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Full STR and sword is stronger.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:36 am
by MrFudge
howcome when a full STR uses a sword they are stronger than when they use a blade?
shouldnt blade be the STR weapon and therefore be stronger than when using a sword? lol sro is farked up- whats the point of having a blade.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:40 am
by Manowar
Sword isnt stronger than blade for a pure str build. Blades have higher phy dmg/reinforce than a sword would and swords have higher mag dmg/reinforce than a blade, making them better for int heavy builds. Though i was using a sword for a bit because sos +3/+4 is better than a +5 blade.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:43 am
by WrEcK
whered you get that idea from? (referring to topic creator)
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:45 am
by MrFudge
um, from me being Full str and testing out both weapons and realizing i do more damage with sword...
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:49 am
by MrFudge
okay seriously you guys need to answer this.
i used both NPC sword and blade lvl 32- i still dont understand why sword is stronger than blade for full STR.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:49 am
by Xanovaria
Mr Fudge : You must have a bit of int.
Phy. Atk = [Phy. attack power + (Str stat * Phy. Reinforce)] * [1 + weapon mastery/100]
Mag. Atk = [Mag. attack power + (Int stat * Mag. Reinforce)]
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:51 am
by MrFudge
nope sword is still stronger for full STR, sry
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:51 am
by MrFudge
could it possible be because of the imbue?
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:53 am
by IguanaRampage
Xanovaria wrote:Mr Fudge : You must have a bit of int.
Phy. Atk = [Phy. attack power + (Str stat * Phy. Reinforce)] * [1 + weapon mastery/100]
Mag. Atk = [Mag. attack power + (Int stat * Mag. Reinforce)]
yes. Agreed. Have u tried using high % phys atks and testing it out??
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:55 am
by MrFudge
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:03 am
by aznkrazykid
lets start with what lvl you are. If you arent high lvl yet, your magic and phys balance will be closer to each other.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:04 am
by MrFudge
92% physical and 45% magical.
lvl 32
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:12 am
by [SD]happynoobing
MrFudge wrote:92% physical and 45% magical.
lvl 32
i think you either put some points into int or have +int on weapons and equipments. im lvl31 pure str and i have ~33% magical balance. but still, sword shouldn't do more dmg than blade.
and also i remember having 92% phy balance when i was in the low 20's.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:18 am
by MrFudge
okay i redid my equipment , the ones that had int in them, and i have 92% and 35% respectively with str and int balances.
still more damage coming from sword with kd and stab and fire imbue
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:29 am
by MrFudge
lol okay you know what this doesnt even matter. i just think somethings wrong with this aspect of the game because my char is fine except for the fact that im full str and do more damage with a sword.
either way i restarted so i have a new char thats about to start farming so im done with STR anyway, all about the hybrid spear now.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:15 am
by [SD]Twysta
Your right.. I was about to post a topic to this.
I was gonna post, why not use a sword/spear instead of a blade/glaive as a full str character? They have more mag dmg so why the hell not?
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:22 am
by Loveis4ever
Twysta wrote:Your right.. I was about to post a topic to this.
I was gonna post, why not use a sword/spear instead of a blade/glaive as a full str character? They have more mag dmg so why the hell not?
but then again you're just lvl 4x and farming.
Thus all I can say is just "ROFLLMAOLOL!".
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:22 am
by borat2
Try the test again without any gear, only a weapon.
the gear (armor/rings/prots/garments) you got changes your damage
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:30 am
by butcha
Im sure Blade is stronger for FULL str!
and sword is stronger for FULL int!
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:00 pm
by Heaven_King
this is so simple to answer....
are you testing it on mobs??
if on a str based mob, then your surely gonna get higher damage on sword wich will increse you magic damage.
but now try it on pvp in a INT base char...
You gonna lose a good and fatal amount of your phy damage.
and get owned.
It all depends on the targets defences...
e=mc²
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:18 pm
by Jabo
but... isnt the imbue a magical attack?
because if it is, the sword will make much higher dammage than a blade, cause magical attack( imbue in this case)
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:24 pm
by blutrausch
this UBER DAMAGE will then be multiplied with the magical balance of a pure str char and the dam will be at 40%~ depending on +int gear
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:44 pm
by illumi
Xanovaria wrote:Phy. Atk = [Phy. attack power + (Str stat * Phy. Reinforce)] * [1 + weapon mastery/100]
Mag. Atk = [Mag. attack power + (Int stat * Mag. Reinforce)]
Wasnt it on the Main SRO site that reinforce only delt with how fast durability decreased on a weapon?
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:01 pm
by EllisD
illumi wrote:Xanovaria wrote:Phy. Atk = [Phy. attack power + (Str stat * Phy. Reinforce)] * [1 + weapon mastery/100]
Mag. Atk = [Mag. attack power + (Int stat * Mag. Reinforce)]
Wasnt it on the Main SRO site that reinforce only delt with how fast durability decreased on a weapon?
lol, just goes to show how much they know about their own game

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:46 pm
by PR0METHEUS
MrFudge wrote:okay seriously you guys need to answer this.
i used both NPC sword and blade lvl 32- i still dont understand why sword is stronger than blade for full STR.
I guess it (partly) depends on if you use mostly weapon skills or force skills in your attacks. I think you'd find that weapon skills would be better for str based weapons, and force better for int based weapons. I haven't tested that, but it makes sense to me. Try testing an npc blade and sword without using any skills and see which you do better damage with. Test using only weapon skills, test using only force skills.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:20 pm
by phresh
Sweet it's time to get some nukes!!
Why is hybrid spear a popular build? Seems retarded to me..
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:49 pm
by NuclearSilo
the answer is simple, u all care about the power of the weapon without caring about the defence of the opponent.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:04 pm
by PR0METHEUS
NuclearSilo wrote:the answer is simple, u all care about the power of the weapon without caring about the defence of the opponent.
That is also a very good point if you're testing on multiple types of opponents. However, if you're testing the power of 2 weapons, you should stick to the same opponent with the same defenses as each other. So opponent defenses don't exactly matter for the test.
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:28 am
by StealMySoda
To me it sounds like he is saying he is using blade without imbue. And Sword with, if this is the case, duh you are gonna do more dmg with sword.
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 5:11 am
by Jabo
so the imbue doesnt counts like magical attack then?
a little question:
ill be 1-1 Hybrid, what its better for me to use? sword or blade?