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Ice imbue is useless
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:58 pm
by NuclearSilo
Ice is useful against mob, but not in pvp. Most high lvl players is immune to ice because the fire shield protection give a % reduce (not a unit reduce). And there is another reason why ice is useless that i want to share with u

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It's because the way of the damage system works. In sro, as soon as the animation is played, the system calculates the damage dealed to the opponent. In some games that i played, the damage is calculated at the time u get hit or at the end of the animation.
I dont want to confuse u. So, in a short word, frozen status,
in the middle of the opponent's skill animation, doesnt stop the damage but only the animation. In consequence, it allows the oppenent to cast skill more frequent => more damage, after 1.5s recover from the status.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:02 pm
by user
with the recent jSRO update, fire shield protection nows gives a unit reduction (as oppose to %), now ice immune is nearly impossible to achieve
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:02 pm
by DarkJackal
Ice is awsome, and it would be good agian if they just changed the fire shield thing, I liked slowing and freezing ppl more, even if a little less dmg.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:15 pm
by zonas_jaf
user wrote:with the recent jSRO update, fire shield protection nows gives a unit reduction (as oppose to %), now ice immune is nearly impossible to achieve
so ice will be useless in a year? 2?
look how long it took for the castle shield series and fanning spear series updates to get to ISRO
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:21 pm
by voltis5
yes i've noticed this when im frozen by a mob but i'm still dealing damage to them even though i'm not moving and b4 i gain normal stats their dead by then

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:23 pm
by ziddy1232
I am an ice glavie, and am seriously thinking of switching to fire.
Ice was great when i was bow cos i could give monsters and players (pvp) frostbite or frozen so could get more hits in before they could get to me. Now they just do it in front of me and its not so great.
Also, fire has the burn thingy that does more damage rather than just temp preventing an enemy to hit you.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:23 pm
by Black_Mamba
DarkJackal wrote:Ice is awsome, and it would be good agian if they just changed the fire shield thing, I liked slowing and freezing ppl more, even if a little less dmg.
Hell yeah, ice is wicked for monsters and the dmg difference is hardly anything. My character could still land 20k nukes on those niya skeletons with ice lol
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:28 pm
by Black_Mamba
user wrote:with the recent jSRO update, fire shield protection nows gives a unit reduction (as oppose to %), now ice immune is nearly impossible to achieve
Yeah I'd say it wouldn't be possible at all to be immune if the 4th book became a unit reduction of 78 instead of 78%, a maxed 4th book status effect is about 157 status effect so the buff would reduce that to 79 and then your jewels would only reduce a maximum of 80% of that, so even with max buff and max ice jewels you'd still get frozen with a very small status effect, it would be enough to cancel peoples skills which is the whole idea anyway.
Ice bladers would be impossible to kill once again.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:37 pm
by Blyth
Let's hope they fix this fire shield bug, i aws always a fan of ice

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:47 pm
by DarkJackal
Yup, that would befinatly be nice, and probably be best to make it go away if you unequip your shield >.>, if not, oh well.
btw hey mamba, havent seen you for a while lol, what lvl ru now? ;p.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:34 pm
by Black_Mamba
I'm not really playing it at the minute, I'm having a rest from the game until the prices of everything drops etc. Unlike a lot of people I wasn't capped for months, I think I hit 70 the day the cap was raised so I never got to have a little break from it all.
Plus I did 60-70 in 20 days trying to set some kinda new legit record, I wanted to beat the 4 week record set by botters qbit and poltergeist, so when the cap was up I just couldn't be bothered anymore lol
My characters at 73 though with a -4 gap, I had this funny idea to just try and get 4 trees fully maxed, even the stuff I'd never wanna use. I'm not that far from doing it, it's just finding some motivation to do it.
I let my offline RL friend play on it for now, stop it from all going to waste.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:58 pm
by alwinp
i went to fire for this reason.
If it would be changed, i don't thik i'll go back since the fire tree's has more buffs to offer for a full str.
Magic defence
phy dmg increase
status effect reduce
While ice only give my more phy defence and as a full str i already have enough of it
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:22 pm
by BigNig
DarkJackal wrote:Ice is awsome, and it would be good agian if they just changed the fire shield thing, I liked slowing and freezing ppl more, even if a little less dmg.
+1
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:24 pm
by uBeR
I would be playing ice still if:
1) There were no auto pots
2) Wasn't so easy to become immune
Sadly, these are not realities. Ergo, fire is my primary choice.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:53 pm
by Jdealer
Ice isnt useless, its hilarious! Not even one turk i have seen got ice resistance on Alps, its so funny freezing them with like 3 people till they run out of universal pills and say their favorite 'yo momma' line. Priceless.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:55 pm
by user
Jdealer wrote:Ice isnt useless, its hilarious! Not even one turk i have seen got ice resistance on Alps, its so funny freezing them with like 3 people till they run out of universal pills and say their favorite 'yo momma' line. Priceless.
u mean "your mama fck"?
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:04 pm
by JackB4u3r
Ice is, if you ask me, the most useful of the three trees ("healing" tree is really useless). Without it i could win every tents pvp duel. By learning a few skills I could win every 2nd to 3rd duel. It can help extremely if you know to use it!
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:04 pm
by avipercc
ice is great = end of story

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:49 am
by wutizdo
is tat u on the picture? cuz if so u PRETTY
UGLY
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:51 am
by user
wutizdo wrote:is tat u on the picture? cuz if so u PRETTY... UGLY
are you serious!? thats taiwan's top model
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:52 am
by IguanaRampage
user wrote:with the recent jSRO update, fire shield protection nows gives a unit reduction (as oppose to %), now ice immune is nearly impossible to achieve
mmmm I had a friend with 20% frost reduce on every piece of jewelry. I think he would still be immune even if fire shield wasnt a %.
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:55 am
by Grimjaw
wutizdo wrote:is tat u on the picture? cuz if so u PRETTY
UGLY!!
You're not something to write home about either...
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:08 am
by ShizKnight
Welcome to July 20, 2006.
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:10 am
by wutizdo
Grimjaw wrote:wutizdo wrote:is tat u on the picture? cuz if so u PRETTY
UGLY!!
You're not something to write home about either...
wtf u talkin u ..... fobby ass *****!
n tat bitch anit no top model she look like a death cat
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:12 am
by DarkJackal
Think we got another retard(possibly gay) on the forum?
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:18 am
by wutizdo
aww stfu DickJackhoe stop tryin 2 def tat ugly ass dog u ..... nerd go trian u ..... geek
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:19 am
by Draquish
ATTENTION SEEKER!!!!
EVERYONE GIVE HIM ATTENTION!!!
*stares*
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:20 am
by DarkJackal
wutizdo wrote:aww stfu DickJackhoe stop tryin 2 def tat ugly ass dog u ..... nerd go trian u ..... geek
ty for proving my accusation.
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:32 am
by takolin
Ice is great at level when noone is immune to it yet.
Nothing more fun as ice imbue+stun at lower levels.
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:09 pm
by Dempster
user wrote:with the recent jSRO update, fire shield protection nows gives a unit reduction (as oppose to %), now ice immune is nearly impossible to achieve
even if it were like that, its not too difficult to get the max % on jewelry.. (currently 20%) so if its possible at all.. people will still be imune =P