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Which Heuksal skills do u use in PvP?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:36 pm
by MaRcG11
I mean, is combo useful in PVP?

Which are the most useful?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:53 pm
by XMoshe
sould spear/ghost spear are have the most effect in PvP (you can use combo..but it aint smart xD )

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:59 pm
by MaRcG11
XMoshe wrote:sould spear/ghost spear are have the most effect in PvP (you can use combo..but it aint smart xD )


Why it aint smart?

So only 2 skills?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:38 pm
by Mauler109
because of the people with blades/swords that wil flip u and stuff.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:41 pm
by Skitsefrenik
Yuhon Spear, it does damage and looks 50x cool. You spin around your spear and kick the person :D

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:00 pm
by MaRcG11
But u guys only use that 2 skills?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:03 pm
by Mauler109
lol im only lvl 19 but i heard a lot and looked around at guides and thats what they have been saying.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:03 pm
by Ice771x
i usually nuke, soul spear, ghost spear, chain, sould spear, etc.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:08 pm
by Nuklear
Chains are useless unless you get crits on the last couple of hits (stongest). So if you're feeling lucky, or not a very good strategist, go for chains. :roll:

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:48 pm
by canakin
i think nuke+throw your spear/glavie+soul spear+ghost spear will do good

at least for a hybrid int it does... :roll:

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:54 pm
by Slashdot
Chains are for panzies and/or n00bs. Only two attacks matter and you all know what they are. The spear throw also comes in handy for killing pure nukers if it crits on impact. So i guess 2 skills and 1 secondary. However, if you wanna dance around like a ******, jumping in the air and flailing your arms and legs around like an idiot, be my guess and get the chain series. If you don't win, you're bound to look pretty.

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:06 am
by IguanaRampage
flying dragon, ghost spear, soul spear, passive. Cant think of any others....

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:23 am
by superblur
jadebreaker --> soul spear truth --> ghost spear

repeat...

kills pretty much anything my level...

including bladers... hehehe

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:25 am
by ShizKnight
SSS-SST-GSP(GSM if you're farmed)

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:15 am
by icechai
for ints, NUKE->SSS->PLUTO->GSM (if you try to nuke instead of pluto, your imbue will run out and your GSM will do no damage :P unless you time the imbue to the very last frame before your first nuke shoots out, either way, nuke = slower)

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:02 pm
by Ice771x
Slashdot wrote:Chains are for panzies and/or n00bs. Only two attacks matter and you all know what they are. The spear throw also comes in handy for killing pure nukers if it crits on impact. So i guess 2 skills and 1 secondary. However, if you wanna dance around like a ******, jumping in the air and flailing your arms and legs around like an idiot, be my guess and get the chain series. If you don't win, you're bound to look pretty.



way to force your opinion onto others.

having a high crit weapon or one with high damaga makes chains perfectly reasonable in pvp. it works fine for me. so why not let people say what they do and not act like a douche when they do.

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:11 pm
by SuicideGrl
typical PvP combos:

nuke - Soul Spear Soul - Ghost Spear Mars
Soul Spear Truth - Soul Spear Soul - Ghost Spear Mars
if from a distance: nuke - Flying Dragon Fly - Earth Lion Shout

i definitely use SSS and GSM the most though, for PvP and PvE.

in my experience, the chains are pretty useless in PvP, EXCEPT for the last one. all of hits hits are pretty strong, and it does more dmg over time than, say, using the two Soul Spear attacks together. however, i can still pot the dmg off way too easily for it to be a real threat MOST of the time (though i know a certain person w/ a +9 spear *cough*jabbers*cough* who still hurts bad with it). most of the time, though, when someone uses a chain on me, i think "pssh, awesome, this'll be an easy fight". just being honest.

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:18 pm
by Vintar
Typically I use Nuke + GSM + SSS if I'm from range. I start with SSS if already close.

