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pw recovery

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:43 pm
by LadyB
i was told that we can do pw recovery on our acc in sro. how do we do that? is there a way we can get our acc back with our acc and security answer?

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:44 pm
by social
click on lost password.. scroll down.

enter your id / email

on the next page enter the answer of your secret question

change pass

easy :)

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:46 pm
by LadyB
noooo...
not that. i want to know if there is a way to get our acc back without the email. just acc and security answer. cause i want my acc back!

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:47 pm
by Smix
this is what happens
hacker gets your id from you being an idiot
hacker gets your e-mail from you being an idiot
hacker enters your id and e-mail to get to secret question page
hacker prepares a dictionary attack or a research attack to try and guess your secret answer
if hacker is successfull he changes your password
then hacker changes your e-mail so you can not change your password
you = screwed
and after all this is done change "hacker" to "smart(but dosnt HAVE to be smart) person taking advantage of someone elses stupidity" and we are all done

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:50 pm
by Waisha
just curious. what's a dictionary attack?
if his secret question is like mothers maiden name. do they go to a russian phone catalog and check all female names?
^an example. i could have taken pet name as example too.










maybe i should have.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:51 pm
by LadyB
Smix wrote:this is what happens
hacker gets your id from you being an idiot
hacker gets your e-mail from you being an idiot
hacker enters your id and e-mail to get to secret question page
hacker prepares a dictionary attack or a research attack to try and guess your secret answer
if hacker is successfull he changes your password
then hacker changes your e-mail so you can not change your password
you = screwed
and after all this is done change "hacker" to "smart(but dosnt HAVE to be smart) person taking advantage of someone elses stupidity" and we are all done


wtf are you serious? your a shithead. i never gave any of my acc info away. your a douchebag, get a life. this forums are for helping people, your destroying it, get off and go suicide. gg

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:53 pm
by Smix
also you dont have to give out your account info there are people out there that are good at putting things toghether... all you have to do is talk to them and they can gather enough info to hi-jack your account... so be carefull what you say and to whom you say it because you never know what someone is gathering from your conversation...

and a dictionary attack is what you said they look through a dictionary for words that would match the secret question... or research for words that would match the secret question

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:54 pm
by REASONS
Smix wrote:
LadyB wrote:
Smix wrote:this is what happens
hacker gets your id from you being an idiot
hacker gets your e-mail from you being an idiot
hacker enters your id and e-mail to get to secret question page
hacker prepares a dictionary attack or a research attack to try and guess your secret answer
if hacker is successfull he changes your password
then hacker changes your e-mail so you can not change your password
you = screwed
and after all this is done change "hacker" to "smart(but dosnt HAVE to be smart) person taking advantage of someone elses stupidity" and we are all done


wtf are you serious? your a shithead. i never gave any of my acc info away. your a douchebag, get a life. this forums are for helping people, your destroying it, get off and go suicide. gg

k if you didnt give out your acc info you downloaded a keylogger of some sort


+1

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:54 pm
by LadyB
Smix wrote:
LadyB wrote:
Smix wrote:this is what happens
hacker gets your id from you being an idiot
hacker gets your e-mail from you being an idiot
hacker enters your id and e-mail to get to secret question page
hacker prepares a dictionary attack or a research attack to try and guess your secret answer
if hacker is successfull he changes your password
then hacker changes your e-mail so you can not change your password
you = screwed
and after all this is done change "hacker" to "smart(but dosnt HAVE to be smart) person taking advantage of someone elses stupidity" and we are all done


wtf are you serious? your a shithead. i never gave any of my acc info away. your a douchebag, get a life. this forums are for helping people, your destroying it, get off and go suicide. gg

k if you didnt give out your acc info you downloaded a keylogger of some sort


thats better than calling me an idiot. but i didnt download a keylogger, my antivirus would have detected it.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:55 pm
by REASONS
LadyB wrote:
Smix wrote:
LadyB wrote:
Smix wrote:this is what happens
hacker gets your id from you being an idiot
hacker gets your e-mail from you being an idiot
hacker enters your id and e-mail to get to secret question page
hacker prepares a dictionary attack or a research attack to try and guess your secret answer
if hacker is successfull he changes your password
then hacker changes your e-mail so you can not change your password
you = screwed
and after all this is done change "hacker" to "smart(but dosnt HAVE to be smart) person taking advantage of someone elses stupidity" and we are all done


wtf are you serious? your a shithead. i never gave any of my acc info away. your a douchebag, get a life. this forums are for helping people, your destroying it, get off and go suicide. gg

k if you didnt give out your acc info you downloaded a keylogger of some sort


thats better than calling me an idiot. but i didnt download a keylogger, my antivirus would have detected it.


