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Best char for group PVP

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:06 pm
by scyther
Hi guys! :)

I want to make an new char. Specially for group PVP(Battle arena). In the most topic's I read that warrior/cleric is the most prefer. But is that the best for group PVP? Or there other some good chars for group PVP?

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:18 pm
by Gladiator_RN
for PVP?

Warrior/Warlock STR
Rogue/Warlock STR
Warlock/cleric hybrid INT

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:24 pm
by scyther
yes, group pvp like battle arena.

Why you recommended warlock?

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:51 pm
by Gladiator_RN
scyther wrote:yes, group pvp like battle arena.

Why you recommended warlock?

because it is the pvp build.
(it only cost a shitload of SP and is hard to lvl with)

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:10 pm
by Mupf9
If you just want to play group pvp and not 1on1 dont make the warlock hybrid... If you never play, a Pure Int is better. Your dmg is just higher... Why should you waste DMG for some Hp you dont need.
Im only playing group pvp with my warlock. Just 104 now, Pure int and FF. EQ is son wl rod, +8 shield, and +4/+5 eq. Its enough. I dont get attacked very often. Most people more concentrate on other guys than me.
And if, I have warrior buffs, cleric buffs, minimum one tambour and healing once I lose hp.
Ofc better with a full euro group which I have.

Once Im fully buffed, I have 22k HP with DS and Premium+ and I still need HP and STR on my set. At 110 Ill have much more hp... :)

And ya, would also recommend Warlock/Cleric for Group PvP. Once your full farmed, you do very nice with debuffs, stun, sleep etc. Your lucky if you just fight chinese chars without Holy Spell, they die very fast.

Other characters I would take for group PvP are Bowers, for knock down, your ranged so your not the first one getting attacked.
Warrior/Cleric
Rogue/Cleric
Best are Sub Clerics cause you often need absolute dmg to kill guys who are fully buffed by a warrior with screens. Cause its absolute you also own with it as Pure STR.

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:45 pm
by ZaKnighT
WARRIOR WARRIOR WARRIOR WARRIOR / CLRIC CLRIC CLRIC

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:52 pm
by Gladiator_RN
Oh group PVP? my bad.
For group pvp joymax made 1 perfect build: warrior/cleric.
High damage, tank abilities, skins, screens, buffs, heals, ect ect ect.

For 1 versus 1 is warlock still tha king :P

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:06 pm
by S3by
Bard/Cleric ,u will shine in party like the sun on the sky in a hot summer day .

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:21 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
S3by wrote:Bard/Cleric ,u will shine in party like the sun on the sky in a hot summer day .


the shining part is only when noone attacks you,
not much action with that build unless you are full buffed

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:35 pm
by William-CL
Pure STR Wizard / Bard

Srsly though, Warlock is a class I hardly see anymore, ppl find it easier to bot with a wiz I guess >.> oops slip of the tongue.

Warrior/Cleric <-- Overused for a reason, It's great.

Rogue/Cleric or Bard <-- under appreciated cause it's amazing. especially against Wiz cause it has more range than them with their strongest attack which can 1shot pure Int easy if they spam LC which wiz always do in pvp.

Warlock/Cleric. Cleric helps with LA and bless adds to the annoyance of a Lock. Stun and Sleep are good for interrupting wiz and then blood/death flower can 1shot em pretty easy. dots won't hurt either. Dots are needed for a Warrior to make your job much easier.

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:29 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
Blackdragon6 wrote:Rogue/Cleric or Bard <-- under appreciated cause it's amazing. especially against Wiz cause it has more range than them with their strongest attack which can 1shot pure Int easy if they spam LC which wiz always do in pvp.


distance shot and hurricane shot deal incredible damage with xbow extreme, with crit it is high enough to kill full str guys with fb +5/6/7 armor

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:28 am
by pizzagirl2008
u guys all recommend stuff probably based off your own chars :banghead:

OTP: so what "ROLE" do you exactly want to be in the group pvp...because "Best" is a very generic term and there really isnt one

you want to be a tanker -> warrior/[whatever]
you want to be aoe king -> wizard/cleric or wizard/bard
you want to be dps -> rogue/[whatever]
you want to be disabler -> warlock/cleric

it's your pick after you decide what you want to be. :)

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:06 am
by William-CL
pizzagirl2008 wrote:u guys all recommend stuff probably based off your own chars :banghead:

OTP: so what "ROLE" do you exactly want to be in the group pvp...because "Best" is a very generic term and there really isnt one

you want to be a tanker -> warrior/[whatever]
you want to be aoe king -> wizard/cleric or wizard/bard
you want to be dps -> rogue/[whatever]
you want to be disabler -> warlock/cleric

it's your pick after you decide what you want to be. :)

How can we recommend something unless we've played it >.>
Oh yea DPS ? this is not wow.. tanker? still not wow.. Warrior isn't gonna tank more than 2 nukes from a LC wiz(with shit gear) or a Rogue without sox or awesome cleric heals.

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:15 am
by pizzagirl2008
Blackdragon6 wrote:Warrior isn't gonna tank more than 2 nukes from a LC wiz(with shit gear) or a Rogue without sox or awesome cleric heals.


lol he said battle arena aka group pvp. stop thinking about 1v1s...you're obviously gonna have buffs from fellow euros - most often than not there will be at least 1 subcleric in your team.

if you have buffs with bless and still cant survive 2 nukes? delete char pls...

even with full sons, you aint gonna survive 2 nukes from a LC wiz regardless :palm:

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:54 am
by jyushinshuu
pure int chinese archer!!

