In this thread, I'll post my alchemy attempts with details, and same for everyone, you're welcome to post your alchemy attempts details.
Sun 64 Crossbow Clean Like NPC weapon used: 1 int stone: 5 int 1 str stone: 5 str 1 Master stone: fail 5 attack rate stones: 3 fail, 2 0% 1 phy attack stone: fail 1 critical stone: fail 3 Warriors stones: fail Elixirs used: 76 Got to +3 11 times Got to +4 2 times
PS: when I had 3 elixirs in my inventory, and decided to get it to +3 only, I failed 4 times, although i was getting +3 pretty easy before, so bought alot of elixirs, and had an astral stone in storage, put it in my inventory, then got to +4 twice, first time used lucky, second time didn't, then failed at +4 again so made it +3 after wasting 42m.
Keep the thread going and post yours.
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:27 am
by jyushinshuu
sound's pretty normal to me. I even failed 15consecutives times with str stone. and wasted around 400mil worth of prot elixirs until I finally got my Nova to +5.
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:58 am
by THE_ZUL
i failed with 60 elixirs to +4 my shirt b4. the next day i wake up, then made it to +4 using 4 elixirs straight.
no prem.no lucky avatar. Alchemy is a weird shit.
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:25 am
by Vaya
^about alchemy weirdness, I don't think that it's 100% random. it has its own pattern that was made to phuck you up.
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:53 am
by XMoshe
Worst for me was 250-300 elixers for +5 on a frikkin ring. Also had like 8 fails in a row and more like that crap.
And well no offense mate but I don't really see the use for this thread hehe :/
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:19 am
by Braka
XMoshe wrote:Worst for me was 250-300 elixers for +5 on a frikkin ring. Also had like 8 fails in a row and more like that crap.
And well no offense mate but I don't really see the use for this thread hehe :/
there could be a use for it but ppl are just commenting instead of doing there own alchmery log in there post kinda defeats the purpose if its messed up with comments
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:10 pm
by XMoshe
Braka wrote:
XMoshe wrote:Worst for me was 250-300 elixers for +5 on a frikkin ring. Also had like 8 fails in a row and more like that crap.
And well no offense mate but I don't really see the use for this thread hehe :/
there could be a use for it but ppl are just commenting instead of doing there own alchmery log in there post kinda defeats the purpose if its messed up with comments
What use is there for alchemy logs of random people? o.O
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:58 pm
by Braka
XMoshe wrote:
Braka wrote:
XMoshe wrote:Worst for me was 250-300 elixers for +5 on a frikkin ring. Also had like 8 fails in a row and more like that crap.
And well no offense mate but I don't really see the use for this thread hehe :/
there could be a use for it but ppl are just commenting instead of doing there own alchmery log in there post kinda defeats the purpose if its messed up with comments
What use is there for alchemy logs of random people? o.O
it is self logs to check back it looks more like , if each person just has 1 post for each item or w/e it might work..
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:31 pm
by Vaya
XMoshe wrote:
Braka wrote:
XMoshe wrote:Worst for me was 250-300 elixers for +5 on a frikkin ring. Also had like 8 fails in a row and more like that crap.
And well no offense mate but I don't really see the use for this thread hehe :/
there could be a use for it but ppl are just commenting instead of doing there own alchmery log in there post kinda defeats the purpose if its messed up with comments
What use is there for alchemy logs of random people? o.O
for example if someone is making +7 for the first time, he can take a look here, see the average cost and the highest etc. , so he could know his chances more.
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:48 pm
by firefinal1
No offense but you got LUCKY actually..
2x +4 within 100 elixers is something that never happens to me .
I have spend almost 200 elixers getting +4 =D and succeeded 1x.. greed took over tried +5 and failed =D
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:52 pm
by Goseki
Found Nova Necklace Clean in Consignment for 200m. Went to storage, took out 5 acc elixirs. 0,1,2,3,4,5.
Friend gave me +3 Nova Earrings he found. 3,0,1,2,3,4,5.
Best 2 accessories I've ever owned lol.
ooo My SUPER LUCKY +10 making friend found a 52 sos shield no immortal but kept failing +3 After 100m of shield elixirs, he gave up and gave it to me. 0,1,2,3,0,1,2,3,4,5,6.
Prob the 3 easiest items I've ever plussed.
