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Stopping CCF....easy?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:50 am
by AllEyezOnMe
I'm sure someone has thought of this before, I thought of it a few months back but never ended up posting it. So tell me what you guys think.

Level 1 - 8 characters can only use level 1 and can NOT use astral level 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.
Level 9 - 15 can only use level 1 and 2.
Level 16 - 23 can only use level 1, 2, and 3.
Level 24 - 31 can only use level 1, 2, 3, and 4.
Level 32 - 41 can only use level 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5.
Level 42 - 51 can only use level 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6.
Level 52 - 63 can only use level 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7.
Level 64 - 75 can only use level 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8.
And so on as cap is raised.

Wouldn't this stop 90% - 95% of all CCF since people wouldn't want to CCF and lose a high level account? I mean, why else would a level 1 need 100 x level 8 astrals. :D

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:51 am
by Caras
Email Joymax with your ideas, nothing you do here will ever make a diffrence probly.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:54 am
by AllEyezOnMe
One person emailing doesn't help. If maybe a few hundred people send this to 'em 2 or 3 times then it might work. Still, a very small chance of JoyMax listening to us (unless they browse these forums).

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:57 am
by Caras
You dont think that happens? Im sure Joymax gets hundreds of emails each day, but botters make up alot of the money they get. There never gonna ban all botters, and if they do the games gonna be p2p.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:58 am
by cuchulainn
AllEyezOnMe wrote:One person emailing doesn't help. If maybe a few hundred people send this to 'em 2 or 3 times then it might work. Still, a very small chance of JoyMax listening to us (unless they browse these forums).


I'll see if I can talk to Gargamel about it.

And btw, Crayon reads these forums at least every now and then.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:02 am
by AllEyezOnMe
cuchulainn wrote:
AllEyezOnMe wrote:One person emailing doesn't help. If maybe a few hundred people send this to 'em 2 or 3 times then it might work. Still, a very small chance of JoyMax listening to us (unless they browse these forums).


I'll see if I can talk to Gargamel about it.

And btw, Crayon reads these forums at least every now and then.


Are you an SA or something? (wow I totally forgot about SAs lol)

How would you talk to Gargamel? :?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:06 am
by cuchulainn
AllEyezOnMe wrote:
cuchulainn wrote:
AllEyezOnMe wrote:One person emailing doesn't help. If maybe a few hundred people send this to 'em 2 or 3 times then it might work. Still, a very small chance of JoyMax listening to us (unless they browse these forums).


I'll see if I can talk to Gargamel about it.

And btw, Crayon reads these forums at least every now and then.


Are you an SA or something? (wow I totally forgot about SAs lol)

How would you talk to Gargamel? :?


Not an SA. Gargamel was the person in charge of the iSRO contestants for GNGWC.

<-- Won GNGWC

So I can contact him if necessary.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:12 am
by AllEyezOnMe
I do know you won GNGWC. But did Gargamel give you his phone number or something? :D

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:24 am
by cuchulainn
AllEyezOnMe wrote:I do know you won GNGWC. But did Gargamel give you his phone number or something? :D


I had to have some way of contacting him before the competition with questions and concerns.

Email has been sent to Gargamel, though I can't guarantee anything will come out of it, so don't hold your breath.

I'd suggest, you have to be no more than 1 degree away from it to use it. AKA a 52+ can do work on their 64 weapons before they get to 64.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:04 am
by Quyxz
Yeah thats better. Because if you wanna have a nice 42 weapon you can start pimping it before youre going to use it. Else you use a unpimped weapon in your first 42 days. :P

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:40 am
by Jeronimo
he he he...if Gargamel's or any GM's email-address would leak he'd get spammed 24/7 :D :) 8) :roll:

I can already imagine Chaby's email :roll:

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:55 am
by cuchulainn
Jeronimo wrote:he he he...if Gargamel's or any GM's email-address would leak he'd get spammed 24/7 :D :) 8) :roll:

I can already imagine Chaby's email :roll:


