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is joymax really gettin smarter

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:45 pm
by PsYch008
are they really going to be able to track modded clients and ban that way? discuss. :love:

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:46 pm
by MastaChiefX
No.

:(

Re: is joymax really gettin smarter

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:47 pm
by Innovacious
PsYch008 wrote:are they really going to be able to track modded clients and ban that way? discuss. :love:


knowing joymax it will probably be like the viet ip block when it was first activated. The people with modded clients will carry on and the people with clean clients will get banned.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:48 pm
by satman83
Yes, only if they do it propely, either way theres always going to be someone crying about moaning about something.

so at the end of the day they just cant win

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:48 pm
by DarkLaw
MastaChiefX wrote:No.

:(


+1

although i really dont care anymore. :(

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:59 pm
by SextoEspada
i doubt this will go into effect, there's just too many factors for it to work properly

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:22 pm
by PsYch008
lol everyone decided on this really quickly. :-P

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:11 am
by greenfire570
not even a bit... :banghead: its always crowded in al servers always patching and and so much botters! i guess they cant fully eliminate botters :x

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:14 am
by iSteal
No...Joymax sucks

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:20 am
by MaSaMuNe
Joymax is either REALLY ignorant, or playing us all... Though its probally the former, you never know. =)

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:05 am
by Draquish
I believe Joymax is too light on it's consequences on cheating.


If I ever make an MMORPG; first offense: IP Ban, but before that, a little "update" would be downloaded into that individual's PC.

*whistles*

:roll:

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:05 am
by IguanaRampage
No.

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:07 am
by cin
draquish wrote:If I ever make an MMORPG; first offense: IP Ban


agree on that one.
botters can now just make their new char and
bot with it some more. if their ip is banned they
will not be playing this game at all anymore

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:10 am
by Draquish
IguanaRampage wrote:No.


Image

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:11 am
by Xeroist
There really is no such thing as IP bans anymore, you can change your IP very easily these days.

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:47 am
by ResTnPieces
DarkLaw wrote:
MastaChiefX wrote:No.

:(


+1

although i really dont care anymore. :(


+2

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:50 am
by CrazyAztec
Xeroist wrote:There really is no such thing as IP bans anymore, you can change your IP very easily these days.


i did that for 01239570123720 times.

joymax = couple of brains
world = 2billion brains

so joymax VS the world = joymax owned.

The only way to shut this up is....
Joymax shut SRO off or sell them to a better company with better management.

oh yeah..you're not even listening.

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:29 am
by Sharp324
unless they pay for something like PB that activly scans the client then no...but we already discussed this and im too tired to get into details

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:47 am
by timtam
i hope they get smarter

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:49 pm
by PR0METHEUS
Seems if they want to check your client, they could just send a baseline .pk2 file (for media, data, and any others) to the client, have the client do a diff on them and see if there are any "unacceptable" differences. Perhaps that would be better to do on the server end, but that would be a LOT of storage to temporarily store the .pk2 files of all players. But they wouldn't all have to be done at once. The server could randomly request .pk2 files from a random sample of players to be transferred to the server, scan them there, and then ban any offenders.

It shouldn't be that hard.

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:51 pm
by SuicideGrl
Xeroist wrote:There really is no such thing as IP bans anymore, you can change your IP very easily these days.

+1. do you know how hard it is to keep banned users off this forum? i've banned a few people at least 10x.

besides, for people playing at large universities, internet cafes, etc., this would ban a lot more than just that one person.

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:54 pm
by downfall.hex
well. they will do anything to get more money from us.

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:55 pm
by Stephanus
Dont be morons to ban some ip-s, ban mac adresses :twisted:
Those are burned in the pc of every users and isp-s verífy with mac adresses too.

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:02 pm
by jichiong
SuicideGrl wrote:
Xeroist wrote:There really is no such thing as IP bans anymore, you can change your IP very easily these days.

+1. do you know how hard it is to keep banned users off this forum? i've banned a few people at least 10x.

besides, for people playing at large universities, internet cafes, etc., this would ban a lot more than just that one person.


i agree with sg, i think this is the primary reason why jm does/will not ban ip, since most ppl in asia play in internet cafes, hence if ip ban, no one can play in the cafe...

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:04 pm
by PsYch008
Stephanus wrote:Dont be morons to ban some ip-s, ban mac adresses :twisted:
Those are burned in the pc of every users and isp-s verífy with mac adresses too.


isnt the mac address tied to the NIC? In that case, just buy a new NIC lolz. I'm not sure about that tho...

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:11 pm
by oktaytheazer
no matter what everone says i belive in Joymax :) i hope they realy get "smarter" to shudup peps who said no 8) :P

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:15 pm
by PR0METHEUS
PsYch008 wrote:
Stephanus wrote:Dont be morons to ban some ip-s, ban mac adresses :twisted:
Those are burned in the pc of every users and isp-s verífy with mac adresses too.


isnt the mac address tied to the NIC? In that case, just buy a new NIC lolz. I'm not sure about that tho...


Yes, the MAC address is tied to the NIC. Every NIC has its own unique MAC address.

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:17 pm
by JackB4u3r
They must make updates for several versions of SilkRoad, they don't have time to find a way to detect modded clients. xD

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:21 pm
by Blurred
PsYch008 wrote:
Stephanus wrote:Dont be morons to ban some ip-s, ban mac adresses :twisted:
Those are burned in the pc of every users and isp-s verífy with mac adresses too.


isnt the mac address tied to the NIC? In that case, just buy a new NIC lolz. I'm not sure about that tho...


but its still better than IP ban :(

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:27 pm
by satman83
lets not get carried away....lets find away to stop bots form logging on
before we start banning them