I found pooh in the caves xian

Axeoo7 · Post by **Axeoo7** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:32 am

Key-J · Post by **Key-J** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:35 am

Lol Love the.. "hi hi hi i lov e you"

Did he give you the GM's blessing? or did he just go?

Axeoo7 · Post by **Axeoo7** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:37 am

nah he just disappeared funny thing is all the bots just logged off just before he came running into the room 0_o

Key-J · Post by **Key-J** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:38 am

Well most bots have a function that Auto loggs off when a GM is close by, which hey is one way to clear the Caves

Post by **Ryoko** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:39 am

Diamond.

Axeoo7 · Post by **Axeoo7** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:42 am

He is still on ive been telling him to check on some bot guilds.

Post by **Ryoko** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:44 am

Axeoo7 wrote:nah he just disappeared funny thing is all the bots just logged off just before he came running into the room 0_o

Unforunately, the bot can tell on the code level when a GM is near, and they have an auto-logoff option for it.

Sucks huh.

Axeoo7 · Post by **Axeoo7** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:48 am

Ryoko wrote:
Axeoo7 wrote:nah he just disappeared funny thing is all the bots just logged off just before he came running into the room 0_o

Unforunately, the bot can tell on the code level when a GM is near, and they have an auto-logoff option for it.

Sucks huh.

dam thats gay they should log on with a normal account.

Key-J · Post by **Key-J** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:54 am

Your still talking to him? Post SS of your convo

Axeoo7 · Post by **Axeoo7** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:01 am

No im talking and he aint replying

i just asked him when the lvl cap is going to be raised and some bot names that i can see.

ping_lo · Post by **ping_lo** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:17 am

Damit Axe you lucky bastard :shock:

I am never on when anything good happens.

Well save for the other banning of lillazian again the other night.

Still I could have come to your location. I have yet to see a GM in game.

MrJoey · Post by **MrJoey** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:24 am

After paying attention to various games I've played, developers of a pserver for an mmo. I've come to the same conclusion others might have. The bot operates off of packets. The gm sends a special packet identifying it as gm, so bot logs off. Monsters have special packets, the bot uses a packet to select the monster (hence why no mouse is needed) and then more packets to choose skills. Inventory has packets, it checks for scroll packets, picks one, goes to town, looks for specific npc packets, goes to the ones needed... I think everything for the bot, is done by packets. If I knew more about the bot, I'd be able to say more. To find out though, I'd have to actually use it, no thanks.

Tallrik · Post by **Tallrik** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:26 am

Axeoo7 wrote:
Ryoko wrote:
Axeoo7 wrote:nah he just disappeared funny thing is all the bots just logged off just before he came running into the room 0_o

Unforunately, the bot can tell on the code level when a GM is near, and they have an auto-logoff option for it.

Sucks huh.

dam thats gay they should log on with a normal account.

GM's bans people who logoff as they enter (if they are checking a report).

MrJoey · Post by **MrJoey** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:28 am

Detecting a packet would be faster than any person's eyes could be. After all, the gm has to load the spot and everything, and while loading, I'm sure the gm is already sending packets to the area, thus clearing out the bots.

Nuklear · Post by **Nuklear** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:29 am

If you all want to know about the bot program I know a bot guild vent that my guild use to frequent. The provider is really nice and would prob gladly give me some info to pass along.

MrJoey · Post by **MrJoey** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:31 am

I doubt most botters know how the bot works other than setting it up... Though some don't even seem to know how to do that. :roll:

Uber_Wang · Post by **Uber_Wang** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:33 am

MrJoey wrote:.......The gm sends a special packet identifying it as gm, so bot logs off. Monsters have special packets.......

How cool would it be if the GM packet could be disguised as a monster, and bots go into auto-attack on the GM?

