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Racial remarks....

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:59 am
by clarencekuna
so I decide to buy silk cause I need the GT and the revival clock (the pet was a gift from an old friend but that doesn't mean he'll sponsor me the clock). Lucky for me, in Malaysia you can buy the A-Cash Maple Story prepaid card and use it to buy silk, at any stores listed in the website.

there i was, walking into the bookstore (Popular Book Store in Malaysia: exact location, South City Plaza, Seri Kembangan). Asked the girl in counter for the card, beside me was a guy working at the store.

When I asked for the card, the guy said something to the girl in Chinese that is racist (said "this 'black ghost' plays the game too?" ,which was very rude, if you translate "black ghost" to Chinese.) I'm an Indian, and that remark was a known racist statement towards us.

and two, is it wrong for Indians to play games, or buy A-Cash cards for the game?

It's sad to see this kind of attitude in real life, and in the game too.....

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:07 am
by satman83
Well

am an India living and born in London....racsim been a big part of my
life...just ignore peopel like that. Their losers compensating for their
own low self-esteam.

:D

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:12 am
by clarencekuna
yeah it's part of life i guess

the other thing I don't get it is that the Chinese here, at least most of them, thinks that MMORPG is "their game" and to see people like me playing it and own them, as a taboo.....hence comes the remarks. that's why I hate going to cyber cafes and play there

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:15 am
by DarkJackal
You know what he said right then? did you say anything? o.o, I would of been pretty pissed in that kind of situation lol :x.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:17 am
by Demarthl
you should have just said "this black ghost will own your ass back to your home country"

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:18 am
by purified
<<edit: inappropriate. -SG>>

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:24 am
by satman83
Well

here in england most chavs (american verion of red neck/white trash
i guess).

are always the ones who buy fifa and pro evo and racing games, the
dirty shits act like its their right. and when you beat them at it. they get
super pissed off at you.

look mate dont worry to much about it...we indians are the global majority
i mean look at the worlds most spoken first languages

1=Hindi
2=Mandarin
3=Spanish
4=Russian
5=English

so the next time some asshole trys some racsit shit on kick his ass ok

:D

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:26 am
by Demarthl
chavs ain't the american version of rednecks or white trash.

chavs are justa group of kids wearing stupidkly priced clothes, smoking and drinking and picking fights with a person on their own or a smalelr group because they're a bunch of illiterate cowardly bastards.

i hate chavs >:|

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:30 am
by satman83
Well so do i....Farking sucm

hahaha
:D

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:33 am
by clarencekuna
DarkJackal wrote:You know what he said right then? did you say anything? o.o, I would of been pretty pissed in that kind of situation lol :x.


actually I almost punched the guy.....it was a big ruckus.

Re: Racial remarks....

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:35 am
by 4agze
clarencekuna wrote:so I decide to buy silk cause I need the GT and the revival clock (the pet was a gift from an old friend but that doesn't mean he'll sponsor me the clock). Lucky for me, in Malaysia you can buy the A-Cash Maple Story prepaid card and use it to buy silk, at any stores listed in the website.

there i was, walking into the bookstore (Popular Book Store in Malaysia: exact location, South City Plaza, Seri Kembangan). Asked the girl in counter for the card, beside me was a guy working at the store.

When I asked for the card, the guy said something to the girl in Chinese that is racist (said "this 'black ghost' plays the game too?" ,which was very rude, if you translate "black ghost" to Chinese.) I'm an Indian, and that remark was a known racist statement towards us.

and two, is it wrong for Indians to play games, or buy A-Cash cards for the game?

It's sad to see this kind of attitude in real life, and in the game too.....


that's not racist words, but it is common for chinese to use the terms which we speak among each others. i.e. black ghost is negros and not indians.

perhaps they seldom came across indians who play online games like chinese/malay does. so as for me i would have the first thought as the same way as the guy do...

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:39 am
by Demarthl
they could have used "this guy" instead of black ghost, its obvious they used it as a demaning racial remark.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:44 am
by satman83
Demarthl wrote:they could have used "this guy" instead of black ghost, its obvious they used it as a demaning racial remark.


noooo shit he was...i would of killed him...lol saying that i got kicked out
of school (year 8) for beating the shit out of someone who called me a
paki..lol he deserved it.

:D

Re: Racial remarks....

