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Glavie VS Blader : When Face to Face
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:05 pm
by Imnotnoob
When faced to face against a blader, same level as you are, what do u do?
Do you run away? Tank it out? That was the problem I had last night while thieving. I did manage to tank a couple of hits but the most annoying thing is their knockdown/ stab.
What are some tips to fight against bladers? What skills are really helpful against them?
Since my build is fire/lightning...what skills are useful?
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:18 pm
by oktaytheazer
well first i advise u watch pvp more. second the skills i often see peps useing in pvp are "Ghost spear-Prince, Ghost spear-Mars, Soul spear-Truth, and Soul spear-Soul" i think those are the once.
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:24 pm
by Jabo
wel... can i say you something??
Bladers: worst PvE, best PvP
Glaviers: same PvE as PvP
Archers: Best PvE, worst PvP
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:25 pm
by Vandango
Jabo wrote:Archers: Best PvE, worst PvP
thats nukers not archers

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:30 pm
by Waisha
Jabo wrote:wel... can i say you something??
Bladers: worst PvE, best PvP
Glaviers: same PvE as PvP
Archers: Best PvE, worst PvP
Hybrid int's: See glaivers. =)
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:38 pm
by PR0METHEUS
As a blader, I can say I LOVE knockdown. However, it isn't one of the quickest skills to carry out, especially the second book. It just seems a little slower than the first. Given that, you could use a skill to slow the blader down even more, like frostbite. Not sure if there's anything in the lightening tree similar to that.
I guess you could also carry a shield in your inventory, and if the blader begins a knockdown, swap to shield and hope for a block, and swap back to your glavie.
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:39 pm
by Fat_Smurf
Karlos Vandango wrote:Jabo wrote:Archers: Best PvE, worst PvP
thats nukers not archers

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lol?
dont know why but nuker running around a one hitting people aorund his lvl for 12k.... is kinda good at pvp...
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:43 pm
by Vandango
Fat_Smurf wrote:Karlos Vandango wrote:Jabo wrote:Archers: Best PvE, worst PvP
thats nukers not archers

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lol?
dont know why but nuker running around a one hitting people aorund his lvl for 12k.... is kinda good at pvp...
more like 3-5k fomr what ive seen
@70-80
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:44 pm
by EwwBabel
Fat_Smurf wrote:Karlos Vandango wrote:Jabo wrote:Archers: Best PvE, worst PvP
thats nukers not archers

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lol?
dont know why but nuker running around a one hitting people aorund his lvl for 12k.... is kinda good at pvp...
but considering the fact you have like 2k hp total and almsot anyone can 1 -2 hit you is kinda sad. bows/pure ints both bad pvp, blader can tank, they do not do enough damage to kill you (glavie) unless zerk or really strong blade, so tell him go away

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:51 pm
by Dempster
Jabo wrote:wel... can i say you something??
Bladers: worst PvE, best PvP
Glaviers: same PvE as PvP
Archers: Best PvE, worst PvP
you are generalizing far, FAR too much.
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:53 pm
by Dempster
Know what, if you guys think a pure int is worste pvp build, im not even going to try to prove you wrong.. because that is just so .... so very far from the truth.

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:53 pm
by Jabo
Dempster wrote:Jabo wrote:wel... can i say you something??
Bladers: worst PvE, best PvP
Glaviers: same PvE as PvP
Archers: Best PvE, worst PvP
you are generalizing far, FAR too much.
ya i know... but all same lvl, with same skills levels, same amount of skills, same wep lvl, bladers wins archers and glavies, archers will loose, and glaviers will win archers but loose vs bladers
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:54 pm
by EwwBabel
Jabo wrote:Dempster wrote:Jabo wrote:wel... can i say you something??
Bladers: worst PvE, best PvP
Glaviers: same PvE as PvP
Archers: Best PvE, worst PvP
you are generalizing far, FAR too much.
ya i know... but all same lvl, with same skills levels, same amount of skills, same wep lvl, bladers wins archers and glavies, archers will loose, and glaviers will win archers but loose vs bladers
give me a call when a blader can kill someone o.O
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:09 pm
by Jabo
do i need to call you now? but you pay, because im in argentina...
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:13 pm
by Ryaela
Pray he runs out of pots first? Hope for back-to-back crits with soul spear and ghost? It's a pretty long fight usually, winner depends on gear and how well farmed you are. Mostly gear. You say you're fire/lightning, I'm curious about the lightning bit. Only lightning my glaiver uses is grass walk.
Last fight with a blader was vs Atreyu, 52 vs 53, we realized it was a pot fight after like 7 mins and called it a draw, even though he had a slight edge from crit'ing all the damn time <_<

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:46 pm
by DarkLaw
Hybrid Int Spear
Bit Boring PvE
Best PvP
Re: Glavie VS Blader : When Face to Face
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:01 pm
by justaskphil
Imnotnoob wrote:When faced to face against a blader, same level as you are, what do u do?
Do you run away? Tank it out? That was the problem I had last night while thieving. I did manage to tank a couple of hits but the most annoying thing is their knockdown/ stab.
What are some tips to fight against bladers? What skills are really helpful against them?
Since my build is fire/lightning...what skills are useful?
It's a pot fight....stay/fight and waste pots, knowing that you're better off moving on...or bring a friend and double him up.