[GM]Somedumbname : Excuse me ffghjkwtr, plz stop attacking me or I'll ban you

Nuklear · Post by **Nuklear** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:36 am

MrJoey wrote:I doubt most botters know how the bot works other than setting it up... Though some don't even seem to know how to do that.

Actually this person is incredibly smart.

B4 I post anything I'd like to know what Ryoko's stance would be...

Tallrik · Post by **Tallrik** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:37 am

I wish GM could come visit me some day

I so wanna fraps/screenie me being offender on him :o

Please report Tallrik of Tibet as botter +_+

Jeronimo · Post by **Jeronimo** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:26 pm

Uber_Wang wrote:
MrJoey wrote:.......The gm sends a special packet identifying it as gm, so bot logs off. Monsters have special packets.......

How cool would it be if the GM packet could be disguised as a monster, and bots go into auto-attack on the GM?

[GM]Somedumbname : Excuse me ffghjkwtr, plz stop attacking me or I'll ban you

Now why doesn't JM cum up with an idea like that by themselves ? :roll:

Good thinking UBer_Wang

zphantom · Post by **zphantom** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:30 pm

Key-J wrote:Well most bots have a function that Auto loggs off when a GM is close by, which hey is one way to clear the Caves

Bots log off only when in close distance to a GM?

Someone make a [GM]bot that runs back and forth all day logging off botters! Or the [GM]s should bot themselves ;p

SuicideGrl · Post by **SuicideGrl** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:39 pm

i just missed the GM... nightbloom told me about him as i was running past. stupid luck :P

Hesseth · Post by **Hesseth** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:42 am

Just accept it till they fix the problem or find a new game. Guys and Gals they know about the bots. They don't read this forum.

But I guess we all like pissing in the wind because we like the way it feels on our legs.

MrJoey · Post by **MrJoey** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:51 am

Actually one or two gm's have said that they read various forums hesseth.

chickenfeather · Post by **chickenfeather** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:52 am

Haha, hey axe! He probably disappeared just because of your "hi hi hi i lov e you". I wanna see GM too... u lucky b.

Zypher · Post by **Zypher** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:54 am

the bot also pots by using packets

like ingame potting it sucks
botpot pots before you get to that part due to packets sending in and out

Hesseth · Post by **Hesseth** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:18 am

MrJoey wrote:Actually one or two gm's have said that they read various forums hesseth.

All more reason they can't fix or don't care.. Im sure posts about bots are all over every forum that relate to SRO.

MrJoey · Post by **MrJoey** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:22 am

You do realize, that it just might not be the gm's fault? Joymax developers probably don't read forums, and they're the ones that are responsible for updates. It's possible that when it comes to bot ban, they might also be involved. I've been thinking that maybe something in the code, or such, is causing bots to keep from actually getting banned. The l and I look-a-like is a problem too. Would be solved easily I'm sure, simply by changing in game text.

Hesseth · Post by **Hesseth** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:49 am

MrJoey wrote:You do realize, that it just might not be the gm's fault? Joymax developers probably don't read forums, and they're the ones that are responsible for updates. It's possible that when it comes to bot ban, they might also be involved. I've been thinking that maybe something in the code, or such, is causing bots to keep from actually getting banned. The l and I look-a-like is a problem too. Would be solved easily I'm sure, simply by changing in game text.

I don't mean to be rude about it.. But as you say alot can be fixed easily. Ask yourself this how long has SRO been out, and how long has bots been around? If they cared/could fix the problem they would of by now. Its not a problem as easy as fix as we think.

You have to come up with a way that out thinks the guy who made up the bots. That may just be something that this game isn't able to do. The problem has been there for the life of this game. Its not something that popped up last week.

Look at the gold duping? They fixed that fast and almost right away. All I can say is get used to bots, they are here to stay for now.

MrJoey · Post by **MrJoey** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 12:34 pm

Reading comprehension ftl.

I said the name problem, where people have capital i in place of lower case l... which looks the same, getting away with stuff. That could be solved by changing fonts so it differentiates.