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:46 am
by clarencekuna
4agze wrote:
clarencekuna wrote:so I decide to buy silk cause I need the GT and the revival clock (the pet was a gift from an old friend but that doesn't mean he'll sponsor me the clock). Lucky for me, in Malaysia you can buy the A-Cash Maple Story prepaid card and use it to buy silk, at any stores listed in the website.

there i was, walking into the bookstore (Popular Book Store in Malaysia: exact location, South City Plaza, Seri Kembangan). Asked the girl in counter for the card, beside me was a guy working at the store.

When I asked for the card, the guy said something to the girl in Chinese that is racist (said "this 'black ghost' plays the game too?" ,which was very rude, if you translate "black ghost" to Chinese.) I'm an Indian, and that remark was a known racist statement towards us.

and two, is it wrong for Indians to play games, or buy A-Cash cards for the game?

It's sad to see this kind of attitude in real life, and in the game too.....


that's not racist words, but it is common for chinese to use the terms which we speak among each others. i.e. black ghost is negros and not indians.

perhaps they seldom came across indians who play online games like chinese/malay does. so as for me i would have the first thought as the same way as the guy do...



yeah but the least he could have done is say "this guy" instead of using rude remarks like that, and he should not have assumed that i don't understand Cantonese.

"hak kwai" has been used since my childhood years and everybody around knows it's a racist remark thrown at us Indians cause of our skin colour, even my Chinese friends said so.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:05 am
by 3t3rnal
well, it sux to live in a different country as a minority, but that's how the world works, every type of ppl has some type of term for another

i'm sure a chinese living in india, or watever w/ a majority of hindus may/will get some demeaning remarks 2

it's life, live & move on

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:19 am
by 4agze
what the guy meant "this guy" yes but in a unmannered form... well i never encounter any ppl calling indians hak kwai afaik...

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:35 am
by Adreanna
3t3rnal wrote:well, it sux to live in a different country as a minority, but that's how the world works, every type of ppl has some type of term for another

i'm sure a chinese living in india, or watever w/ a majority of hindus may/will get some demeaning remarks 2

it's life, live & move on


Actually No, because the similarity with Nepal's people and Chinese or any Oriental, is like 99%

They look similar as fuckin hell, and they are treated equally, can't speak for ALLLL the nepali's, but in majority, it works out as a pretty peaceful community, although i will say.


Indians are no less assholes when it comes to talking :P

And yes, i am one too haha.

born in newyork, lived in newyork my whole life, and no im not a girl.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:19 pm
by streetrobban
Just ignore the guy, go somewhere else to buy the A-Cash Card. Dont support his business :)

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:32 pm
by QuakeDisruptor
Just to add my two cents - chavs cannot be compared to any race or class as they are neither. Chavs choose to be chavs, they are not born like it.

If you do wish to draw a comparison, in the UK, Chavs generally represent the misguided youth 'culture' (used in the very loosest sense) of the working class, but can actually come from all walks of life.

In a similar way, the so called 'Goths' (although the term angers me as 'real' goths are a million miles away from your average teen emo wannabe) could be the representation of the middle class youth. However, your average goth kid will tell you that he is the opposite of what a chav is (the two factions hate each other) yet behave in completely the same manner. Hypocrites.

So, as neither party can be considered a class or race I feel perfectly comfortable to say that I hate 'em both. DIAF.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:40 pm
by Suppaman
Whoooooa hold up a second. im indian too.. wow.. maybe it was just that store and not the company. This world is always gonna be full of ignorant racist people not matter how bad racism is. Man, i would have caused a scene in there if i heard that (thats cuz im immature :P )

Aynways, don't buy cards from his place and flip him off(middle finger) if you ever see him again.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:34 pm
by Maxen
QuakeDisruptor wrote:Just to add my two cents - chavs cannot be compared to any race or class as they are neither. Chavs choose to be chavs, they are not born like it.

If you do wish to draw a comparison, in the UK, Chavs generally represent the misguided youth 'culture' (used in the very loosest sense) of the working class, but can actually come from all walks of life.

In a similar way, the so called 'Goths' (although the term angers me as 'real' goths are a million miles away from your average teen emo wannabe) could be the representation of the middle class youth. However, your average goth kid will tell you that he is the opposite of what a chav is (the two factions hate each other) yet behave in completely the same manner. Hypocrites.

So, as neither party can be considered a class or race I feel perfectly comfortable to say that I hate 'em both. DIAF.



Chavs choose to be chavs, they are not born like it.
and how do you think this so called "culture" began?

chav's were formed of not from "misguided youth" .

They are “now mostly” formed under choice and choose to join in this “culture”, but originally came from underprivileged families struggling to make “ends’ meat”.

Basic nature of all of us to defend what we come from, all be it they may have gone about this in a rather rash and balls’y way but they are what they are.

