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would you want them to shut down SRO?

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:44 pm
by Ja
lots of hacking lately... and botting too... theres over 3000 downloads for a bot that was released just a few days ago... people are getting their credit cards frauded... etc. etc.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:03 pm
by Demarthl
3000 dowjnloads for a bot.. what? where?

for god sake report the bloody site!

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:14 pm
by Kew
IF (huge if) reported botters will really be punished, we can slowly get rid of them.
but i already can see an abuse for this. like reporting people who pissed someone off or something like that. i also dont know how i could proof that a guy actualy really botted. will joymax be able to see it?
i really hope all this will work. i already left an mmorpg cos of all those cheating pricks. and it wasnt easy to leave

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:18 pm
by Ecanem
Let me reiterate,

The credit card problems have NOTHING TO DO WITH JOYMAX!!!

Billgate/Cybergate handles all of the payments and the problem is on thier end.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:28 pm
by hellsharpt
Do we have ANY definitive proof that it's associated with Joymax?

I also have to wonder if that increase in the d/ls of the bot program is related to the increase in 'hacked' accounts. hmmmmmm

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:45 pm
by Deja Vu
Joymax must have something to do with it. I mean, was there instances like this when other mmorpgs opened their Item Mall? If so, how did they "fix" this?

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:11 pm
by Demarthl
if it could guarantee no more hacking or botting then yes, shut it off for a week, and bring it back up with a double xp event ^_^

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:19 pm
by SuicideGrl
i wouldn't even need double exp. (though that WOULD ive me 4x exp w/ my scroll...hmm...)

no SRO for a few weeks would be a very, very healthy thing for me. i have an addictive personality, and i play way too much.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:06 pm
by jetjetjetjet
you said.. a lot of ppl are geting fraud for hteir credit card.. can you explain that with proof? caues i am planing on purchasing items on SRO...

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:54 pm
by OneManArmy1
SuicideGrl wrote:i wouldn't even need double exp. (though that WOULD ive me 4x exp w/ my scroll...hmm...)

no SRO for a few weeks would be a very, very healthy thing for me. i have an addictive personality, and i play way too much.


It wouldn't be good for me! I need my daily fix!!!! :D

Oh, and if they shut it down they better shut down the timers on things like monkeys and xp scrolls of course.

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:49 am
by Geobot
shutting down the server wouldn't solve anything at all. first off, the botters would just be back with newer, better bots. when one bot is shut down, two more will rise to the top. it's the nature of the beast. there's more bot proggers than joymax has.

also, what does shutting down the servers have to do with the item mall? i could see if they shut that down for a week, IF they found that the site was insecure. but that has nothing to do with the game. plus, a lot of these 'hacks' were probably not hacked at all. it's amazing the kind of information you can get off someone's computer if you want to.

as for shutting down bot sites..... well you should already realize that that's near impossible. how many times have various p2p sites been shut down? how bout console ROMs? hacks, cracks, serials, cd keys? all they have to do is get a different host name, and put it all back up again. it happens all the time, and it's all still out there. if someone wants to find or host a bot, they'll be able to. yea, they'll probably get a virus or nasty malware, but they'll get their bot, and probably get "hacked" too.

don't get the wrong idea, i'm not saying i like bots or anything, but getting rid of them is going to be pretty difficult, if not impossible. can anyone name ONE large MMORPG that doesn't have bots for it? they all do, because it's easier to proram one than it is to stop one.

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:38 am
by james
im done with silky who wants to play a game with everyone cheating.

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:22 am
by AppleJuiceCaboose
it's also possible you're computer was hacked. have you scanned for viruses, trojans, spyware, and adware lately? ... kept up with updates etc...?

if someone has a keylogger on your computer they see everything you type.

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:42 am
by Ecanem
AppleJuiceCaboose wrote:it's also possible you're computer was hacked. have you scanned for viruses, trojans, spyware, and adware lately? ... kept up with updates etc...?

if someone has a keylogger on your computer they see everything you type.


As said before, the spyware/antivirus software relies on a set of "definitions" to find keyloggers and trojan horses. Since SRO is essentially a drop in the bucket of the online community, it is not likely that these keyloggers and trojans are recognized by the antivirus and spyware software.

So what can be done?

Software firewalls such as windows built in firewall and even better zonealarm will monitor any and all incoming and outgoing network traffic. If these keyloggers are trying to send the information then the firewalls should inform you of that.

Granted it is possible that a trojan could piggaback on another program that is already allowed to pass through your firewall and in that case you are pretty much screwed.

Bottom line, do not download anything about SRO you do not trust.

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:43 am
by Ja
whoa whoa whoa... i havent said anything for awhile sooo...

