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rev6 team ... and silkroadonline security ?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:29 pm
by rbc3883
I find the fact they turned into an anti-bot team good but ...
Don't you think their way of reversing packets is a little ... scaring ??
They know our lvls, if we are partying ... well any packets that are sent.
What do you think of it ? Wil JM do something against botters with rev6, or will JM be scared to death and have to think about its security ?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:31 pm
by BlackFox
is enough is allready 1++++ threads...about this
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:37 pm
by Scippy
rev6 is just bullshitting coz their new version of their bot is not for free and they keep it as a secret from JM with that antibotting topic
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:42 pm
by REASONS
Scippy wrote:rev6 is just bullshitting coz their new version of their bot is not for free and they keep it as a secret from JM with that antibotting topic
and how do u know that?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:43 pm
by Nave47
Scippy wrote:rev6 is just bullshitting coz their new version of their bot is not for free and they keep it as a secret from JM with that antibotting topic
sshhhhh...
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:01 pm
by DarkJackal
BlackFox wrote:is enough is allready 1++++ threads...about this
Wutcha care so much about talking about rev6 for, fox? hmm lol.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:02 pm
by Priam
im still inbetween opinions about this.. I mean.. they had a very fast change of heart.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:07 pm
by _.-JaCk-._
they got paid to change their minds... money will do that to people.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:08 pm
by Priam
_.-JaCk-._ wrote:they got paid to change their minds... money will do that to people.
True but you know like with criminals irl, once an offender, always and offender.
I can't believe they will entirely let there bot projects go.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:11 pm
by BlackFox
DarkJackal wrote:BlackFox wrote:is enough is allready 1++++ threads...about this
Wutcha care so much about talking about rev6 for, fox? hmm lol.
No lol but is allready meny threads about same thing . Here you have "example" HB weasels fight whit extreme DJ weasels and be 3-4 threads about it ..upsss lol
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:13 pm
by DarkJackal
Thats not always true lol, "once a criminal always a criminal" >.>.
These threads are the first I have even heard of rev6 >.>, so they made the bot, now try to catch botters? lol.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:15 pm
by Priam
DarkJackal wrote:Thats not always true lol, "once a criminal always a criminal" >.>.
These threads are the first I have even heard of rev6 >.>, so they made the bot, now try to catch botters? lol.
There's always an exception to find.
And yer.. i think it's kinda weird as well.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:20 pm
by BlackFox
DarkJackal wrote:Thats not always true lol, "once a criminal always a criminal" >.>.
These threads are the first I have even heard of rev6 >.>, so they made the bot, now try to catch botters? lol.
Nope not true at all you have wrong there...EX.DJ<--->WL oh yeah. lol
I dont know...But anyway is to meny threads about it.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:24 pm
by Alfred
I doubt JoyMax looks at what they do with happy thoughts.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:30 pm
by Zypher
I'm lookin' for a dime that's top of the line
Cute face slim waist with a big behind
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:34 pm
by FireJammerXR
Zypher wrote:I'm lookin' for a dime that's top of the line
Cute face slim waist with a big behind
I can be that man.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:35 pm
by Zypher
FireJammerXR wrote:Zypher wrote:I'm lookin' for a dime that's top of the line
Cute face slim waist with a big behind
I can be that man.
pics or it never happened
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:36 pm
by satman83
man...so Brad Pitt is gay then is he???
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:59 pm
by Zypher
yes, brad pitt is gay.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:10 pm
by Doppleganger
I find the fact they turned into an anti-bot team good but ...
Don't you think their way of reversing packets is a little ... scaring ??
They know our lvls, if we are partying ... well any packets that are sent.
What do you think of it ? Wil JM do something against botters with rev6, or will JM be scared to death and have to think about its security ?
There is no true reason for them to have that information. They shouldnt have any business with it at all.
The only people that should have that information is joymax and joymax only period.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:19 pm
by xmat
What information you are talking about ? :o
Reversing Packets ? WTF ...
They only know lvls from Adding to Party and From items which ppl are wearing...
So what to afraid about ?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:30 pm
by Maxen
I have been told of a certain sea snake which has a very unusual method of attracting it's prey.... it will lie at the bottom of the ocean as if wounded… then it's enemies will approach and yet it will lie quite still....and then it's enemies will take little bites of it and yet it remains still.........
Quote from gladiator....in other words do you truly believe that rev6 will give there all to end botting… without keeping a few secrets?...they're just in waiting before coming out with a counter measure to their own counter measures...
