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Each + on a weapon Adds 18 more damage
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:27 am
by Lance
^__^
lol, after failing to +4 my crit 10 64 blade about 9 times, ive finally decided to have a look at how much more damage you get for each +, and its 18
+4 please

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:29 am
by Lemon
have you tried it on other weapons? on other levels? different base dmg%?
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:33 am
by Lance
no :0 only on a 21% phy damage blade :/
anyone else want to experiment?
am guessing it should be the same, otherwise everyone would up the % then +

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:36 am
by ShizKnight
Lance wrote:no :0 only on a 21% phy damage blade :/
anyone else want to experiment?

I find it quite ignorant to believe that if you +5'd a lvl 1 blade, it'd multiply in damage by leaps and bounds.
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:38 am
by Lance
so how does the + calculate how much damage it adds?
and + only affects the mag/phy damage correct?

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:39 am
by HuyFong
Maybe on the 7th degree blade

but on 8th degre it's definitely different. My SoS glavie (42%) phys. damage was 910 @ +7 and 956 @ +9 so that's a 46 points difference in damage and so each + was adding 23 points

My speculation is that it is different per level and per (%). Example: 7th degree would be 18 points but 8th degree would be 23 points. Those points are consistant but also differs by the % next to the physical damage. If you have a 42% blade it'll increase by more points then a 0%
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:41 am
by Lance
it was a 64 blade, not sos
am gonna try +4 it again, lol, il take pics this time XD
am getting so poor now, lucky powder sux the life out of you T_T
here you go, 3 more elixers, and its +1 still...

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:25 am
by ShizKnight
Lance wrote:it was a 64 blade, not sos
am gonna try +4 it again, lol, il take pics this time XD
am getting so poor now, lucky powder sux the life out of you T_T
here you go, 3 more elixers, and its +1 still...

Here's how it works. I will use numbers because its easier to comprehend than my broken english.
Blade +0=800 physical.
Blade +1=815 physical.
Blade +2=829 physical.
Fail at +3, goes back to +0.
Blade +0=800 physical.
Blade +1=815 physical.
Blade +2=829 physical.
You will get a random boost to damage on your first try to +1, and then if you fail, your +1 will STILL add the same damage if you re-apply it.
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:18 am
by c0kane
@ShizKnight: Is that verified?
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:24 am
by Draquish
Dont turn an un-complicated game more complicated
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Nukes-Tanks-Hybrids
Armour-Garms-Prots
bam, all u need right thr

Re: Each + on a weapon Adds 18 more damage
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:20 am
by kenbong
Lance wrote:^__^
lol, after failing to +4 my crit 10 64 blade about 9 times, ive finally decided to have a look at how much more damage you get for each +, and its 18
+4 please

If you were in my server,i would pleased to help you +4 on it..
Actually +4 is not that difficult...+7 is the most difficult part..

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:09 pm
by ShizKnight
c0kane wrote:@ShizKnight: Is that verified?
The specific numbers aren't verified, but the thing about reapplying +s is.
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:22 pm
by Drew_Benton
No, it does not:
And no, those aren't mine, I just conviently found them when I saw this thread!
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:58 pm
by Lance
Drew_Benton wrote:No, it does not:

And no, those aren't mine, I just conviently found them when I saw this thread!
that only added 12?
so am guessing the phy reinforce or the degre of the item has something to do with it then?
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:34 pm
by robustica
phys and magical reinforce are the factors for this in plussing weapons

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:49 pm
by Lance
i doubt it, otherwise everyone would up their reinforcements before adding the +
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:22 pm
by ShizKnight
Reinforcements =/= more + damage to alchemy.
Its. A. Random. Number. People have posted this before.
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:20 pm
by Passion
alchemy is based on diminishing returns , i cant be botherd to explain what that means but google is your friend.
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:58 am
by khang
i think its fair to say that all wep has a different effect toward thier damage
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:16 am
by Crumpets
I think it's fair to say who gives a shit.
Just look for good % and + it. Fair Play
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:18 am
by Drew_Benton
Passion wrote:alchemy is based on diminishing returns , i cant be botherd to explain what that means but google is your friend.
That's something I try to tell everyone I know that asks for alchemy help. +3 is not significantly better than +2! If only people would understand that. Espeically when you can't afford to get the weapon back to +2 if it fails.
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:04 am
by Nantosh
Maybe its just me but i find that the percent kinda matters ALOT when your comparing, 'cause having a +3 with 70% is like having a +4 and a half, i think anyways. well?
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:51 pm
by Lance
Drew_Benton wrote:No, it does not:

And no, those aren't mine, I just conviently found them when I saw this thread!
k, ive found out
8th degree + 18 damage for each +
7th degree + 15 damage for each +
6th degree + 12 damage for each +
go test it yourself if you dont believe me
Nantosh wrote:Maybe its just me but i find that the percent kinda matters ALOT when your comparing, 'cause having a +3 with 70% is like having a +4 and a half, i think anyways. well?
am not talking about the total damage, am talking about how much damage it ADDS for each '+'
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:59 pm
by [SD]Kratos
Lance, that is off-topic, but whatever.
You got 120K SP? please tell me it is photoshopped

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:04 pm
by Lance
-)G(-Kratos wrote:Lance, that is off-topic, but whatever.
You got 120K SP? please tell me it is photoshopped

how is that off topic?!?! so if i +9 my sos 52 blade, it would come to 574 damage
no, i only got 71 now

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:22 pm
by ShizKnight
Lance wrote:Drew_Benton wrote:No, it does not:

And no, those aren't mine, I just conviently found them when I saw this thread!
k, ive found out
8th degree + 18 damage for each +
7th degree + 15 damage for each +
6th degree + 12 damage for each +
go test it yourself if you dont believe me
Nantosh wrote:Maybe its just me but i find that the percent kinda matters ALOT when your comparing, 'cause having a +3 with 70% is like having a +4 and a half, i think anyways. well?
am not talking about the total damage, am talking about how much damage it ADDS for each '+'
... So. So. Ignorant.
/faceinpalm.
Someone go test it and prove him wrong.
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:20 pm
by Lance
everyone knows am right