antivirus dont detect keyloggers
they are considered spyware

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:58 pm
by LadyB
REASONS wrote:
LadyB wrote:
Smix wrote:
LadyB wrote:
Smix wrote:this is what happens
hacker gets your id from you being an idiot
hacker gets your e-mail from you being an idiot
hacker enters your id and e-mail to get to secret question page
hacker prepares a dictionary attack or a research attack to try and guess your secret answer
if hacker is successfull he changes your password
then hacker changes your e-mail so you can not change your password
you = screwed
and after all this is done change "hacker" to "smart(but dosnt HAVE to be smart) person taking advantage of someone elses stupidity" and we are all done


wtf are you serious? your a shithead. i never gave any of my acc info away. your a douchebag, get a life. this forums are for helping people, your destroying it, get off and go suicide. gg

k if you didnt give out your acc info you downloaded a keylogger of some sort


thats better than calling me an idiot. but i didnt download a keylogger, my antivirus would have detected it.


antivirus dont detect keyloggers
they are considered spyware


not if you have nod32. its a antivirus, spyware detector and alot more that detects threats

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:58 pm
by Smix
Smix wrote:
also you dont have to give out your account info there are people out there that are good at putting things toghether... all you have to do is talk to them and they can gather enough info to hi-jack your account... so be carefull what you say and to whom you say it because you never know what someone is gathering from your conversation...

and a dictionary attack is what you said they look through a dictionary for words that would match the secret question... or research for words that would match the secret question

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:02 pm
by LadyB
Smix wrote:
Smix wrote:
also you dont have to give out your account info there are people out there that are good at putting things toghether... all you have to do is talk to them and they can gather enough info to hi-jack your account... so be carefull what you say and to whom you say it because you never know what someone is gathering from your conversation...

and a dictionary attack is what you said they look through a dictionary for words that would match the secret question... or research for words that would match the secret question


what the heck?

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:02 pm
by REASONS
its possible for professional programmers to program their own trojans which are undetectable by any antivirus/spyware programs

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:05 pm
by LadyB
REASONS wrote:its possible for professional programmers to program their own trojans which are undetectable by any antivirus/spyware programs


im able to do those things. but i dont know anyone else that can :?

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:06 pm
by Smix
LadyB wrote:
Smix wrote:
Smix wrote:
also you dont have to give out your account info there are people out there that are good at putting things toghether... all you have to do is talk to them and they can gather enough info to hi-jack your account... so be carefull what you say and to whom you say it because you never know what someone is gathering from your conversation...

and a dictionary attack is what you said they look through a dictionary for words that would match the secret question... or research for words that would match the secret question


what the heck?

take poker players for example... people say poker players never forget hands that are important to them so next time they are playing that person they know how the acted on that last hand and can make decisions from their previous experiences... same thing with these "info hackers"they probe you for information over long periods of time and put toghether the peices that THEY think are usefull to them to guess account id's and passwords... ive actually had these people come up to me and try to "probe" me for information but i knew what they were trying to do because they obviously wernt very good at it...

but the ones who ARE good at this kind of things are usually people who are very close to you in game and have known you for a long time... so i cant stress this enough BE CAREFULL WHAT YOU SAY ONLINE BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT SOMEONE IS GATHERING FROM YOUR CONVERSATION

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:08 pm
by REASONS
LadyB wrote:
REASONS wrote:its possible for professional programmers to program their own trojans which are undetectable by any antivirus/spyware programs


im able to do those things. but i dont know anyone else that can :?


a lot of people like merlin, & the people that worked with bot cracking, <-- u see where im getting here? (i forgot their site)

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:08 pm
by LadyB
Smix wrote:
LadyB wrote:
Smix wrote:
Smix wrote:
also you dont have to give out your account info there are people out there that are good at putting things toghether... all you have to do is talk to them and they can gather enough info to hi-jack your account... so be carefull what you say and to whom you say it because you never know what someone is gathering from your conversation...

and a dictionary attack is what you said they look through a dictionary for words that would match the secret question... or research for words that would match the secret question


what the heck?

take poker players for example... people say poker players never forget hands that are important to them so next time they are playing that person they know how the acted on that last hand and can make decisions from their previous experiences... same thing with these "info hackers"they probe you for information over long periods of time and put toghether the peices that THEY think are usefull to them to guess account id's and passwords... ive actually had these people come up to me and try to "probe" me for information but i knew what they were trying to do because they obviously wernt very good at it...

