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Answer to Black_Manba's post over hacking
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:54 pm
by Ezeckiel
I'm worried as well by this issue and would maybe stop if nothing is done by Joymax to give more confidence to the players in their system
I launch a vote :
Would you stop playing (buying silk) for one month to pressure on Joymaxand have them do something to improve SRO security
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:01 pm
by Troo
I certainly won't charge anything till I know for sure they aren't brute-forcing servers etc. Until I know for sure that my account is save. If it will be 1 month.. so be it.
Infact I'll stop playing at all. It's almost rediculous to continue to play/farm without knowing for sure that your account won't be the next target of those hackers
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:02 pm
by [SD]Master_Wong
they have got sponsers they can cope
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:08 pm
by Th0m@$
no matter what, something needs to be done about this. Its getting rediculos.
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:08 pm
by PsYch008
I am not sure if it would help or not, but i definitely am not spending any more real money on the game until i know i am not going to be the target of a ******... ermm... hacker.
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:54 pm
by Megalomaniac
Ill switch to GW lolz.
And when they have a normal security i might play sro(or at least when the euro update comes lol)
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:08 pm
by Anh_Hung_Rom
Let me go make my picket sign.
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:16 pm
by Skitsefrenik
everybody just admit it, the problem is big because its F2P.
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:20 pm
by [SD]Master_Wong
yup
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:52 pm
by doplertin
i think its a good idea to protest.
maybe if we bought a few globals first to warn everyone and joymax then see if they do anything?
id we stop buying silk all at once - well yeah that could work too.
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:59 pm
by Jay
Higher security meaning what? Less chance of hackers or less chances of botters or both?
I think the security is pretty good on sro, it's better then some other games that don't even have game guard so they can just roam free and do what they want unless a gm catches them, when game guard cahtces most easy bots but doesn't catch all.
One thing i would say they could improve for botters is this, make the bomb's they let people buy a bit more advance for one give them a name of the monster around the place their fighting, secondly make it look almost the same but different so non botters can tell the difference.
Hackers, well no matter how much security you can try put on a game, if theres a professional hacker out there that know's what he's doing a games security isn't gonna stop him, I know people get hacked but I don't see a drastic amount of people getting hacked for them to change the security of sro that much, all they need is more gm's on to catch botters or a easier way to communicate to gm's etc about that as for hackers I dunnu up the security a little bit a giuess.
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:02 pm
by Zhen
doplertin wrote:i think its a good idea to protest.
maybe if we bought a few globals first to warn everyone and joymax then see if they do anything?
id we stop buying silk all at once - well yeah that could work too.
I see the same people everyday advertising their power leveling websites or gold farming sites through globacl chat. The GMs aren't to pay much attention to global chat, because they're too busy doing whatever it is they're doing or are maybe on a different server when you're typing that out.
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:25 pm
by PsYch008
maybe they should just have 1 GM per server. but that will never happen.
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:06 pm
by Ezeckiel
Big majority to do it... others? ? ?
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:16 am
by Crumpets
Truth is why would JM help us? It's always partially yourfauly if you lose your acocutn to a hacker
O and i do protest in globals ... i just get flamed by abotu 300 kids afterwards
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:03 am
by Nyumetsu
not enough people would boycott. in theory, I would if I knew it was going to do anything. it's the thought that counts.
I never buy item mall items anyways. purity
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:21 pm
by drey7000
gameguard!? wth, ive never actually seen any security on that thing! i mean, it hasnt actually stopped hackers from hacking people has it??
i hav been thinking of buying a gold ticket lately but if there will be a protest then screw the ticket, im with u guys....
oh, and there are also a good number of asses that wouldnt want to protest, namely botter and hackers themselves, and as master wong said, they got sponsors...
it would hav to last for more than a month if anything is gonna work...
also, if we needed to boycott for sumthing it should be more GMs.... only 3 gms for 8 or more servers....
i think spamming the SRO site with complaints and threats should do the trick... i mean seriously, a week ago the update said new antibot measures, but i still see botters evrywer!
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:29 pm
by Devotia
Yes, by all means stop playing RIGHT NOW. That way, I'll be able to get into the server.
If you want to force something, have a ton of people all make lvl 1 chars on one server (xian!) and sit in hotan with "JOYMAX DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE HACKING" stalls selling nothing. The server (provided you get more than 5 people) will get clogged faster, Hotan will be clogged, and you'll probably piss off enough people to affect a change.
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:35 pm
by ShizKnight
Anyone else notice that its Black_Manba? Dunno, the man thing just seems funny to me.
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:37 pm
by Megalomaniac
ShizKnight wrote:Anyone else notice that its Black_Manba? Dunno, the man thing just seems funny to me.
I have...lolz
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:09 am
by XxDeceptoRxX
i agree with jm needing to add security but most of the 'hacking' is simply someone finding your info as in
your forum name or screen name for something = account name
and you enter your email on this forum/other forum/profile/etc
[or is the same as your screenname with @yahoo/hotmail/etc.com at the end]
then they simply need to guess the secret answer, if it's like; what's your favorite sports team they can manually brute force all sports teams within a day and boom you're gone same with where were you born, and other easy questions
then there's the brute force program which might get you when you have a simple password like "banana" or somethin
others happen from keylog, sharing accounts, ingame scam, direct connect 'hacking', website virus, etccccc
i doubt someone just hacks the database, it's very unrealistic to me, that's more like the Xian terror where someone spawned Roc or had special clothing from another sro, not stealing accounts imo
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:00 pm
by Jeronimo
completely useless ! JOYMAX didn't have the item mal 4 sum time and 1 month without it wouldn't change ANYTHING !

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:51 pm
by Megalomaniac
XxDeceptoRxX wrote:i agree with jm needing to add security but most of the 'hacking' is simply someone finding your info as in
your forum name or screen name for something = account name
and you enter your email on this forum/other forum/profile/etc
[or is the same as your screenname with @yahoo/hotmail/etc.com at the end]
then they simply need to guess the secret answer, if it's like; what's your favorite sports team they can manually brute force all sports teams within a day and boom you're gone same with where were you born, and other easy questions
then there's the brute force program which might get you when you have a simple password like "banana" or somethin
others happen from keylog, sharing accounts, ingame scam, direct connect 'hacking', website virus, etccccc
i doubt someone just hacks the database, it's very unrealistic to me, that's more like the Xian terror where someone spawned Roc or had special clothing from another sro, not stealing accounts imo
I dont think someone is stupid enough to really type their favorite sports team or whatever.
But the same usernames on different places can really be a problem.
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:28 pm
by Fadex
those powerlevel globals are very strange, U cant pm the sayer, even not 0,1 Milisecond after the global, pretty strange isnt it.
but, I wont charge, but I do would pay powerlevel, since it has nothing to do with the security of SRO, the one who lvls me plays by hand, 100% sure, I know him.
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:19 am
by Ezeckiel
Megalomaniac wrote:ShizKnight wrote:Anyone else notice that its Black_Manba? Dunno, the man thing just seems funny to me.
I have...lolz
I didn't noticed LOL
MaMba, sorry for that