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Idea for new servers
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 1:02 am
by KillAndChill
New servers start with a 60 cap and raise it every so many months.
Includes:
-Nostalgia
-Botting will happen, but will not be necessary
-More silk spent at lower levels so corporate is happy
Won't happen but it would make me play again. If someone already thought of this, then
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 1:30 am
by Tasdik
Since when is botting ever "necessary"?
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 1:36 am
by TheDrop
60 can be hit in like a month w/ a chinese char legitly.
With euro partying, like 2 weeks (prolly less)
But then again there are always dumbfcks that party at pegs when they are 7x and chinese who dont know what quests are.
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:13 am
by KillAndChill
Tasdik wrote:Since when is botting ever "necessary"?
You're taking my use of the word necessary too seriously.
I meant that the highest level wont take years to get while playing legit. This would hopefully encourage the botters to play the game instead of botting.
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:18 am
by _Dutchy_
KillAndChill wrote:Tasdik wrote:Since when is botting ever "necessary"?
You're taking my use of the word necessary too seriously.
I meant that the highest level wont take years to get while playing legit. This would hopefully encourage the botters to play the game instead of botting.
Botters are lazy and love to cheat you really think they would stop botting ? even if the cap was lvl 30 they would bot thats how they are kids...
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:18 am
by Tasdik
I hit 95 in less than 2 months. Ain't that hard.
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 5:39 am
by BuDo
Tasdik wrote:I hit 95 in less than 2 months. Ain't that hard.
You talking about isro? and also does that include the time it takes to farm SP? I highly doubt it.
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:10 am
by firefinal1
BuDo wrote:Tasdik wrote:I hit 95 in less than 2 months. Ain't that hard.
You talking about isro? and also does that include the time it takes to farm SP? I highly doubt it.
Taxi time? ^^
PS: Even 24/7 bots wont hit 95 within 2months. ^^
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 10:01 am
by Kronos
_Dutchy_ wrote:KillAndChill wrote:Tasdik wrote:Since when is botting ever "necessary"?
You're taking my use of the word necessary too seriously.
I meant that the highest level wont take years to get while playing legit. This would hopefully encourage the botters to play the game instead of botting.
Botters are lazy and love to cheat you really think they would stop botting ? even if the cap was lvl 30 they would bot thats how they are kids...
Yea this. There are lots of people, who even bot on 30x-rates servers. So do you really think they would stop botting, if you just lower the cap? I doubt it.
firefinal1 wrote:BuDo wrote:Tasdik wrote:I hit 95 in less than 2 months. Ain't that hard.
You talking about isro? and also does that include the time it takes to farm SP? I highly doubt it.
Taxi time? ^^
PS: Even 24/7 bots wont hit 95 within 2months. ^^
24/7 bots are slower than legits, if that legits know how to play and play every day for around 3 hours (with premium + that is). Unfortunately as legits you sometimes have days, when some people of your pt are busy or people are quitting or turning bot. Then you have to look for new pt members or help lower people in your guild/union to catch up, which might take a while. And if you play in a legit pt with a fixed set of people, where you have 1 certain role (for example wizard only), it's enough to take only 1 mastery and maybe a sub tree to assist the pt with ress, bless, RD, etc. You'll save a lot time like that, but you won't be as flexible for pting and not as good in PVP either. I prefer the slower way (and i don't use premium +) and farm a bit more to get both my masteries FF. The result is that i can be both Warrior and Cleric in pts, which makes me a very valuable pt member, since i can be cleric, if there are already 2 warriors in the pt and warrior, if there is only 1 warrior.
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:11 pm
by The Invisible
24/7 bots are slower than active legits as they don't have the brain to survive in mobs thier level or higher .
So they just grind on green/blue mobs .
There are few exceptions but that's the general case .
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:16 pm
by IceCrash
yeah, you're very valuable, having everyone outlvl u
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 1:08 pm
by You_Dead_Yet
lol bots can auto heal and auto buff for years now, so no 24/7 bots are not slower than legits anymore. There is even bots that can lure mobs as warrior.
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:00 pm
by Kronos
IceCrash wrote:yeah, you're very valuable, having everyone outlvl u
I have no problems finding pts for my lv. range. Currently i am Lv. 83 warrior/cleric and i mainly pt at lv.100/101 monsters. You need a complete lv.95+ pt anyway to move on to higher level monsters. Most people, who are higher level than me are either using Premium or used it before. So i am actually quite satisfied with what i reached until now. And i really hate it to play with an underfarmed character.
You_Dead_Yet wrote:lol bots can auto heal and auto buff for years now, so no 24/7 bots are not slower than legits anymore. There is even bots that can lure mobs as warrior.
