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Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 11:21 pm
by The Invisible
Now you can't attack someone that is in an invisible state , it gives you an invalid target error .
Even if you are able to see them with pk2 , you are not able to attack them .

It may not be a perfect update but it is a good step for joymax .

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 11:22 pm
by IceCrash
woopedifuckingdoo years later

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 11:58 pm
by XMoshe
IceCrash wrote:woopedifuckingdoo years later


Lol idd, better late than never I guess. Would've helped me alot of times though if they implemented it sooner xD Guess they're learning new codes ;]

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 4:37 am
by BuDo
If it takes a special skill to spot someone in stealth mode then you should be able to attack them.....I like the way it was before....so that skill in the fire tree mastery that reveals someone in stealth is a joke now?

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 4:44 am
by _Dutchy_
BuDo wrote:If it takes a special skill to spot someone in stealth mode then you should be able to attack them.....I like the way it was before....so that skill in the fire tree mastery that reveals someone in stealth is a joke now?


Those still work i believe

What the fixed is a bug and the PK2 Hack the bots seem to love aka just seeing poepel invisi without using detect skills... When using detect skill you can just attack them normaly

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 9:42 am
by The Invisible
The only way to attack someone in invisible now is by revealing him with a skill or a potion and only when he is in the skill range .

Even if you are still targeting the character after it goes invisible , you can't attack it and get an invalid target error [ same goes for stealth , i guess ] .

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 11:43 am
by apan
This is very nice indeed. But now they'll just run up to you (because they can still see you) and use a potion and BAM!

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 1:46 pm
by JuelzSantana
doesnt matter, u can still select them right? so when u see that whack red circle come around them just throw on mana shield and laugh as they walk back to the safe zone

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 3:00 pm
by TheDrop
apan wrote:This is very nice indeed. But now they'll just run up to you (because they can still see you) and use a potion and BAM!

Much better than if you can just select them and attack, lol

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 3:33 pm
by apan
JuelzSantana wrote:doesnt matter, u can still select them right? so when u see that whack red circle come around them just throw on mana shield and laugh as they walk back to the safe zone

Are you saying that you use the pk2 edit?

And for the other post, potions aren't that expensive to buy ^^

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 5:15 pm
by The Invisible
Correct me if i am wrong but IIRC You can't select them anymore even if you can see them with pk2 , only able to select them when they are revealed with a potion or a skill .

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 6:24 pm
by apan
The Invisible wrote:Correct me if i am wrong but IIRC You can't select them anymore even if you can see them with pk2 , only able to select them when they are revealed with a potion or a skill .

I think you're right, because it doesn't matter if you can see him. Otherwise you could just have pressed Shift+Mouse1 and spam all around you until you got him as a target.

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:22 am
by JuelzSantana
apan wrote:
JuelzSantana wrote:doesnt matter, u can still select them right? so when u see that whack red circle come around them just throw on mana shield and laugh as they walk back to the safe zone

Are you saying that you use the pk2 edit?

And for the other post, potions aren't that expensive to buy ^^


are you asking me to admit to something so you can play rent-a-cop and report me?

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:07 am
by XMoshe
apan wrote:
JuelzSantana wrote:doesnt matter, u can still select them right? so when u see that whack red circle come around them just throw on mana shield and laugh as they walk back to the safe zone

Are you saying that you use the pk2 edit?

And for the other post, potions aren't that expensive to buy ^^


50k each is pretty expensive for something that lasts 15 secs and has a shitty as range IMO o.O Compared to what most people have in gold now it's nothing ofcourse but yeah...

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 11:48 am
by jaksje
i have never eva bought those stupid pilss XD ridiculous range and i always seem to have a build with detect so ^^

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 1:59 pm
by TheDrop
apan wrote:
JuelzSantana wrote:doesnt matter, u can still select them right? so when u see that whack red circle come around them just throw on mana shield and laugh as they walk back to the safe zone

Are you saying that you use the pk2 edit?

And for the other post, potions aren't that expensive to buy ^^

yeah but in a group pvp..you will be hit before you can get close to them to use pills ;p

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 3:56 am
by William-CL
Such a simple Fix. And it took them how long? 2 fucking long.

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 6:34 am
by aishsharma
Before fix: go invis/not->w8 for ppl to come to u->kill.
Now: go invis/not->w8 for ppl to come to u->use pill/skill->kill.

So pro JM

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 1:21 pm
by penfold1992
invis is mainly useful to wizzies... so you follow a wizziie in invis, as soon as they come out and start charging a nuke, its very simple to quick target and kill them.

oh and i think there is a way to pk2 edit it so they are attackable... which sucks. invis isnt server side im sure :S

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 3:54 pm
by The Invisible
Invisible is now server sided (not sure if it was client sided before) .
But the invisible showing pk2 is client sided , so they can't change it much afaik .

My point is you can never be attacked anymore when you are in invisible and there isn't a pk2 that can change that .

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 5:10 pm
by CeLL
invis was client side. not real sure anymore. it was basically that they activated the skill and it gave the character a different skin, like when you zerk. if i recall from the vids i have seen they simply replaced the invisible "skin" with zerk or something so invisible people looked zerked.
im really proud of joymax's recent belated issues that they have worked on. makes me glad i returned.

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 10:28 pm
by The Invisible
Others used to change the invisible skin that you can't see to that skin that looked like invisible that is revealed with a skill , which removes confusion of someone using zerk that you "should" avoid when he is near your level (if you know what i mean) .

Btw I am now quite sure that invisible is server sided .

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 2:25 am
by William-CL
It IS server Sided now, but the Visual effects are still Client side. They made it just like Skill Damage/Skill Visuals. Can't edit damage, but you can change the way it looks. Same concept.

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 3:41 am
by penfold1992
today i was in BA and i got killed by a chinese nuker with bicheon cold and light. he was able to target me in invis and also nuke me. when i asked him how he was able to see me he said it was just a glitch... so either there is still a way to kill invis people or there really is a glitch to view people invisible.

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 11:22 am
by The Invisible
You sure you weren't revealed with a skill ?

If it only happened once then , it is not a big deal but if he attacked you multiple times , then it is weird .

Btw you can get attacked by sprint assault or any other quick attack while you are casting invisible but something like fire bolt is not fast enough and will be canceled , But if you are already in invisible for +5 seconds and someone attacks then he is using a bug or a glitch .

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 12:53 pm
by William-CL
You know it was probably a splash glitch it it was a Light nuke that hit you. That would make sense. Bounced off of someone else and you were too close

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 12:59 pm
by CeLL
penfold1992 wrote:today i was in BA and i got killed by a chinese nuker with bicheon cold and light. he was able to target me in invis and also nuke me. when i asked him how he was able to see me he said it was just a glitch... so either there is still a way to kill invis people or there really is a glitch to view people invisible.

you know there are reveal skills for the whole party...

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 3:08 pm
by penfold1992
nope i was holding the flag at our door, there was no1 around me at all appart from 1 person from my team.
he came into view and just ran right up to me and casted a nuke and killed me, no skill nothing. he was the only person in that team that killed me in invis, if it was a group reveal i would be killed by others.

he did it multiple times with the same circumstances using ice nuke that you get at 30.

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 3:19 pm
by CeLL
o well.

Re: Invisible and Stealth got fixed

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 9:01 pm
by The Invisible
At least if there is such a glitch , it is not a known one .

But it does seem odd since invisible is server sided .