Why GSM before SSS ? Just because the disabling effect has a higher % so I get a better chance to do my 3 skills before dying/being stunned / kd.
Hybrids may not have this problem. Except against SOS glaives.

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:30 pm
by achmalach
but isn't one of the keys also speed?
SSS and GSM are very slow... while nachal and pluto are fast (as are all the chains)...

Isn't it possible to make a fast skills glavier?

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:27 pm
by aghost153
.....fast chain ? lmao
this is how a nuker fight (hybird btw)
nuke+dragon flow+sss+gsp if the guy arent dead .... run pot do the samthing again
and to all those cocky pure str glavies out there: don;t think u invincible
im gonna pwn u

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:54 pm
by jabbers
the last chain (pluto) is good if you can get it off without it being interrupted, which is hard but there r two ways : you use it right after u stun them (best way) or right after you cast a fire/ice wall and theyre in range. Its has some strong hits but also has quick recovery time so u can do ghost spear or nuke right after an it'll look cooL :P

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:58 pm
by Vintar
achmalach wrote:but isn't one of the keys also speed?
SSS and GSM are very slow... while nachal and pluto are fast (as are all the chains)...


SSS is just as fast as a nuke if not faster. BUT the damage is taken in account when you start the skills, where nuke damage is taken only at the end.
Small example : you are int spear fighting another int spear. To make it fun you both wear armor so the duel never last for more than 2 seconds. You cast a pluto chain, and at the exact same time the other int starts a SSS. Both of these 2 attacks do enough damage to kill both of you. Who wins ?
Here is what happens : the pluto chain will start to cast and then you will stop and do nothing since the game has already calculated that you are dead bacause of the SSS (I'm pretty sure you don't even do the first strike of your chain). That happens EVEN IF YOU DON'T STUN.
Add to this that SSS does very good damage and can stun = great skill.

About the GSM : you think it's slow ? Actually it's the quicker skill after combo arrows. Does very good damages too, close to insane on crit :)
(thinking about this, there is a common bug on GSM : sometimes the skills crit but it doesn't appear as a crit, with the small Critical tag under the dmg)
Same as SSS, damages are calculated just before the skill actually does its damages. Knockback is very nice too, which makes this skill a must-have.

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:33 pm
by Hyori
Soul Spear
Ghost Spear
Chain Spear Pluto
Flying Dragon

Anything else is retarded.

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:29 pm
by achmalach
Vintar, thx

nice explanation :)

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:48 am
by GodsAngel
Advice is nice and all but it all depends on your situation, not only who you face but your personal eq and experience fighting your opponent. So play around and even if you think you have a "win" combination keep playing around.

My skills tat i use are as such.
Soul Soul/Truth
Ghost Spear Mars/Prince
Spirit Crash Spear
Fire Wall
Fly Dragon Fly/that other one
Ghost Walk
I would use chains but I'm still leveling those
and of course fire imbue.

lol I use so much cuz unfortunately I dun have the best gear or farmed skills so I can't just stand there and soul soul and deal and take the damage.
I'm thinking of trying out that spinning glaive move too, I tried it out in battle and maybe if i can get the timing right it might be of some use.


*Btw in case some of u didnt notice any of the GS series is based on luck usually it does like 2000 damage or something like that, but sometimes it'll do 1000 o.0 and other times 4000. So if you like playing the lottery maybe you'll hit the jackpot 4000 in crit = 8000 damage. course, in reality imbue doesnt crit so minus tat damage, but either way it's still KO worthy damage dealt.

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:59 am
by senapanaga
chains suxxorz? sweet thats like what, 10, maybe 20k i dont have to farm? brb ima check how much lolz...

HOLY SHIT, It is like 20k less sp for me to farm now. :D

Awesomeness...

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:04 am
by Zypher
Skitsefrenik wrote:Yuhon Spear, it does damage and looks 50x cool. You spin around your spear and kick the person :D


thats spirit crash spear

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:25 am
by nycxfool
soul spear soul/truth
ghost spear mars
chain spear pluto