And to merely say all emos/goths are from mild class and chavs working class is complete bollocks and not to mention part of the inherent racial problem this thread is based on “judging people from what they see” and thus makes your argument floored from the get go.

having made documentaries on different cultures in today’s society (all be it amateur and for my own grades), your above statement is appalling and shows complete misunderstanding, interpretation and if fact racism itself.

next time keep personally opinion to your person. *rant over*

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:03 pm
by QuakeDisruptor
Sorry if I've offended you with my personal opinion. I certainly didn't intend to do so. However, I don't think my critique deserved such a hostile response. I certainly am not in a position of misunderstanding.

For starters, I am completely against racism or prejudice of any form, but my above philosophy was not inherently racist. A person does not choose the location of their birth or their initial social status or their sexuality. Because of this, nobody has the right to judge them based on these factors.

However, a person is not born a chav, a goth, a townie, a geek, etc. Thier personality may draw them to one particular lifestyle more than another, but ultimately you make a choice to lead the lifestyle you want based on your tastes, preferences and ideologies.

In the case of chavs and goths, I dislike them because they have conciously made such a choice. They are part of a scene or movement which represents a distinctive view on life, and their view from my perspective is arrogant and closed-minded to the point of ignorance.

I'm not criticising their taste in music or clothes, etc. (for example, I enjoy metal and am in fact quite partial to gothy-looking clothes) I'm criticising the way they treat others and their general disrespect.

Sure, I'm stereotyping, but I'm afraid that is based solely on experience. I can honestly say that I have only met a handful of people who fall into the 'chav' demographic that I could actually consider to be nice people. And yes, I have met several 'goth' teenagers who are respectful, polite members of society. On the whole though, I feel very sorry for the children and the elderly in my nearest city who walk in fear of the chavs and goths loitering around, vandalising and troublemaking.

So again, I apologise for any offence caused, particularly if you consider yourself a part of either lifestyle. However, I maintain my opinion based on the evidence I've seen and will continue to share it with anyone, regardless of whether it is considered controversial. In other words, no, I won't keep it to myself.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:34 pm
by ___1sHoT___
purified wrote:<<edit: inappropriate. -SG>>


..... ur signnature. <<edit: that's no better. he has been asked to change his sig. -SG>>

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:54 pm
by chickenfeather
Meh... whenever i speak chinese i refer to everyone by their race/country too... it's kinda built into the language to refer to "outsiders"(ie. non-chinese) by their respective descriptive term to distinguish between them.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:02 pm
by Dempster
satman83 wrote:Well

here in england most chavs (american verion of red neck/white trash
i guess).

are always the ones who buy fifa and pro evo and racing games, the
dirty shits act like its their right. and when you beat them at it. they get
super pissed off at you.

look mate dont worry to much about it...we indians are the global majority
i mean look at the worlds most spoken first languages

1=Hindi
2=Mandarin
3=Spanish
4=Russian
5=English

so the next time some asshole trys some racsit shit on kick his ass ok

:D


Now, don't get the wrong idea I have nothing against any of the races listed above, but I do believe this is where racism is coming from, certain people thinking it makes them "Better" than others.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:11 pm
by canakin
kill the bastard..

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:14 pm
by Grimjaw
Pay some unknown bum money to lit his place on fire. :D

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:19 pm
by canakin
Grimjaw wrote:Pay some unknown bum money to lit his place on fire.


really do it.. he seems to needs a lesson

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:35 pm
by Master0Chief
Holy crap...

So many Indians playing SRO. Shit.

Shit because I am the only Indian who plays MMORPG, or any other games for that matter in my Indian friend circle.



Anyway on topic,

That is just bad refering to anyone by racial slurs.
Do not ever shop there find other shop no matter if you have to walk two miles to go there and buy from there. Before you do that go to that store and tell that Mama kiss why you choose not to shop there, fillout a complain mentioning exactly what happend. And never go back there.


And to chickenfeather
chickenfeather wrote:Meh... whenever i speak chinese i refer to everyone by their race/country too... it's kinda built into the language to refer to "outsiders"(ie. non-chinese) by their respective descriptive term to distinguish between them.


You are a moron.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:52 pm
by clarencekuna
I never realise the handful of us playing this game are Indians...... :P

anyway, like I said I almost punched the sucka's face, shove an umbrella up his arse hole and open it.....

It's the nearest place for me to get the card, but I won't go there anymore. Used to like that bookstore cause sometimes they have books I couldn't even find in Kinokuniya *sigh*