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Haven't +4 any weapon yet
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:10 pm
by MaRcG
Hi guys, I had a lvl 64+0 that i +3ed but it wouldn't +4 i dont know why, i used like 40 wep elixirs cos i wanted to +4 but ithe damm weapons won't increase and only made +3.
Then the other weapon, glavie lvl 68, i +3 with 3 elixirs, tried to +4, it fail, +3 again in a coupple of tries, +4 failed. The rare thing was that it was very easy to +3 that weapon but it wouldn't go +4.
Is this normal?
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:20 pm
by Tygrah
Yes, unless your name is Deacon! ><
In the case of the 2nd glavie, then seeing it +3'd easy, you probably did the right thing trying for +4.
Trying a few elixirs too see if the item is lucky or not is a bit like calling someone in poker - you've got to pay if you want to see their cards! The only trouble is that in making +1 -> +3 you don't get as good a measure of the item's luckiness as you'd like due to the large amount of randomness involved.
(See also
this thread.)
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:42 pm
by LadyB
its rare. i spent 18 mil on like 80 weap elixirs trying to get my som shield to +7. and i finally got to +7 lol. no astrals
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:54 pm
by KYD
After you make couple of items +4 you know when and what items to plus
from +4 its become harder
+4 it's really piece of cake

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:56 pm
by Tygrah
LadyB wrote:its rare. i spent 18 mil on like 80 weap elixirs trying to get my som shield to +7. and i finally got to +7 lol. no astrals
Might have been easier to use shield elixirs on that!

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:57 pm
by ciddy
Tygrah wrote:LadyB wrote:its rare. i spent 18 mil on like 80 weap elixirs trying to get my som shield to +7. and i finally got to +7 lol. no astrals
Might have been easier to use shield elixirs on that!

lol i was thinking the same thing

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:57 pm
by LadyB
KYD wrote:After you make couple of items +4 you know when and what items to plus
from +4 its become harder
+4 it's really piece of cake

seriously. once your past +4, you will notice how easy +4 is

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:03 am
by s0017
LadyB wrote:its rare. i spent 18 mil on like 80 weap elixirs trying to get my som shield to +7. and i finally got to +7 lol. no astrals
Maybe you spent all that money on the wrong elixer.

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:14 am
by sk8ter
s0017 wrote:LadyB wrote:its rare. i spent 18 mil on like 80 weap elixirs trying to get my som shield to +7. and i finally got to +7 lol. no astrals
Maybe you spent all that money on the wrong elixer.

lol...

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:02 am
by Rockshmo
I can't even get my 4d shield to +3.. everytime +1 ok +2 fail/ok +3 always fail.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:17 am
by Manowar
LadyB wrote:KYD wrote:After you make couple of items +4 you know when and what items to plus
from +4 its become harder
+4 it's really piece of cake

seriously. once your past +4, you will notice how easy +4 is

+1. I noticed after i +4d a lvl 64 blade i managed to get +4 on 4 garm items and a ring.
But yea its pretty normal to blow 40+ elixers on +4ing a wep, which is how much i blew trying to +4 my sos sword. Though if u ask me u might have better luck on another wep.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:23 am
by lexies2
I can never get anything pass +5

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:31 am
by Bakemaster
My level 42 INT 3 spear (way back before the alchemy update when that was hot stuff and we couldn't see damage/reinforce percentages) took 31 elixirs to +3. So y'all best stop with the complaining.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:53 am
by Silver
i haven't made a successful +3 yet. but then again i don't try so meh
& yes, that's normal..

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:40 am
by LadyB
sk8ter wrote:s0017 wrote:LadyB wrote:its rare. i spent 18 mil on like 80 weap elixirs trying to get my som shield to +7. and i finally got to +7 lol. no astrals
Maybe you spent all that money on the wrong elixer.

lol...

oops i meant shield
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:38 am
by timtam
+4 isnt that hard...
but i once had a sos spear that wouldnt go +2 >_>
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:57 am
by Susanoo
I have done +5 several times, but I haven't tried +7 yet. I'll try a shield soon if I find one with a 18-20 br or so

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:16 am
by MaRcG
Susanoo wrote:I have done +5 several times, but I haven't tried +7 yet. I'll try a shield soon if I find one with a 18-20 br or so

w/ or w/o astral?
Lets say i want my final glavie 72 be +7 but i wont use astrals, any possibility? Or i could just make lvl 72 weapons +3/+4 sell them and buy a +7...

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:06 am
by Deacon
Tygrah wrote:Yes, unless your name is Deacon! ><
What does that has to do with me

Ur just jealous on me! xD
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:54 pm
by justaskphil
you can usually tell if a weapon is going to be difficult or not to get to +5 and beyond...if I can't get from 3 - 4 in 3 tries, that's as far as I go. Throw in the towel...get it back to +3 and sell it. (SOS stuff, see below paragraph) You can be stubborn and buy a bunch of elixirs to make it happen, but you're probably better off to save the cash, sell item to recoup elixir cost, and use it to buy another weap to ++.
Even though each item has its own level of 'lucky' for alchemy and endurability success, you should find a friend that has a good 'lucky' level (i.e. success with +++) - let them take that item for a spin and see what happens. It works well with sos stuff to let someone that's more lucky than you try to +++ it for you. I normally have a lot better success with stones than the ++ so I try to let someone else ++ my stuff and I try to add stones for them

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:13 pm
by imporkchop
i believe each item has their probabliity of succes rate in + and alchemy. If it keeps failin chance are that the weapon is unlucky.
I +3 my weapon in 1 try. then i waited and +4 it in another try. then i got luck stone and +5 it in a few days.
the blues were all done in 1-2 tries.
but i had a weapon that i spent 20mil tryin to add blue wih no luck and i end up sellin / breakin it
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:24 pm
by LuCiDiTy
I made a 72 spear and a 68 sword +5 today >.> .Sometimes you are lucky sometimes you even fail +3/4.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:28 pm
by MaRcG
well im the unlukiest person uve ever seen, do u know the lvl 68 glavie +3 i made? Well i sold it to the npc by accident.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:31 pm
by brentonsbbe359
yea i tryed getting my lvl 16 sos sheild +3 it worked but i had one sheild elxir left...................i tryed it failed

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:49 pm
by LuCiDiTy
MaRcG wrote:well im the unlukiest person uve ever seen, do u know the lvl 68 glavie +3 i made? Well i sold it to the npc by accident.
ouch >.<