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:54 pm
by The Invisible
Spoiler!
Credits go for : RenamonFOX
Through hours (and billions of gold) in testing, I've come up with a spreadsheet that chronicles the success and fail rate of intensifying elixirs when used on items. All tests include Premium (5% bonus to success with elixirs), and use Lucky Powders (bought from jewel lapidary/grocery trader)
Keep in mind that "Elixirs req" is only an ESTIMATE. Statistics is a cruel mistress. I once spent 41 elixirs just trying to get a piece of equipment up to +3.
To make a +0 weapon +1. Attempts: 80 (This is how many times I've personally done this test) Successes: 80 (This is how many times I've succeeded getting to +1, +2, etc) Failures: 0 (This is how many times I've failed getting to +1, +2, etc.) Success rate: 100% (This is the chance of success of getting to +1) Elixirs req: 1 (This is the average amount of elixirs required to get from +0 to whichever bonus this is) Avg cost weapon: 300,000 (This is how much is costs to go from +0 to +X if weapon elixirs are 300k on your server. scale up or down accordingly) Avg cost armor: 200,000(This is how much is costs to go from +0 to +X if protector elixirs are 200k on your server. scale up or down accordingly) Avg cost shield: 100,000(This is how much is costs to go from +0 to +X if Shield elixirs are 100k on your server. scale up or down accordingly) Avg cost access: 70,000(This is how much is costs to go from +0 to +X if accessory elixirs are 300k on your server. scale up or down accordingly)
To make a +1 weapon +2. Attempts: 80 Successes: 58 Failures: 22 Success rate: 72.5% Elixirs req: 2.75 Avg cost weapon: 827,586 Avg cost armor: 551,724 Avg cost shield: 275,862 Avg cost access: 193,103 Chance to get +0 to +2 in two elixirs: 72.5%
To make a +2 weapon +3 Attempts: 58 Successes: 28 Failures: 30 Success rate: 48.2% Elixirs req: 7.78 Avg cost weapon: 2,335,714 Avg cost armor: 1,557,143 Avg cost shield: 778,571 Avg cost access: 575,000 Chance to get +0 to +3 in three elixirs: 35%
To make a +3 weapon +4 Attempts: 30 Successes: 9 Failures: 21 Success rate: 30% Elixirs req: 27.56 Avg cost weapon: 8,266,667 Avg cost armor: 5,511,111 Avg cost shield: 2,755,556 Avg cost Access: 1,928,889 Chance to get +0 to +4 in four elixirs: 10.5%
To make a +4 weapon +5 (needs more testing) Attempts: 7 Successes: 2 Failures: 5 Success rate: 28.5% Elixirs req: 127.5 Avg cost weapon: 38,250,000 Avg cost armor: 25,500,000 Avg cost shield: 12,750,000 Avg cost accessory: 8,925,000 Chance to get +0 to +5 in five elixirs: 3% (good luck)
Good Luck ....
But I would stop at +3 if i were you .
Alchemy is all about luck and how much you are ready to pay .
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:59 pm
by Castiel
The first day i got my sun staff i spent over 100m trying to plus it and it just wouldnt go past +3. I waited a couple of days and it went straight to +6. Alchemy is such a bitch at times.
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:02 pm
by The Invisible
Castiel wrote:The first day i got my sun staff i spent over 100m trying to plus it and it just wouldnt go past +3. I waited a couple of days and it went straight to +6. Alchemy is such a bitch at times.
Yeah i know , that's why i don't do alchemy a lot .
and as i said : "Alchemy is all about luck and how much you are ready to pay"
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:38 pm
by BuDo
I would only be throwing that much resources on my weapon and gear at cap level. It's a waste to do otherwise.
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:27 pm
by Peachy
I've given up on alchemy after the following: -Fail +2 8 times (with lucky powders) -Prematurely rondoing my SoM -Assimilating every single white back to 0% -Failing countless times with stones -Always getting the lowest blue if I even succeed. -Managing to drop only important things when I die.
I just have other people do my gear. I'm an epic fail, and there are several people who can vouch for me.
And I agree with BuDo... I Don't think I'll really get into it until I'm close to cap or somewhere I'm going to be for a long time.