Who ever it may be feeding them with cash, they'll still play both fields you can count on that...greed conquers all
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:53 pm
by Ell
I seriously hope they have stopped because that would mean a ton of botters who didn't want to pay for isro bot would now have to hand grind it.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:26 pm
by LinkyParky
i think rev6 is using reverse engenering, they need using bot before they change into bot detection.
maybe they use the same bot as bot systeem but the reverse it, and look up for bot server... is actually same as bot..and is illegal also..there are chances they can know u account also...maybe..not sure..
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:57 pm
by borat2
Posted by NyMbLe on 10 March, 2007
SilkBabe log directory
P09BB0D00 SilkBabe.txt
P5E180E00 SilkBabe.txt
P78B20C00 SilkBabe.txt
PB8F40B00 SilkBabe.txt
PC8970E00 SilkBabe.txt
Those are the 5 packet log which prove that he does use isrobot.
Like isrobot forum claimed, we left a level 1 logging packet in hotan town but that bot logging packet was BEHIND the drugstore which is physically impossible to see or click on it when your in front of the drugstore.
06008030020003B8F40B0004 08/03/2007 2:07:58 AM
0600803002000378B20C0004 08/03/2007 3:54:13 AM
0600803002000309BB0D0004 08/03/2007 6:09:19 AM
060080300200035E180E0004 08/03/2007 6:54:48 AM
06008030020003C8970E0004 08/03/2007 7:52:40 AM
Those are 5 different time in GMT-5 timezone where you made (your isrobot) an impossible invite request with the bot.
Basically our level 1 appear on your screen so it appear in the player list of the bot.
If party not full your bot will try and send a party invitation.
Though we made our bot completely hidden so that:
#1- it's inside a tree which make it invisible to user who are looking.
#2- we do appear on radar but it physically impossible to click on us from in front of the drugstore.
Also in 24 hours, you teleported 23 times to town and that why you have 23 different log files. So you mean that this player is legit, play 24/7 i got a log of him in town each hours and leaving town, I didn't finished the walking packet waypoint analysis but it coming. Yet you claim yourself legit.
So somehow which i looked again at your walking packet, you where in front of drugstore, you never walking toward the back of the drugstore and where always in an impossible/unreachable distance to send a party request because you couldn't physically click on our logging packet bot.
As for those claiming isrobot will encrypt there packet, we aren't listening to isrobot packet so they can claim they can encrypt it, but that physically impossible.
We are listening to silkroad packet and detecting isrobot from those packet. So isrobot can't encrypt silkroad packet.
isrobot can make there walking packet more random to make it more hard to detect. They can also reduce the distance to send an autoparty, they can even implement using the new auto party used by silkroad by adding itself to the party list.
Our aim is to prove all high level are using isrobot and we will finish our proof by next weekend most likely.
First packet in packet text file:
"PB8F40B00 SilkBabe.txt"
08/03/2007 2:07 AM
At that time SilkBabe looked like this:
8A070000=[1930 CHAR_CH_WOMAN_NOBLEGIRL]
0800 53696C6B42616265=PlayerName 8 characters =[SilkBabe]
10=[Player description height, weight]
00
37=Inventory space = 0x37= 55 Spaces
08=[He got 8 items on him]
19060000 00 [1561 ITEM_CH_W_CLOTHES_05_HA_C lvl41]
85060000 00 [1669 ITEM_CH_W_CLOTHES_05_BA_C lvl43]
62060000 00 [1634 ITEM_CH_W_CLOTHES_06_SA_A lvl43]
CE060000 00 [1742 ITEM_CH_W_CLOTHES_06_AA_A 42]
A9060000 00 [1705 ITEM_CH_W_CLOTHES_05_LA_C lvl42]
F2060000 02 [1778 ITEM_CH_W_CLOTHES_06_FA_A lvl44]+02=magic
56000000 00 [86 ITEM_CH_SWORD_06_A lvl42]
0A010000 00 [266 ITEM_CH_SHIELD_06_A lvl42]
00 [End of item on player]
B8F40B00=[PlayerID used to make action on this object from now on]
Position of player on map when appearing
+ a vector if he's walking somewhere or
fixed position if he's idle not moving.