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 4:44 am
by reyvenb
Group PvP.. go for Wizard/Cleric, very high damage and AoE.. All you need is a 1 good warrior and 1 Bard in your party. You will be very fine.

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:53 am
by William-CL
pizzagirl2008 wrote:
Blackdragon6 wrote:Warrior isn't gonna tank more than 2 nukes from a LC wiz(with shit gear) or a Rogue without sox or awesome cleric heals.


if you have buffs with bless and still cant survive 2 nukes? delete char pls...
even with full sons, you aint gonna survive 2 nukes from a LC wiz regardless :palm:

You didn't specify warrior/cleric. you said warrior/whatever so bless wasn't my first thought >.>
With skins though he could survive em.
Light/Ice Bolt can be survived if you wanna get technical :sohappy:

Little side note, I see so many warriors getting owned by Wiz outside Sm because they don't Sprint and they don't Skin >.> Do you warriors not find Stun/knockback useful?

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 1:48 pm
by Bleed4Me
warlock is the shit in group pvp worthless with holy spel/holy word or did that change already?

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 1:51 pm
by Mupf9
No.
But no, Warlock is very useful in group pvp. Stun and Sleep ignore Holy Spell and if your spamming debuffs any of them does work.
I play Warlock/Cleric myself and it does help alot. And if you find an enemy that isnt buffed hes dead in some secs... Lot of chn arent buffed... :)
And stun helps alot for the rest of group.

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:11 pm
by Bleed4Me
i would realy be suprised if your fighting in a party with 8 vs 8 or somethat that u dont got a holy spel on

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:21 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
Bleed4Me wrote:i would realy be suprised if your fighting in a party with 8 vs 8 or somethat that u dont got a holy spel on


even in fort wars many groups don't have it on because most of them rush in with bless on or cast it when they feel it is needed.
Warlocks easily clear off any people who don't have it and even with holy word on, 2 tanks with the scream mask buff on are annoying as hell :sohappy:

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:34 pm
by Mupf9
Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote: 2 tanks with the scream mask buff on are annoying as hell :sohappy:


ya or just a rogue with it who spams scorn on ppl... full buffed ofc. ;P

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:43 pm
by LaCe
support char like bard cleric or bard warlock!

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:37 am
by evilhannuman
pure intel spear???
there not so bad pvp are they.....
are europeans overpowered???

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:48 am
by gehaste
IMO Group pvp :
First of all : Euro ! not chinese.
Chinese can handle partying but aren't ment for it like the euros are.

So :
Rogue : It's nice imo.Nice dmg,won't die so easy like wiz do.Versatile.But i don't find it too much of a party playing build since all you can do with it is kill and eventualy be killed.
Warrior : I think is one of the most important parts of group pvping : Support char(buffs),tanker + it can deal some damage as well.If fully buffed then it kind of rullz.It will give you an awsome feeling or at least it does for me.
Wiz : Clearly dmg dealer.You will die a lot but if you play it right you're gonna drag some people with you.
Warlock : dunno,never played it but i find it cool.It helps but i find it boring.
Cleric/Bard : Clearly support classes.Every party will need those but it's kind of boring to just stand there and buff.But i'd pick cleric as a second class.

SO IMO : Warrior/Cleric is the way to go.

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:57 am
by scyther
Thanks for all the comments guys! :)

And how about warrior/rogue?

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:21 am
by Mupf9
Thats more for 1on1 pvp.
Simple reason: You cant ress, so your not needed in a group. Everyone would prefer a Warrior/Cleric or a Rogue/Cleric over you...

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:33 pm
by omier
Bard cleric is the best. That build is very much needed in a group.

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:20 pm
by ltsune
gehaste wrote:IMO Group pvp :
First of all : Euro ! not chinese.
Chinese can handle partying but aren't ment for it like the euros are.

So :
Rogue : It's nice imo.Nice dmg,won't die so easy like wiz do.Versatile.But i don't find it too much of a party playing build since all you can do with it is kill and eventualy be killed.
Warrior : I think is one of the most important parts of group pvping : Support char(buffs),tanker + it can deal some damage as well.If fully buffed then it kind of rullz.It will give you an awsome feeling or at least it does for me.
Wiz : Clearly dmg dealer.You will die a lot but if you play it right you're gonna drag some people with you.
Warlock : dunno,never played it but i find it cool.It helps but i find it boring.
Cleric/Bard : Clearly support classes.Every party will need those but it's kind of boring to just stand there and buff.But i'd pick cleric as a second class.

SO IMO : Warrior/Cleric is the way to go.

Pretty much this! At least if you're going for group pvp.

About the warrior/rogue:
It's great for solo pvp's and you'll be able to kill most people quite easily (depends on gear - obviously). However, in grinding parties and group pvp's, as Mupf9 said, every party would prefer a warrior/cleric instead of you.

Good luck with your build ;)

Re: Best char for group PVP

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:03 pm
by Mupf9
At group pvp Sub Cleric chars are the best. Cause once one guy dies he gets blackressed, so your team also needs black ress + full buffed by a cleric.
While they are blackressed they dont get any important damage by normal attacks so you need absolute skills which are at the cleric tree.
Over Healing + Glut Healing, Im FF to 101 and Over Healing is at lvl 14 and causes 11k DMG, Glut Healing is at lvl 6 and causes 12k DMG. Now imagine a whole pt with Sub Clerics who use Over/Glut Healing at an fully buffed, blackressed guy. He dies fast...
cause 11k and 12k dmg gets due to his buffs.

Its just nice. ;)