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need help Im an archer but should i change my Weapon?
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:44 pm
by archerforce
Hi guys,
actuly Im new and made an Pure str ARCHER and folowed the guide here (about skills i did only the basic archer skills and went Ice and got walk gras skill of lighting), but why my archer is weak?, is that because i have NPC ARMOR and Weapon?
Im lvl18 at the moment but i feel i die fast.
anyways may be may archer will improve later?,when i get to lvl20 and get fire skills and the others as the guide says?
or should i get different weapon and different skills?
all these questions on my head anyone can answer or explain to me please!!!cause Im really confused and dont know what to do!?!?!?
PLEASE HELP ,YOU ARE THE BEST GUYS!!
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:55 pm
by Quyxz
Euhm, I'm sorry but start over and take glavie or something if you want to be pure str. But then you need to use fire instead of cold. Then you do way more dmg.
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:56 pm
by PsYch008
well, the npc stuff might have something to do with it...
but if you dont want to die fast, start a blader.

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:11 pm
by archerforce
thanks very much for ur opinion and thats what Im gona decide if there is no more replys.
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:21 pm
by Uber_Wang
The NPC gear definitely has something to do with it.
It has 0 stats for everything doesn't it? And no Blues?
At level 70 I know an archer pure STR who pwns a pure INT spear character (which frustrates him hehe).
Go Fire not Ice if you want to keep it.
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:21 pm
by Drew_Benton
If you feel your archer is weak, then yes, it's because of the NPC gear.
If you are dying a lot, then something is definitly wrong, especially if you are a pure Str character. Do you use auto-pot? If so, what are the settings? Are you taking enough pots to grind in the first place?
I'm thinking the build is fine, there's something else that is wrong.
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:36 pm
by archerforce
i don't use auto-pot (how i can use it and what i should put the settings on?),Iam just a normal archer but I agree with u i should get anther gear but i feel all the same and see the glavie are damn fast with kill all kind of mobs.
and till now Im confused should i keep going and be an archer with some good advices?or should i start new charcter? (glavie or blade of course)

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:43 pm
by Pake1
Autopot is in character options, actions, then right click on auto-pot. I think its the last icon in the top row not sure.
Being a 6x archer, i can kill faster than a blader, and grind easier than the other str builds.
If you like being an archer, then be one, don't change because someone says otherwise.
Oh yeah, stop getting npc gear around 2x-3x.
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:52 pm
by archerforce
Pake1 wrote:Autopot is in character options, actions, then right click on auto-pot. I think its the last icon in the top row not sure.
Being a 6x archer, i can kill faster than a blader, and grind easier than the other str builds.
If you like being an archer, then be one, don't change because someone says otherwise.
Oh yeah, stop getting npc gear around 2x-3x.
cool and may be i will listen to u cause i love archers to be honst but as u see the other replies are just confusing lol.
and about the gear what gear should i get and how?,
I tried to get a good gear from STALLS but all seems clean and expensive,
I dont know how to get with that problem it seems I will be a noob for ever

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:22 pm
by HuyFong
If you don't want to die - go blader. But remember it takes you jsut as long to kill someone as it does someone to kill you. You tank a shitload, but you can't deal great damage.
I was an archer from 1 to 66 so I can tell you that being an archer, gears are a must. Dont ever ever ever ever use NPC gears, always buy from stalls because almost 100% of the time the dropped gears will be better then NPC.
And absolutely under NO circumstances should you EVER use an NPC weapon...

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:28 pm
by archerforce
HuyFong wrote:If you don't want to die - go blader. But remember it takes you jsut as long to kill someone as it does someone to kill you. You tank a shitload, but you can't deal great damage.
I was an archer from 1 to 66 so I can tell you that being an archer, gears are a must. Dont ever ever ever ever use NPC gears, always buy from stalls because almost 100% of the time the dropped gears will be better then NPC.
And absolutely under NO circumstances should you EVER use an NPC weapon...

thank u very much for ur advice , and btw Im using Garment Gear and bought them from STALLS but is it ok if its clean (no blue on it)?
i have 100k gold atm and dont wanna spend that much cause i will need a new weapon as i level up.
any more advices?
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:22 pm
by PsYch008
switch from ice imbue to fire imbue, get a good bow with crit at least 9 or higher, and turn on autopot, buy a lot of pots, and you should be good to go man

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:33 am
by archerforce
thank u very much all of u , u all gave me postive points so i will stay with my archer and try to get a good Gear and bow.

