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+6 without lucky powder

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:39 pm
by initialbee
today no mood to leveliong,so i decided to make my +5 lvl64 blade to +6,when i add weapon elxir into alchemy window and press fuse,i just release i haven't put lucky powder yet :banghead: :banghead: ,but what so surprise,its was SUCCESSED :D :D omg, i gonna +7 on my blade soon,without lucky powder i think :D :D (jk)

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:49 pm
by HuyFong
hehe gratz man. Just becareful of the negative attention you might get. Remember the best thing about going to +7 is that if it suceed its gold! If it fails, then so what make it back to +5 and its purple again. A lot of people put importance on +6 when its really not. So just go for it and have fun :D again gratz bro

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:59 pm
by initialbee
actually i nv thought that i can +6,just try,maybe too nervous...i for got to put lucky powder...but its wrk :D maybe its a bugs :D :D

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:08 pm
by mKaaru
imagine how much money Joymax could make if they would add Lucky stones to Item Mall :D lately there's been a such a high demand on lucky tabs/stones to +7 a weapon (especially the 8th degree ones) that doing so would really provide Joymax yet another valuable source of income :P

drop me sosun sword once cap raises and you implemented luckies in item mall Gargamel! 8)

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:34 pm
by Crumpets
Eh if they wanna make money they should sell Universal pills in bulks fo 500, i'd need that >.>.

But yeah whats the diff between stone and powder? I thoguth they were the same...

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:45 pm
by Zakaria
i think lucky stones add a lucky atribute to ure wep
so if u use a lucky stone ure wep becomes------> lucky 1 times

and its like an extra lucky powder thats always on ure weapon ( i think :? )

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:55 pm
by initialbee
..........+7 failed.....with adding lucky stone...also had add lucky powder this time... :cry: next time i will try to make it withut lucky powder :x

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:01 pm
by kenbong
I just laugh at initialb33 when i saw him forget to put lucky powder to +6 his blade..But it's work... :banghead: :banghead:
But after few minutes,it's MY TURN TO FORGET TO PUT LUCKY POWDER!!
I too nervous till i forget to put lucky powder.. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
No wonder i +5 for 5 times and all failed... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
I only realize i forget to put lucky powder when i saw my inventory still have 5 lucky powder which i buy before i do alchemy.. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
He laugh till his stomachache and i feel upset for it.. :banghead: :banghead:
A damn shit unlucky alchemy day...Now +5 gone... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:59 pm
by Crumpets
Zakaria wrote:i think lucky stones add a lucky atribute to ure wep
so if u use a lucky stone ure wep becomes------> lucky 1 times

and its like an extra lucky powder thats always on ure weapon ( i think :? )


Thats wah ta i was thinkin... so I dont understand why in Olympus, possibly other servers a lucky stone goes for 2-3m ( degree 8 ), while powders cost 100K+

:?

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:02 pm
by Chaby
Lucky is like a double chancer. If the alchemy fails, it's like it's done again with lucky on item.

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:03 pm
by Crumpets
Arr right thnx chabs

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:16 pm
by zexy
kenbong wrote:I just laugh at initialb33 when i saw him forget to put lucky powder to +6 his blade..But it's work... :banghead: :banghead:
But after few minutes,it's MY TURN TO FORGET TO PUT LUCKY POWDER!!
I too nervous till i forget to put lucky powder.. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
No wonder i +5 for 5 times and all failed... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
I only realize i forget to put lucky powder when i saw my inventory still have 5 lucky powder which i buy before i do alchemy.. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
He laugh till his stomachache and i feel upset for it.. :banghead: :banghead:
A damn shit unlucky alchemy day...Now +5 gone... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL :shock:

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:17 pm
by zexy
Chaby wrote:Lucky is like a double chancer. If the alchemy fails, it's like it's done again with lucky on item.


I doubt luck works that way.

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:33 pm
by Drachenklaue
Maybe luck (as powder and stone) isn't implemented in alchemy calculation at all and it's just a random generator behind all calculations. :)

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:51 pm
by PhaiKia
initialbee wrote:..........+7 failed.....with adding lucky stone...also had add lucky powder this time... :cry: next time i will try to make it withut lucky powder :x


LOL.. how many days ? you can't sleep.. after failed to +7

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:03 pm
by SuicideGrl
zexy wrote:
Chaby wrote:Lucky is like a double chancer. If the alchemy fails, it's like it's done again with lucky on item.


I doubt luck works that way.

the way i understand it, every alchemy try is a random dice roll.

if you press fuse and the random value you get falls outside the range of what would be a "success" for that enchantment, then either a) the item fails or b) lucky kicks in and it gets rerolled.

lucky powder, however, merely adds to the chance of success. not sure if the bonus from the powder applies to both rolls or just the initial one, meaning if you fail and the lucky stat causes a reroll, does the powder bonus apply to that too? not sure. i would assume yes, but without seeing the code i dunno.

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:50 pm
by HuyFong
I really don't know how lucky works but all I know is that every single time I have lucky on an item or added it onto my item it always fails. I have never had lucky worked on +4 or above.

+7 :arrow: add lucky stone :arrow: add weap elixir :arrow: failed :banghead:
+8 :arrow: add lucky stone :arrow: add weap elixir :arrow: failed :banghead:


+7 :arrow: no lucky :arrow: suceed +8 :arrow: no lucky :arrow: suceed +9 :wink: :P lucky stone is bugged & overpriced

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:27 am
by MasterPuxxy
HuyFong wrote:I really don't know how lucky works but all I know is that every single time I have lucky on an item or added it onto my item it always fails. I have never had lucky worked on +4 or above.

+7 :arrow: add lucky stone :arrow: add weap elixir :arrow: failed :banghead:
+8 :arrow: add lucky stone :arrow: add weap elixir :arrow: failed :banghead:


+7 :arrow: no lucky :arrow: suceed +8 :arrow: no lucky :arrow: suceed +9 :wink: :P lucky stone is bugged & overpriced



LOL! Cannnot be more ture!
I have 5 lucky stone, try to +7 failed! Up to now, it has waste about 30 astral!
Man.... cry about it!
WELL , the weapon itself is a beast, once have 4 crit in a row!

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:39 pm
by initialbee
HuyFong wrote:I really don't know how lucky works but all I know is that every single time I have lucky on an item or added it onto my item it always fails. I have never had lucky worked on +4 or above.

+7 :arrow: add lucky stone :arrow: add weap elixir :arrow: failed :banghead:
+8 :arrow: add lucky stone :arrow: add weap elixir :arrow: failed :banghead:


+7 :arrow: no lucky :arrow: suceed +8 :arrow: no lucky :arrow: suceed +9 :wink: :P lucky stone is bugged & overpriced


hmm......i gonna try to make it without lucky,included lucky powder :D :D

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:33 pm
by Drachenklaue
Want to see the algorithm.
...
Anyone willing to marry one of the developpers? :D

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:51 pm
by Quyxz
Do lucky powders increase your chance of succeedin, then ? :P

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:35 pm
by initialbee
Quyxz wrote:Do lucky powders increase your chance of succeedin, then ? :P


just try :D