875C5C377844604974437329A0436061
MiniMap=135x92.jpg<--in revbot minimap
(x,y) coordinate on silkroad map
(102.10, 31.56)
01 01 875CBC02F4005202 01
Moving toward:
MiniMap=135x92.jpg
(x,y)=(70.0, 59.4)
0300
9A999941
00007042
0000C842
0000 00 00 00 00
2102
00
0000
0900 546865456D70697265=GuildName=TheEmpire
1C00
0000
0000
0000
0000
0400
0000 = Stall name string = null
0000
0000
0004
That how we read a packet line.
This is for the spawning player.
There is more for the walking packet.
Also for the invite party etc.
Yet 2 days later he is level 46 by playing 24/7 since that time, but he's not a bot, everyone here play 24/7 and has no life and has nothing to do on Wednesday-Thursday-Friday obviously.
I guess people are right I'm just a fat liar.
SilkBabe and all the other high level finding a hidden player and inviting him in a party from an unreachable position instead of just using the new silkroad party technology was just one hell of a big coincidence is it...
If Joymax tech team get to read this.
Fell free to contact us.
I hope you understand that we are writing
this publicly because there is better
method of blocking packet bot that can
be implemented in 1 day and are
really powerful.
Just like the mass ban of 4k bot but this time instead of just clientless bot.
nubot, revbot and isrobot = mass ban.
I believe you can figure out a good method.
Though we have a really good method that we won't give away unless we get a proof that the person contacting us is Joymax.
SilkBabe and all the other isrobot user.
Fell free to complain though we won't let it pass like if you didn't say anything.
We do this because we love you. wink
So back to main subject
"silkbabe : yer there is , 1. when he bots him self and gives it in his forum and 2. wen he acuses me of botting me and babez are the only liget 42+ so go ..... your mum"
I guess this packet description can prove to you that this isn't just someone reporting you, but you/him who sent a bad packet.
very very very interesting stuff.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:39 pm
by ping_lo
Honestly any of you that are scared of this stuff best unplug your internet. They are not doing anything extraordinary. Simply put they have figured out the meaning of some of the basic packet traffic. The client-less bots would have even greater understanding of the packet traffic as they are basically 3rd party written non 3d clients. Think about it when you are in town your client needs to know what characters to draw. When it draws the characters it needs to know what type of equipment to draw them with. Not only that but if you were to ever PVP it needs to know the stats of the gear specifically so it can calculate damage given and recieved. That is all basic logic. And if you know what to look for it is all in the data stream.
Using that knowledge it should be possible, nah make that trivial to detect characters stopping at bot waypoints. Or doing bot like things like sending party invites to people they should not be able to. Joymax could do it better simply by logging general player traffic and looking for patters. Technically it is simple. Logistically though it is not. To do it right would require significant modification of the game. Further all that data would be useless without someone to sift through it all and make sense of it. Sure some would be obvious. But not all.
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:44 pm
by satman83
borat2 wrote:Posted by NyMbLe on 10 March, 2007
SilkBabe log directory
P09BB0D00 SilkBabe.txt
P5E180E00 SilkBabe.txt
P78B20C00 SilkBabe.txt
PB8F40B00 SilkBabe.txt
PC8970E00 SilkBabe.txt
Those are the 5 packet log which prove that he does use isrobot.
Like isrobot forum claimed, we left a level 1 logging packet in hotan town but that bot logging packet was BEHIND the drugstore which is physically impossible to see or click on it when your in front of the drugstore.
06008030020003B8F40B0004 08/03/2007 2:07:58 AM
0600803002000378B20C0004 08/03/2007 3:54:13 AM
0600803002000309BB0D0004 08/03/2007 6:09:19 AM
060080300200035E180E0004 08/03/2007 6:54:48 AM
06008030020003C8970E0004 08/03/2007 7:52:40 AM
Those are 5 different time in GMT-5 timezone where you made (your isrobot) an impossible invite request with the bot.
Basically our level 1 appear on your screen so it appear in the player list of the bot.
If party not full your bot will try and send a party invitation.
Though we made our bot completely hidden so that:
#1- it's inside a tree which make it invisible to user who are looking.
#2- we do appear on radar but it physically impossible to click on us from in front of the drugstore.
Also in 24 hours, you teleported 23 times to town and that why you have 23 different log files. So you mean that this player is legit, play 24/7 i got a log of him in town each hours and leaving town, I didn't finished the walking packet waypoint analysis but it coming. Yet you claim yourself legit.
So somehow which i looked again at your walking packet, you where in front of drugstore, you never walking toward the back of the drugstore and where always in an impossible/unreachable distance to send a party request because you couldn't physically click on our logging packet bot.