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:12 pm
by XMoshe
Peachy wrote:I've given up on alchemy after the following: -Fail +2 8 times (with lucky powders) Happened to me countless times, the more you +, the more often it will happen. -Prematurely rondoing my SoM That never happened to me, tough luck man but in all honesty something that could've been prevented. -Assimilating every single white back to 0% Everyone has had this happen to them atleast once, nothing new. -Failing countless times with stones Same for this, I think my record is 10 in a row. -Always getting the lowest blue if I even succeed. This is totally random but I know how you feel. -Managing to drop only important things when I die. In the million times I died I probably dropped one thing lol, unless it was during delvl while farming.
I just have other people do my gear. I'm an epic fail, and there are several people who can vouch for me.
And I agree with BuDo... I Don't think I'll really get into it until I'm close to cap or somewhere I'm going to be for a long time.
I know alchemy is a bitch but all those things with the exception of one or two are no exception to the average alchemier (or how ever you wanna spell it).
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:00 am
by Peachy
XMoshe wrote:
Peachy wrote:I've given up on alchemy after the following: -Fail +2 8 times (with lucky powders) Happened to me countless times, the more you +, the more often it will happen. -Prematurely rondoing my SoM That never happened to me, tough luck man but in all honesty something that could've been prevented. -Assimilating every single white back to 0% Everyone has had this happen to them atleast once, nothing new. -Failing countless times with stones Same for this, I think my record is 10 in a row. -Always getting the lowest blue if I even succeed. This is totally random but I know how you feel. -Managing to drop only important things when I die. In the million times I died I probably dropped one thing lol, unless it was during delvl while farming.
I just have other people do my gear. I'm an epic fail, and there are several people who can vouch for me.
And I agree with BuDo... I Don't think I'll really get into it until I'm close to cap or somewhere I'm going to be for a long time.
I know alchemy is a bitch but all those things with the exception of one or two are no exception to the average alchemier (or how ever you wanna spell it).
Perhaps you're right, but still......who "accidentally" rondos their sealed weapon? xD I would do that to myself if I could.
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:14 am
by Revi
I like the thread/subject, I think everyone can enjoy sharing their successes/failures, the feeling can make you feel better and stimulate the urge for doing it again
thought I'd +3 it and sell it for a decent price..
Spent about 50 sh elixirs but never made it, even +2 failed so much, couldn't believe it, this never happened to me, usually I get to +3 with two tries max, so I left it at +1 and decided to try again another day
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:43 am
by The Invisible
Revi wrote:I like the thread/subject, I think everyone can enjoy sharing their successes/failures, the feeling can make you feel better and stimulate the urge for doing it again
thought I'd +3 it and sell it for a decent price..
Spent about 50 sh elixirs but never made it, even +2 failed so much, couldn't believe it, this never happened to me, usually I get to +3 with two tries max, so I left it at +1 and decided to try again another day
Where is the end of the story ?
And that another day never came or i succesed later .
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:38 am
by Gladiator_RN
i once spend 900 million gold on buying protector elixirs for a stupid seal of moon chest.
900 million / 190k.
you make the count.
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:39 pm
by evaldaskowka
I can't make mine +5, +3 is hard enough ^^
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:41 pm
by Revi
The Invisible wrote:
Revi wrote:I like the thread/subject, I think everyone can enjoy sharing their successes/failures, the feeling can make you feel better and stimulate the urge for doing it again
thought I'd +3 it and sell it for a decent price..
Spent about 50 sh elixirs but never made it, even +2 failed so much, couldn't believe it, this never happened to me, usually I get to +3 with two tries max, so I left it at +1 and decided to try again another day
Where is the end of the story ?
And that another day never came or i succesed later .
The 'another day' is today, I went camping yesterday so skipped that one.
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:42 pm
by Vaya
Got +8 twice today, ended up with no weapon at all
Level 94 staff +6 +7 Destroyed
9D Sun+5 staff Destroyed with the first +6 attempt
85+5 staff +6 +7 +8 +0 ...+7 then destroyed
76 NPC staff +1... +5 after a few tries then back to 0 then all the way up to+8 then boom, destroyed.
Re: Alchemy Log
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:40 pm
by DinoNuggets
immortal for future reference ? lol
85 bow+12
started out +9 with +1 adv elixer got bored +10 hell im not archer anymore lets try +11 Boom +11 meh everyone has +12 why not me? +12 woot i do now *sells* xD
I would do that to myself if I could.