to train a blader, i would go for pure str xD it's already darn hard to lvl blader, i'd really be scared of messing it.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:01 pm
by YangKang
zomg like I said 30-60 points in int aslong u stay at 100% phy or near it ure fine dont go under 97% or ure cursed by black fox!

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:16 pm
by Rainigul
happynoobing wrote:isn't that basically pure str? u put 3 points into str + the 1 point put in automatically and u get 4:1 :wink:


+1

Anyways, I imagine if you were a str hybrid, you should be blade. Extra defence from shield, and supposedly extra attack from int (but that's arguable).

Pure str is best though.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:18 pm
by MastaChiefX
PsYch008 wrote:INT is absolutely beneficial to a blader, but id say go pure str, and add int with alchemy.


What if you have both :)

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:38 pm
by er1c
MADD wrote:
er1c wrote:4:1 is the same as 3:0, or a pure. You get 5 points every time you level, but 2 are used to level HP and MP automatically. So you only have 3 left.


No. When u talk about 4:1 hybrid u dont consider the 2 points u have automatically assigned when u lvl (1 in int and 1 in str). U are talking about the 3 stat points u get to do with watever u like. 4:1 means that say at lvl 2 u add 3 str then lvl 3 u would 1 in and 2 str then lvl 4 u would 2 str and 1 int and so on.4:1 is hybrid 3:0 is pure str.

Now the answer the question, should blader go hybrid? imo no a hybrid blader is pointless. bladers already have less hp then glaivers so addin int u lose valuable defence. and adding only 1 int for every 3 str u wouldnt get any considerable increase in magical balance that would effect your over attacking power greatly. Bladers are not known for their hitting rather defence so a little bit increase in attack power is really not gonna make a difference.


uhhh ok? i dont get what your point is but 4:1 is the same as 3:0. he wants to become a STR BLADER. does that help you? if not i put it in bigger font.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:42 pm
by EsQuiRe
er1c wrote:
MADD wrote:
er1c wrote:4:1 is the same as 3:0, or a pure. You get 5 points every time you level, but 2 are used to level HP and MP automatically. So you only have 3 left.


No. When u talk about 4:1 hybrid u dont consider the 2 points u have automatically assigned when u lvl (1 in int and 1 in str). U are talking about the 3 stat points u get to do with watever u like. 4:1 means that say at lvl 2 u add 3 str then lvl 3 u would 1 in and 2 str then lvl 4 u would 2 str and 1 int and so on.4:1 is hybrid 3:0 is pure str.

Now the answer the question, should blader go hybrid? imo no a hybrid blader is pointless. bladers already have less hp then glaivers so addin int u lose valuable defence. and adding only 1 int for every 3 str u wouldnt get any considerable increase in magical balance that would effect your over attacking power greatly. Bladers are not known for their hitting rather defence so a little bit increase in attack power is really not gonna make a difference.


uhhh ok? i dont get what your point is but 4:1 is the same as 3:0. he wants to become a STR BLADER. does that help you? if not i put it in bigger font.


No 4:1 is not the same as 3:0. When somone says the ratio of their chars is 2:1 or 3:1 or 4:1 etc, they mean only the 3 stat points u get the work with, and not the 2 u get automatically assigned.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:47 pm
by er1c
OMG ARE YOU BLIND? HES BECOMING A PURE STR BLADER!!!!! CANT YOU SEE!?!?!!?!?? LOOK SAD THNG I NEEED TO EXPLAIN THIST O YOU. WHEN YOU LEVEL, YOU GET 5 POINTS, 2 OF THOOSE POINTS ARE USED AUTOMATICALLY. 1 IN HP AND 1 IN MP. YOU HAVE 3 LEFT. IN HIS CASE, HE GONNA USE THEM ON STR. THATS 4:1. MAN YOU CANT ADMITT YOUR WRONG CANT YOU? SEE YOU THINK IM TALKING ABOUT 4:1 WITHOUT THE 2 AUTOMATICS, BUT YOUR WRONG. SO GRAD A HANDFULL OF CHILL PILLS

Re: 4:1 STR bladers??

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:54 pm
by EsQuiRe
Stickwell wrote:4:1 STr side bladers any good? thanx



Hmm for some reason that doesnt sound like he is thinking of doing a pure str to me. and lay of the caps b4 u tell me to take a chill pill :roll:

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:00 am
by er1c
hmm for some reason that does sound like he is thinking of making a pure str. and need some grammar school boy. takes some mental classes first

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:23 am
by Kaigar
Stickwell wrote:its already made its my friend Im thinking of trading char from another gamefor this 4:1 hybrid


hybrid: ie: NOT PURE

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:27 am
by Ell
er1c wrote:OMG ARE YOU BLIND? HES BECOMING A PURE STR BLADER!!!!! CANT YOU SEE!?!?!!?!?? LOOK SAD THNG I NEEED TO EXPLAIN THIST O YOU. WHEN YOU LEVEL, YOU GET 5 POINTS, 2 OF THOOSE POINTS ARE USED AUTOMATICALLY. 1 IN HP AND 1 IN MP. YOU HAVE 3 LEFT. IN HIS CASE, HE GONNA USE THEM ON STR. THATS 4:1. MAN YOU CANT ADMITT YOUR WRONG CANT YOU? SEE YOU THINK IM TALKING ABOUT 4:1 WITHOUT THE 2 AUTOMATICS, BUT YOUR WRONG. SO GRAD A HANDFULL OF CHILL PILLS

ROFL did you just tell him chill out? Usually when you talk about ratios you exclude the points added automatically.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:28 am
by MastaChiefX
er1c wrote:OMG ARE YOU BLIND? HES BECOMING A PURE STR BLADER!!!!! CANT YOU SEE!?!?!!?!?? LOOK SAD THNG I NEEED TO EXPLAIN THIST O YOU. WHEN YOU LEVEL, YOU GET 5 POINTS, 2 OF THOOSE POINTS ARE USED AUTOMATICALLY. 1 IN HP AND 1 IN MP. YOU HAVE 3 LEFT. IN HIS CASE, HE GONNA USE THEM ON STR. THATS 4:1. MAN YOU CANT ADMITT YOUR WRONG CANT YOU? SEE YOU THINK IM TALKING ABOUT 4:1 WITHOUT THE 2 AUTOMATICS, BUT YOUR WRONG. SO GRAD A HANDFULL OF CHILL PILLS



LOLS!

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:37 am
by Meow
MastaChiefX wrote:
er1c wrote:OMG ARE YOU BLIND? HES BECOMING A PURE STR BLADER!!!!! CANT YOU SEE!?!?!!?!?? LOOK SAD THNG I NEEED TO EXPLAIN THIST O YOU. WHEN YOU LEVEL, YOU GET 5 POINTS, 2 OF THOOSE POINTS ARE USED AUTOMATICALLY. 1 IN HP AND 1 IN MP. YOU HAVE 3 LEFT. IN HIS CASE, HE GONNA USE THEM ON STR. THATS 4:1. MAN YOU CANT ADMITT YOUR WRONG CANT YOU? SEE YOU THINK IM TALKING ABOUT 4:1 WITHOUT THE 2 AUTOMATICS, BUT YOUR WRONG. SO GRAD A HANDFULL OF CHILL PILLS



LOLS!


CAPS FTW!!!!