Ye, i am aware of that. But so far i haven't seen a bot pt that lured as much and as fast as our usual legit pts. Then again, bot pts seem to wipe quite a lot. You just open 2 pillars on them and they are down lol. At least that's my impression of the bot pts on Azteca. Bots have the advantage of being online and pting 24/7. But in terms of %/hour legits are a lot faster for sure. With prem+ and pting around 3 hours a day you can be just as fast or even faster than 24/7 bots. Just because bots can heal, buff and lure, it doesn't make them smart and organized.
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:00 pm
by hey
keeeeeeeeeeeeep dreaming
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:54 pm
by Tasdik
firefinal1 wrote:BuDo wrote:Tasdik wrote:I hit 95 in less than 2 months. Ain't that hard.
You talking about isro? and also does that include the time it takes to farm SP? I highly doubt it.
Taxi time? ^^
PS: Even 24/7 bots wont hit 95 within 2months. ^^
Lol, who the hell would plvl me? No bottards were high enough to actually plvl.
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:56 pm
by boast
KillAndChill wrote:Includes:
-Nostalgia
hahahahaha!!!!!
I wonder why I don't remember the asians being like the turks/egys now a days (before they got their own tsro/vsro/etc...)
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 9:19 pm
by XMoshe
The Invisible wrote:24/7 bots are slower than active legits as they don't have the brain to survive in mobs thier level or higher .
So they just grind on green/blue mobs .
There are few exceptions but that's the general case .
Goldbots yeah, normal player bots usually have no problem surviving their lvl mobs or even orange mobs. I know even of enough 24/7 euro parties on red mobs that work just fine.
Not to forget a legit is indeed faster when he grinds. But a bot that can go 24/7 will outlvl a legit that does 3 hour a day anytime.
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 10:49 pm
by The Invisible
XMoshe wrote:The Invisible wrote:24/7 bots are slower than active legits as they don't have the brain to survive in mobs thier level or higher .
So they just grind on green/blue mobs .
There are few exceptions but that's the general case .
Goldbots yeah, normal player bots usually have no problem surviving their lvl mobs or even orange mobs. I know even of enough 24/7 euro parties on red mobs that work just fine.
Not to forget a legit is indeed faster when he grinds. But a bot that can go 24/7 will outlvl a legit that does 3 hour a day anytime.
A 8 man Bot party with 8 attackers (wizards or nukers) only won't outlevel legits , but a bot party with warriors , bards , clerics , wizards , maybe a warlock , can outlevel them .
Didn't want to say it this way at first but that's how it goes .
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 11:19 pm
by XMoshe
The Invisible wrote:XMoshe wrote:The Invisible wrote:24/7 bots are slower than active legits as they don't have the brain to survive in mobs thier level or higher .
So they just grind on green/blue mobs .
There are few exceptions but that's the general case .
Goldbots yeah, normal player bots usually have no problem surviving their lvl mobs or even orange mobs. I know even of enough 24/7 euro parties on red mobs that work just fine.
Not to forget a legit is indeed faster when he grinds. But a bot that can go 24/7 will outlvl a legit that does 3 hour a day anytime.
A 8 man Bot party with 8 attackers (wizards or nukers) only won't outlevel legits , but a bot party with warriors , bards , clerics , wizards , maybe a warlock , can outlevel them .
Didn't want to say it this way at first but that's how it goes .
Ofcourse I mean a functioning party with buffers and even lurers. Shamefully they already exist now lol
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 1:43 am
by Bananaman
XMoshe wrote:...
but even so, on a server that starts at 60 cap, botters wouldnt be botting long, and then a few thigns would happen:
1)legits would catch up and becuase they know how to play the game as a team (euro) or simply know their characters better (chinese) legits will rape non legits easily
2)botters become bored untill the new cap comes out, meaning they play less resulting in #1
3)most people will begin to realize that it really isnt worth it to bot ten levels every few months
4) gms can more efficiently ban botters manually as there will be less space to cover.
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 1:56 am
by IceCrash
ofc it works but, what i mean is, when u're high lvl enough to pt at the highest pts or w.e, doesn't make much of a diff cause it takes long to lvl anyways
but when u're low lvl u can't really afford to do tht or u'll never pt with the same ppl, they'll outlvled u, it won't be good
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:17 am
by XMoshe
Bananaman wrote:XMoshe wrote:...
but even so, on a server that starts at 60 cap, botters wouldnt be botting long, and then a few thigns would happen:
1)legits would catch up and becuase they know how to play the game as a team (euro) or simply know their characters better (chinese) legits will rape non legits easily
2)botters become bored untill the new cap comes out, meaning they play less resulting in #1
3)most people will begin to realize that it really isnt worth it to bot ten levels every few months
4) gms can more efficiently ban botters manually as there will be less space to cover.
I disagree but I'm gonna shut up now =]
And damn your sig! haha
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 2:11 pm
by iztupido
My dream of a server is cap 70 with chinese only and no snow shield. To me, there was nothing like it.
Re: Idea for new servers
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 3:48 pm
by THE_ZUL
new server EgypTurks
- they can scamming each other