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:20 am
by Silver
Don't use a NPC weapon! o_o. The worst weapon I used was a +3. And everything else was basically SoS.
And err.. like people stated, your armour too. >_>
Archers are unique. I wouldn't change if I were you. Everyone else is basically a glaiver, blader, nuker, or whatever.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:38 am
by achmalach
stay archer, there is a serious lack of them since all seem to switch to some other weapon.
And they rock in group PVP
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:13 am
by Megalomaniac
Since most people are well protected from ice the ice imbue is garbage(IMO).
Always use fire imbue.
I dont even see any reason to use other imbues
Ice is super weak and the frostbite aint that useful anymore and lightning is OK but it barely paralyzes at all :\ And even if it does its not gonna last for too long if pills are used.
Well unless you are TOO farmed and have nothing to spend your SP on lol.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:21 am
by iCannot
My friend changed his main mastery 3 times: started as heuksal-glavie, then at lvl3x changed to bowmanship, and not so long ago at lvl52 converted himself to blader

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:16 am
by archerforce
ok guys thanks but anyone can tell me how much is the (good) Gear for lvl19-20?and the bow as well?
Im currently lvl19.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:13 pm
by tomiotar
On this moment I'm a lvl30 archer int hyb, something that every one on the forum say its the worst combination (and I use garment). From my knowledge so far I can tell you that using the ice imbue only some orange or the taoist (that fire from distance) can touch me before I kill them. That is fighting monster only, later if you play against a real player with autopot pils medium o large he will probably kill you before you take half of his life.
So, to grind and kill agro mobs you go much faster with the bow than the others and you have to rest less or use less pots. But if you are planning being a thief and kill other players you are probably on big problem (any good player will have autopot universal pils). I start as an archer and I will finish as an archer, but I know that it has some deffects.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:50 pm
by Drachenklaue
Use hand to hand combat. Your bare hands are your best weapons.
As said before. Do not use NPC gear, and never dare to buy any NPC weapon. You should go for crit 9+ as pure str.
You should pay around lvl * 1k - 5k for normal gear.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:40 pm
by Hailfall
What's wrong with ice imbue? It's great in PvE to kill them faster (and you rarely getting hit)
Okay if you play PvP maybeits not worth it but he to each hi own you know.
I got an 4X hybrid str archer with ice imbue and I love it.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:47 pm
by Drachenklaue
It doesn't make you kill faster. You kill slower. But you get hit less.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:52 pm
by hellsharpt
Drachenklaue wrote:It doesn't make you kill faster. You kill slower. But you get hit less.
BINGO!
fire does more damage than ice. fire also has passives/buffs that help increase your damage. My archer changed from ice to fire in the late 40's and I was much happier, should have done it a long time before.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:53 pm
by Skitsefrenik
Everybody dies. Some die faster than others. Everybody levels slow. Some level slower than others. Everybody kills. Some kill less than overs.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:55 pm
by Ryoko
Hailfall wrote:What's wrong with ice imbue? It's great in PvE to kill them faster (and you rarely getting hit)
Okay if you play PvP maybeits not worth it but he to each hi own you know.
I got an 4X hybrid str archer with ice imbue and I love it.
And I am ice immune, so good luck with that.
My spells don't even get interrupted.
So PVE all the way for you, and less damage to me. I like it.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:12 pm
by Hailfall
I don't PvP because you got always people whining about things.
Anyhow point being.. There is nothing wrong with ice imbue if you are pure PvE because it helps a lot (add a little harmony therapy circle in it and you got a winner)
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:40 pm
by Priam
new bow, the crit is only 2...
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:34 am
by Pred
bow sucks. I leveled to 70 before I found that out lol. useless in pvp/war unless your targeting Int chars only. I spent 70 bux or so to switch to blade and I couldnt be happier.
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:37 am
by Priam
U might be happier and all, one thing’s just not true, bow doesn’t suck. All weapons are usefull in they’re own way, for bow this is a supportive way. Anyone whom wants to go bow, should be able to go for it without being discouraged by other people. Remember: They’re experiences might differ from yours.