As for those claiming isrobot will encrypt there packet, we aren't listening to isrobot packet so they can claim they can encrypt it, but that physically impossible.
We are listening to silkroad packet and detecting isrobot from those packet. So isrobot can't encrypt silkroad packet.
isrobot can make there walking packet more random to make it more hard to detect. They can also reduce the distance to send an autoparty, they can even implement using the new auto party used by silkroad by adding itself to the party list.
Our aim is to prove all high level are using isrobot and we will finish our proof by next weekend most likely.
First packet in packet text file:
"PB8F40B00 SilkBabe.txt"
08/03/2007 2:07 AM
At that time SilkBabe looked like this:
8A070000=[1930 CHAR_CH_WOMAN_NOBLEGIRL]
0800 53696C6B42616265=PlayerName 8 characters =[SilkBabe]
10=[Player description height, weight]
00
37=Inventory space = 0x37= 55 Spaces
08=[He got 8 items on him]
19060000 00 [1561 ITEM_CH_W_CLOTHES_05_HA_C lvl41]
85060000 00 [1669 ITEM_CH_W_CLOTHES_05_BA_C lvl43]
62060000 00 [1634 ITEM_CH_W_CLOTHES_06_SA_A lvl43]
CE060000 00 [1742 ITEM_CH_W_CLOTHES_06_AA_A 42]
A9060000 00 [1705 ITEM_CH_W_CLOTHES_05_LA_C lvl42]
F2060000 02 [1778 ITEM_CH_W_CLOTHES_06_FA_A lvl44]+02=magic
56000000 00 [86 ITEM_CH_SWORD_06_A lvl42]
0A010000 00 [266 ITEM_CH_SHIELD_06_A lvl42]
00 [End of item on player]
B8F40B00=[PlayerID used to make action on this object from now on]
Position of player on map when appearing
+ a vector if he's walking somewhere or
fixed position if he's idle not moving.
875C5C377844604974437329A0436061
MiniMap=135x92.jpg<--in revbot minimap
(x,y) coordinate on silkroad map
(102.10, 31.56)
01 01 875CBC02F4005202 01
Moving toward:
MiniMap=135x92.jpg
(x,y)=(70.0, 59.4)
0300
9A999941
00007042
0000C842
0000 00 00 00 00
2102
00
0000
0900 546865456D70697265=GuildName=TheEmpire
1C00
0000
0000
0000
0000
0400
0000 = Stall name string = null
0000
0000
0004
That how we read a packet line.
This is for the spawning player.
There is more for the walking packet.
Also for the invite party etc.
Yet 2 days later he is level 46 by playing 24/7 since that time, but he's not a bot, everyone here play 24/7 and has no life and has nothing to do on Wednesday-Thursday-Friday obviously.
I guess people are right I'm just a fat liar.
SilkBabe and all the other high level finding a hidden player and inviting him in a party from an unreachable position instead of just using the new silkroad party technology was just one hell of a big coincidence is it...
If Joymax tech team get to read this.
Fell free to contact us.
I hope you understand that we are writing
this publicly because there is better
method of blocking packet bot that can
be implemented in 1 day and are
really powerful.
Just like the mass ban of 4k bot but this time instead of just clientless bot.
nubot, revbot and isrobot = mass ban.
I believe you can figure out a good method.
Though we have a really good method that we won't give away unless we get a proof that the person contacting us is Joymax.
SilkBabe and all the other isrobot user.
Fell free to complain though we won't let it pass like if you didn't say anything.
We do this because we love you. wink
So back to main subject
"silkbabe : yer there is , 1. when he bots him self and gives it in his forum and 2. wen he acuses me of botting me and babez are the only liget 42+ so go ..... your mum"
I guess this packet description can prove to you that this isn't just someone reporting you, but you/him who sent a bad packet.
very very very interesting stuff.
well at least i now have something for insomina
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:47 pm
by BlackFox
Can only say LMAO for this list , Is Only BS crap and BlahBlah ...
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:35 am
by borat2
BlackFox wrote:Can only say LMAO for this list , Is Only BS crap and BlahBlah ...
yes and your English is superb if this is bullshit
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:57 am
by BlackFox
@ borat2 LOL yea
I Think hackers have nice reading also see all the number and perhaps make own isrobot. ? But This list dont prove they bots anyway..But realy this sounds like a BS.. And is only info about stuff . But if this working someday so ok ...LOL
perhaps 100 years or so.