That's why I'm not giving it to anyone, but it seems people are smart enough not to ask for it, lol.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:13 am
by YanWangTsu
Another good way to stop CCF is for JoyMax and SRO GM's to look at omg, 5 brand new characters, with 500 silk on them, then omg, chargeback, did you know that PayPal keeps a log of IP addresses?; SRO GM's and/or JoyMax could just get the IP from PayPal, if it's proxied, then well, have the IP traced by the FBI, like I do with all the scammers and hackers, anyway, just my 2 cents.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:08 pm
by AllEyezOnMe
YanWangTsu wrote:Another good way to stop CCF is for JoyMax and SRO GM's to look at omg, 5 brand new characters, with 500 silk on them, then omg, chargeback, did you know that PayPal keeps a log of IP addresses?; SRO GM's and/or JoyMax could just get the IP from PayPal, if it's proxied, then well, have the IP traced by the FBI, like I do with all the scammers and hackers, anyway, just my 2 cents.


I promise you, if I CCFed I could make it untracable. :wink:

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:15 pm
by Skitsefrenik
Heres an idea......no CCs :!:

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:02 pm
by MaNNia
verry good ideea i alredy reported to 'bug report' i hope gm will read and aply it

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:53 pm
by doganm
wats ccf?u

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:04 pm
by Aya
ccf= credit card fraud for the 54865997698th time...
well, apparantly JM still get their money if the ccfer used mastercard, coz mastercard doesn't give a dam and just pays JM but pays back the customer their money (which is covered by the card insurance), and i wouldn't suprise me if it was the same with VISA

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:17 pm
by whY-2G
Level 1 - 8 characters can only use level 1, 2 and can NOT use astral level 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.
Level 9 - 15 can only use level 1, 2, and 3.
Level 16 - 23 can only use level 1, 2, 3, and 4.
Level 24 - 31 can only use level 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5.
Level 32 - 41 can only use level 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6.
Level 42 - 51 can only use level 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7.
Level 52 - 63 can only use level 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8.
Level 64 - 75 same as above
And so on as cap is raised.

this will work better for those who like tryin toO +5 there items before they reach the next degree...

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:19 pm
by Chaby
Wont happen. JoyMax gets money from CCF. So they wont stop it.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:21 pm
by whY-2G
THEN JoyMax should maybe THINK about their REAL players before ..... MONEY ...

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:47 pm
by Brutish1
Bake has said that capping the astrals by level has been talked about a bunch in the SA forum.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:02 pm
by Suppaman
Chaby wrote:Wont happen. JoyMax gets money from CCF. So they wont stop it.


umm how do they get money from it? i mean dont those guys just do chargeback?

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:47 am
by Chaud
Suppaman wrote:
Chaby wrote:Wont happen. JoyMax gets money from CCF. So they wont stop it.


umm how do they get money from it? i mean dont those guys just do chargeback?

Some CC companies still pay JM, I think...

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:01 am
by Suppaman
^^lol really... wow....omg damn JM..

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:53 am
by Silkrose
<-- Won GNGWC

So I can contact him if necessary.[/quote]


Cuchu, i bet you'd be hired one day as one of the GMs when an office in California opens! :D

Btw, going back to topic, yep i thought of that idea too, put level restriction on astral users.

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:34 am
by Zhen
Yeah, they could do it like how you can't use a transport if it's not your level.

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:42 am
by XxpeddyxX
Silkrose wrote:Btw, going back to topic, yep i thought of that idea too, put level restriction on astral users.
Think of how many Turks and Viets that will have heart attacks..

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:43 am
by rabbit
|||-_-, i have bought things 2 degrees in advance..... this wud be problematic for me if the astrals were restricted to only the degree afterwards..... i have a hard time passing up deals ^^

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:52 am
by Zhen
XxpeddyxX wrote:
Silkrose wrote:Btw, going back to topic, yep i thought of that idea too, put level restriction on astral users.
Think of how many Turks and Viets that will have heart attacks..


How many of them actually have +7 weapons? :roll:
Stop trying to blame on ethnic groups, the only thing you can do is say that a lot of Turks like to beg in SRO and I will agree. :oops: :D