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The sync of legit & botters - The dream of JM
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:59 am
by Cnplus
I dont take credit for this, but seems like a win-win for JM & legits. (taken from rev6 anti-botting site )
Stamina:
Website
What is stamina...
It worth reading it, it a feature so that Silkroad can keep the bot community while regulating everything.
Basically it a stamina bar to calculate the amount of XP/SP you gain by monster.
The more consecutive hours you play without a break, the least xp you gain.
Then you can go to town and regain the stamina.
It's just to slightly reduce the speed at which it take to level up.
And also increase the game interaction between player.
Though won't do anything to block bot, who knows.
Maybe Joymax interested in a method where they don't need to ban bot.
I felt it was an interesting method...
discuss
EDIT - ugh just realised this is going to be ripped to pieces by flamers/mods

Re: The sync of legit & botters - The dream of JM
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:02 am
by Crumpets
Cnplus wrote:I dont take credit for this, but seems like a win-win for JM & legits. (taken from rev6 anti-botting site )
Stamina:
Website
What is stamina...
It worth reading it, it a feature so that Silkroad can keep the bot community while regulating everything.
Basically it a stamina bar to calculate the amount of XP/SP you gain by monster.
The more consecutive hours you play without a break, the least xp you gain.
Then you can go to town and regain the stamina.
It's just to slightly reduce the speed at which it take to level up.
And also increase the game interaction between player.
Though won't do anything to block bot, who knows.
Maybe Joymax interested in a method where they don't need to ban bot.
I felt it was an interesting method...
discuss
Rev6 are being idiots. This won't work, I know plenty of players [ Mainly chinese ] who NEVER interact with others. And yes they are legit, making them HAVE to go to town to not look liek a bot will ruin the whole purpose of staying out grinding as long as possible.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:06 am
by Cnplus
well they dont have to go to town , it was just a brain storm really. Its true i dont agree with the interaction part , but say 4-5 hours of constant grinding..
if you think yes botters might get around it, BUT NOT AUTO IT BOTS which account for a decent percentage it would allow some buffer between legit people & botters to even out the insane leveling done by bots and legits who can only afford to grind for a handful of hours.
All in all JM would still profit from botters buying what-not & legits would have less of a hard time due to the bots being capped.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:08 am
by TenKai
they took this idea from rappelz and it rly sux in that game tbh dun think it would be diffrent if they put it in sro
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:12 am
by Ice771x
wow rev6 sucks. thats a stupid ass idea. everyone already complains about how long it takes to level up.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:15 am
by FuryAngle
A SP farmers worst nighmare, taking breaks from farming, also taking breaks from GT. This will never work. it would be more simple for JM to buy iSRObot and just block it. Or implent that you pay a fee if you are cought botting, along with a BAN

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:17 am
by Kitty
So what your saying is that I have to take the long trip down to the den more often?
No thanks.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:20 am
by Cnplus
well as i said its just a brain storm, hell you could even modify it so if you ARE caught botting you are PERMENANTLY capped instead of a ban?
that way when they buy a GT , they only get slightly less exp then norm whilst on the GT.
That way there would be no need for time capping

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:22 am
by Cnplus
I think the main point is , If JM implemented some sort of buffer they could still reap the profits or, if botters decided to kick up about it , the botting community would be thinned out more.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:24 am
by francomade
How about you have a portable speeping bag in your inventory? You had like 100% stamina and when it goes to 10%, it says you chracter needs to rest so you right click the sleeping bad and sleep for like 10 secs AND ENTER VERFICATION CODE too.
Then, continue training as per normal! Woohoo.
Omg, I win.

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:25 am
by TenKai
rev6 is a joke,all they do is state the obvious and make dumb ideas. they post some stuff about fixing CCF.. uhm hello? they already fixed it pretty much i dont here anyone complaining about it anymore at least

, calling out botters because they sent them a party invite.. lol EVERYONE knows who bots and who doesnt whatever idiot who gave them money should get a Fuckn refund.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:48 am
by Devotia
Sounds nice, but it wouldn't do much.
Any time limit that was imposed would only hinder legit players (how many tmies have you gotten into a grind session and lost track of time. It would suck to get really into the groove and find out the last hour you only got 75% xp.) Bots would get around it by TPing every X minutes and running back to training area. And eventually, so would players. So basically botters would become more efficient than they already are, and have a bigger advantage. Theonly difference for them is that they would have to pay slightly more to get the same amount of xp.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:02 am
by sagelanoj
Gosh and I thought grinding 2 hours at bandits wasn't long enough, and now this feature? Well, I do need the repairs, but still a hassle.

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:05 am
by MrJoey
Geee, the game is already designed for grind whores (no offense to anyone). Add that, and people will want to bot even more.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:18 am
by NuclearSilo
There is none good method against botter. What humain can do, bot can always imitate. The only thing bot cant do is "to think". So JM should implement something that require the humain "brain".
Btw, i want to present u a technology of AI : robot can think =)
Here, u can chat with this robot. It's very fun. (dont flame me of advertising plz

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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:38 am
by LivithiuM
Actually his idea of timestamping items was a brilliant idea I think.
An item is bound to a player for a certain period of time so if the item WAS ccfed then it would be blocked along with the player.
If the item was not ccfed after a certain period of time (timestamp) the item could then be traded with others in the game.
This system would greatly remove most ppl's desire to buy gold online.
People can trade for monkey/gt for in game gold they have worked for like SRO was originally before ccf became rampant.
I think his stamina idea is not so well thought out however but at least he is trying to supply solutions and not problems.
All I ever see is flaming... Give it a break and appreciate that rev6 is trying to give this game a chance of being fun again.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:58 am
by XuChu
those group of addicts seriously have nothing else to do do they
even if this works im quite positive joymax will add something like exp limit remover except with fancier name like "talent" for a week 46 silks.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:03 am
by Doppleganger
FuryAngle wrote:A SP farmers worst nighmare, taking breaks from farming, also taking breaks from GT.
I'd shoot myself
If i have to make a few extra trips to the den and waste time like that..im out! lol
TenKai wrote:rev6 is a joke
+9!
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:21 am
by Thrilla
I dont care that bots will hit cap a month before I do. I'll get there eventually. What does suck, is their ability to grind 24/7 and end up with all the end game uber weapons and gear. Hell, I'd grind for a month at 98% less exp per kill if it meant I got a hella drop eventually.

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:37 am
by Rockshmo
MrJoey wrote:Geee, the game is already designed for grind whores (no offense to anyone). Add that, and people will want to bot even more.
+1
They should do the exact opposite, make the grind easier while cracking down harder on bots. Of course it would only work if they kept up on banning botters.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:41 am
by timtam
XuChu wrote:even if this works im quite positive joymax will add something like exp limit remover except with fancier name like "talent" for a week 46 silks.
dont give them ideas
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:42 am
by XuChu
timtam wrote:XuChu wrote:even if this works im quite positive joymax will add something like exp limit remover except with fancier name like "talent" for a week 46 silks.
dont give them ideas
rofl trust me, joymax probably already considered this about 5months ago.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:23 am
by mushrooms
They can just have something to detect players that are leveling up too fast beyond what a person playing by hand can do in 12 hours. Obviously they would be using a bot if they are grinding for hours and hours without taking rests. Of course some might argue what about people that share their accounts to be lvled up by friends? Well, I think that is against the TOS to share account info.