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:05 pm
by phresh
53 Archer and no one my level has a chance against me. It's all about the gear and weapon. If you're on redsea and between 52-59, up to 64 if you're int.. bring it.
Bladers -- hrm either wait for the crits or ignore them lol. they're hard to kill but they also have a hard time killing a pure str their level - so just walk away =]
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:12 pm
by Corrupt
Run away and go find a bow/spear/sword player that's alone. Then once you kill them if they decide to stand their ground you can call them a noob, maybe some other names, act like you're all good for killing builds better for huge fights when your build focuses more on 1v1.

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:12 pm
by cool2fool
EwwBabel wrote:Jabo wrote:Dempster wrote:Jabo wrote:wel... can i say you something??
Bladers: worst PvE, best PvP
Glaviers: same PvE as PvP
Archers: Best PvE, worst PvP
you are generalizing far, FAR too much.
ya i know... but all same lvl, with same skills levels, same amount of skills, same wep lvl, bladers wins archers and glavies, archers will loose, and glaviers will win archers but loose vs bladers
give me a call when a blader can kill someone o.O
I don't know your lvl but i guess 80....Yea i haven't seen blader lv. 80 kill someone at lv. 80 yet. Only me I killed some sword int 80.
at lv. 80 but you have to use 8th degree wapon is worst noone could kill each other. lv. 80 Int Spear can only do 5k damage on me and how much HP do we have????? 20k!!!!1 that take forever to kill. 5k then you pot really fast it go up to 18K quickly as they nuke. Glavier are the worst.....2k damge Lawl!!!!!
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:21 pm
by iGod
Glaivers don't suck at pve... we ks hybrid ints and 2-hit orange mobs.
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:22 pm
by Black_Mamba
You get exactly what you work for, blader takes longest to level and is the best at pvp but you have the lowest dmg, int nukers are worst at pvp but level much faster and do a lot more dmg. Nukers are better for back up's, go jobbing with a blader and let them tank while the int nukes, nobody will take down the two.
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:37 pm
by Jay
I've only lost to one blader my lvl, anyone else is above me, no other blader can kill me and I can't kill them, it's the way of life and that's how it's gonn be, lol. The only way I can beat a blader otherwise is if I get constant crits going and he doesn't KD me *not going to happen on both ways* but the only way for a blader to beat me is if he has a sosun blade though, but i've never battled anyone my lvl with a blade like that, lol.
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:40 pm
by Deadly EYez
90% of bladers around are bad.
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:41 pm
by StealMySoda
Dempster wrote:Know what, if you guys think a pure int is worste pvp build, im not even going to try to prove you wrong.. because that is just so .... so very far from the truth.

The only way a pure int same level as me could beat me in pvp is if he zerked me.
I can take one hit, which is enough time for me turn on my bloody fan. 2 skills and they are down, by which time they have usualy used there second nuke that does 1k at most.
Unless a nuker has full sosun set, they will easily be taken down by any str char.
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:41 pm
by Demarthl
hope for a crit on your hard hitting moves, soul spear soul, truth or something, then back it up with some quick attacks, chains, ghost spears, spirit crash or something.
keep an eye on their pot timing, if it starts going faster you;re getting closer to their doom

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:41 pm
by KyoReb0rn
EwwBabel wrote:Jabo wrote:Dempster wrote:Jabo wrote:wel... can i say you something??
Bladers: worst PvE, best PvP
Glaviers: same PvE as PvP
Archers: Best PvE, worst PvP
you are generalizing far, FAR too much.
ya i know... but all same lvl, with same skills levels, same amount of skills, same wep lvl, bladers wins archers and glavies, archers will loose, and glaviers will win archers but loose vs bladers
give me a call when a blader can kill someone o.O
your number??
cuz i think you've just seen some lowbie bladers
they can only do 1 stab, obviously wont kill a 4k hp glavier, but later on at high level, blader can do 3 stabs >.>
its deadly lol
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:49 pm
by social
blader can't kill that that good at 80.. even a nuker with decent gear can think it at 80/90.. and blader can't ever kill a glavier!
and bowers are one of the best at lvl 80/90.. They are sukky at 70 but check their crits out at the real cap...
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:21 pm
by PureOwnage
ROFL @ Cool. Are you sure you can back up your 2k glaiver hit @ lvl 80? Cuz ive seen plenty of glaivers fight bladers both lvl 80 on xian, and the glaivers do alot more than 2k so, either your A.) A noob who watches weak chars. or 2.) You are just bsing and never seen a lvl 80 blader vs lvl 80 glaiver. Nuff said.

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:42 pm
by iGod
KyoReb0rn wrote:EwwBabel wrote:Jabo wrote:Dempster wrote:Jabo wrote:wel... can i say you something??
Bladers: worst PvE, best PvP
Glaviers: same PvE as PvP
Archers: Best PvE, worst PvP
you are generalizing far, FAR too much.
ya i know... but all same lvl, with same skills levels, same amount of skills, same wep lvl, bladers wins archers and glavies, archers will loose, and glaviers will win archers but loose vs bladers
give me a call when a blader can kill someone o.O
your number??
cuz i think you've just seen some lowbie bladers
they can only do 1 stab, obviously wont kill a 4k hp glavier, but later on at high level, blader can do 3 stabs >.>
its deadly lol
Can do and can have are two different things, damn I'd celebrate if i could do 1 stab cuz of all the lag