@Geobot
yes botters cannot be stopped... but the fact that there are botting programs out there is not the reason why i would/would not want them to shut down sro... its the fact that there are literally thousands of players who are doing so at this moment... someone needs to update that GG and take out that "complex" ISRObot 1.06... yes another one will soon comeout... but be optimistic... think of it as taking the noob botters out first... the ones who dont do anything but download and run a program... I KNOW YOU ARENT FOR BOTTING... but we/they need to at least attempt something new right?... because what has done before/now... doesnt really seem to be working... lol i went on a forum today and someone said that disabling bots would "ruin" the game... there are a lot of them out there... theres about 50 people right now at http://www.g*****p*****.something (which seems to be the more popular one)... psh and its not even a server downtime...

@AJC
my computer wasnt hacked... or i hope it wasnt... o.O... but read DM7's post... her story scares me... no bots, progz, similar passwords, keyloggers, NOTHING... the only thing that got her account hacked was her being targeted...

@Jet
ive only read of one instance... http://www.silkroadonline.org/forums/in ... topic=6954 ... its on another topic here but ecanem killed it... smart one that guy... i like how he "knows knows"...

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:24 am
by Geobot
yes, i know that just because botters can't really be stopped doesn't mean they shouldn't try. my main point was that it has nothing to do with shutting down the server for a week. there'd be no point to doing so. game companies can make a new client patch to get rid of certain bots, test it on their test servers, and then just give us a patch during the normal 'server inspection' time. there's just no reason it would have to be down for any long period of time to do that. i just kinda got sidetracked for the rest of what i said ^^

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:47 am
by AppleJuiceCaboose
Ecanem wrote:As said before, the spyware/antivirus software relies on a set of "definitions" to find keyloggers and trojan horses. Since SRO is essentially a drop in the bucket of the online community, it is not likely that these keyloggers and trojans are recognized by the antivirus and spyware software.

So what can be done?

Software firewalls such as windows built in firewall and even better zonealarm will monitor any and all incoming and outgoing network traffic. If these keyloggers are trying to send the information then the firewalls should inform you of that.

Granted it is possible that a trojan could piggaback on another program that is already allowed to pass through your firewall and in that case you are pretty much screwed.

Bottom line, do not download anything about SRO you do not trust.



Considered seppuku lately?

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:50 am
by AppleJuiceCaboose
Seraph707 wrote:@AJC
my computer wasnt hacked... or i hope it wasnt... o.O... but read DM7's post... her story scares me... no bots, progz, similar passwords, keyloggers, NOTHING... the only thing that got her account hacked was her being targeted...


oh yeah, i thought you were DM7 actually...

... not that i bothered to double check, I prefer to assume. It's funnier. :)

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:03 pm
by Jeronimo
I don't c the senses in shuttin' down the game :( I NEED 2 PLAY ! I'm a poor Lvl 31 always gettin' killed (5 times now :x ) by lags ! I need more time 2 train cause' I need 2 learn 4 school, make 3D characters (4 my firm's film, but I'm still learnin' how 2) and learn how 2 program in C++ (I'm a medium beginner). U c I don't have much time 2 play so I play 2 hours before I go 2 sleep. *Yawn*

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:01 pm
by Crumpets
Sro lives on !





P.S. Sorry Soda :>

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:03 pm
by iBilly
Necroposting FTL. :banghead:

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:04 pm
by Barotix
Crumpets wrote:Sro lives on !





P.S. Sorry Soda :>


.....why did you bump this.....?

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:04 pm
by Fat_Smurf
Crumpets wrote:Sro lives on !





P.S. Sorry Soda :>



wth thread digger <_< :P

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:06 pm
by Crumpets
Awww lost your sense of humor already ? Pftttt, do I need to make a I MURDERD HIM or a ROUGE KILLED ME thread?


-.-

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:07 pm
by iBilly
Necroposting FTL! No humour available. :P

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:07 pm
by Fat_Smurf
Crumpets wrote:Awww lost your sense of humor already ? Pftttt, do I need to make a I MURDERD HIM or a ROUGE KILLED ME thread?


-.-



yes long time i havent seen one


hum let's start a omg server traffic or omg sro is not f2p anymore or maybe a thread about bot?

:D

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:10 pm
by Crumpets
Fat_Smurf wrote:yes long time i havent seen one
um let's start a omg server traffic or omg sro is not f2p anymore or maybe a thread about bot?

:D


At least people are voting :P

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:12 pm
by Shuryu
no, get a bot and live happy 4 ever.

gotta love the "omg bot,hack threads"

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:12 pm
by Zypher
i lold at crumpets

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:34 pm
by StealMySoda
Crumpets wrote:Sro lives on !





P.S. Sorry Soda :>


BAD CRUMPETS

*borrows Milly's Whip*

BEND OVER :twisted:

Uh, Milly are you sure you want this whip back?