but the ones who ARE good at this kind of things are usually people who are very close to you in game and have known you for a long time... so i cant stress this enough BE CAREFULL WHAT YOU SAY ONLINE BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT SOMEONE IS GATHERING FROM YOUR CONVERSATION


i was pretty much soloing. guildless since level 1 till a few days before i got hacked.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:11 pm
by Smix
LadyB wrote:
Smix wrote:
LadyB wrote:
Smix wrote:
Smix wrote:
also you dont have to give out your account info there are people out there that are good at putting things toghether... all you have to do is talk to them and they can gather enough info to hi-jack your account... so be carefull what you say and to whom you say it because you never know what someone is gathering from your conversation...

and a dictionary attack is what you said they look through a dictionary for words that would match the secret question... or research for words that would match the secret question


what the heck?

take poker players for example... people say poker players never forget hands that are important to them so next time they are playing that person they know how the acted on that last hand and can make decisions from their previous experiences... same thing with these "info hackers"they probe you for information over long periods of time and put toghether the peices that THEY think are usefull to them to guess account id's and passwords... ive actually had these people come up to me and try to "probe" me for information but i knew what they were trying to do because they obviously wernt very good at it...

but the ones who ARE good at this kind of things are usually people who are very close to you in game and have known you for a long time... so i cant stress this enough BE CAREFULL WHAT YOU SAY ONLINE BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT SOMEONE IS GATHERING FROM YOUR CONVERSATION


i was pretty much soloing. guildless since level 1 till a few days before i got hacked.

k well you dont have to tell me these things im just saying you didnt get hacked because people DO NOT get hacked in silkroad... it is your own fault and that is why joymax will not recover "hacked" accounts because it is not JOYMAX'S fault


so to answer your first question... no there is no way you can get your account back... if i were you id just look for it on e-bay and try to "scam" it back... get the sellers e-mail and enter that on the secret question page and change the e-mail

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:12 pm
by LadyB
Smix wrote:
LadyB wrote:
Smix wrote:
LadyB wrote:
Smix wrote:
Smix wrote:
also you dont have to give out your account info there are people out there that are good at putting things toghether... all you have to do is talk to them and they can gather enough info to hi-jack your account... so be carefull what you say and to whom you say it because you never know what someone is gathering from your conversation...

and a dictionary attack is what you said they look through a dictionary for words that would match the secret question... or research for words that would match the secret question


what the heck?

take poker players for example... people say poker players never forget hands that are important to them so next time they are playing that person they know how the acted on that last hand and can make decisions from their previous experiences... same thing with these "info hackers"they probe you for information over long periods of time and put toghether the peices that THEY think are usefull to them to guess account id's and passwords... ive actually had these people come up to me and try to "probe" me for information but i knew what they were trying to do because they obviously wernt very good at it...

but the ones who ARE good at this kind of things are usually people who are very close to you in game and have known you for a long time... so i cant stress this enough BE CAREFULL WHAT YOU SAY ONLINE BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT SOMEONE IS GATHERING FROM YOUR CONVERSATION


i was pretty much soloing. guildless since level 1 till a few days before i got hacked.

k well you dont have to tell me these things im just saying you didnt get hacked because people DO NOT get hacked in silkroad... it is your own fault and that is why joymax will not recover "hacked" accounts because it is not JOYMAX'S fault


so to answer your first question... no there is no way you can get your account back... if i were you id just look for it on e-bay and try to "scam" it back... get the sellers e-mail and enter that on the secret question page and change the e-mail


what if they arent selling the acc on ebay? and actually playing it? dude and its not my fault. how do i know if someone puts a keylogger on my comp. how do you know if someone puts a keylogger on your acc till its too late?

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:15 pm
by REASONS
if u think about it, people dont just put random keyloggers on your computer for no reason, i bet a lot of scammers dont even play sro

u obviously downloaded something specific (not like a poker game or music playing program) that compromised the security of your account

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:16 pm
by Smix
if they are playing it then thats even worse because joymax sure as hell iisnt going to do anything against an active account...

and people cant PUT keyloggers on your computer you have to download it yourself... or have a friend install one on your computer(that happened to me some idiot of a friend of mine downloaded some trojan from an msn conversation onto MY computer... lets just say HIS computer isnt doing to well after that little incident)

also im sorry, you may not want to accept it, or you may not believe it, but you loosing your account was almost 100% your own fault and no one elses...

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:17 pm
by REASONS
Smix wrote:if they are playing it then thats even worse because joymax sure as hell iisnt going to do anything against an active account...

and people cant PUT keyloggers on your computer you have to download it yourself... or have a friend install one on your computer(that happened to me some idiot of a friend of mine downloaded some trojan from an msn conversation onto MY computer... lets just say HIS computer isnt doing to well after that little incident)

also im sorry, you may not want to accept it, or you may not believe it, but you loosing your account was almost 100% your own fault and no one elses...


+999999999
my point exactly