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[PVP] Fair fight? or not?

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:52 pm
by Tia
Well, i just got pissed and wanted to make this post, dont take it too serious, but a reply would be nice.

So, i just PVPed some guy, i am lvl 42, he is lvl 40.
Me- Full str Warrior/warlock Full NPC set (wep,shield, everything, even all garms, because i switched from armor to Robe)
He- Full STR warrior/cleric (he said all NPC, except a sos+3 32 2H)
Well we PVPed, and i kept winning, mostly cuz i would use Vampire kiss, then stunned, then debuffed, switched to 2H and would just kill him. Later he used bless, and he said he used it because it was unfair, ye is said OK, and let him use bless. I always died during his bless. Once we started arguing, he said he always won, then he started to attack me for no reason and it took like 3secs for me to notice, so i was dead by then, but to him it was still fair :palm:

I then used Iron skin, during his bless, and pwned him, so ye, he was only winning due to bless.

He said it was unfairm because i was 6D, and he was still 5D. I said ye, then we compared our Weps, and a 42 2H NPC has 268-305 Phy Dmg, and his sos had 252-301 or something like that, so the stats were very close, and not big enough to make a hige damage difference, even though he didnt realize i hit higher due to warlock debuffs :palm:

So, in the end i won, ye i know, im just wondering, who won the arguement? was it Fair Or Not?

Post any questions, or just almost anything, i'd appreciate it

P.S. no pointless comments plz....

Re: [PVP] Fair fight? or not?

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:06 pm
by Mr_Smile
Here are typical standards i could think of:

1. If "crazy" defend mechanism can be used, then everyone is entitle to use bless/skins, 25% HP grains, vigors.

2. In Vietnamese servers, no bless/skins, no grain, no vigors.

3. In international servers, kind of hybrid of 1 and 2 but usually no bless/skins, almost all use vigors, some rich players even use grains.

Since there is no specific code of conduct or a real definition of PVP with consensus from all players, it is close to impossible to define whether any PVP is fair or unfair.

Re: [PVP] Fair fight? or not?

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:11 pm
by _Scarlett_
Well, unless you make up and agree to a set standard of what's allowed and not allowed with the aforementioned participating party before you Pvp there's really nothing either of you could do that would be "fair" or "unfair."

Re: [PVP] Fair fight? or not?

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:41 pm
by Break
PVP has to be fair? i just go in and kick some ass or get my ass kicked, its fcking fun

Re: [PVP] Fair fight? or not?

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:27 am
by pizzagirl2008
he should have holy word which makes him immune to your warlock.
besides, warriors shouldnt be using bless/skins period!
i think you won and he failed

but seriously low lvl pvp doesnt mean shit! wait til u get to cap and then re-match

Re: [PVP] Fair fight? or not?

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:54 am
by ZaKnighT
Wait until your a high lvl you find 8 vs 1 =D some times worse.. IMO pvp do what ever you like.. Even though I don't use my skins or bless cuz a good warrior is strong enough to rape with out them. Only when I find a pt vs me ^^

Re: [PVP] Fair fight? or not?

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:03 am
by Tia
too bad he was stupid to use holy :palm: lol he never used it, just HC, Bless, Warcy, and then used sprint assualt at me, i tried to explain it to him, but he just didnt get it -.-

Re: [PVP] Fair fight? or not?

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:33 am
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
pvp is supposed to be fun, that is why i normally fight someone who can deal death and is up for trying battles with new conditions.
If they can't deal the fact that they can die as well, then it's time you looked for someone else to fight.

Re: [PVP] Fair fight? or not?

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:03 am
by Tia
too bad it was 1 AM int he morning, and hardly anyone was there -.-

Re: [PVP] Fair fight? or not?

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:49 am
by ZaKnighT
When u pvp retards... Bless skins make your self super and kill him and write .. Mather fack my vary bust heal guud amr oqe me FTFTW lowe all sorvor brather

Re: [PVP] Fair fight? or not?

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:40 am
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
ZaKnighT wrote:When u pvp retards... Bless skins make your self super and kill him and write .. Mather fack my vary bust heal guud amr oqe me FTFTW lowe all sorvor brather


lol

Re: [PVP] Fair fight? or not?

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:13 pm
by ZaKnighT
Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:
ZaKnighT wrote:When u pvp retards... Bless skins make your self super and kill him and write .. Mather fack my vary bust heal guud amr oqe me FTFTW lowe all sorvor brather


lol

srsly it works you gotta be a more retard to win

Re: [PVP] Fair fight? or not?

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:06 pm
by panterr
Yes this is. If he think's it's unfair he should've said before, and not after he lost. I hate poeple doing that. They're like OMG YOU HAZ +8 SHIELD ! And OMG I HAVE NPC ARMOR. Just tell them not to show up in pvp if they think their armors aren't good enough.

Re: [PVP] Fair fight? or not?

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:24 pm
by CeLL
its ignorant to imply that people cant use the skills that they farmed for because it isnt "fair." this game is about using what has been "earned" be it skills or gear.
if you want a "fair" fight go play street fighter.

Re: [PVP] Fair fight? or not?

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:23 pm
by Tia
^^exactly, i just dont like using skins/bless(even if i had it) in pvp, since i like challenges, not 45secs of not being able to be killed, so once he blessed, i switched to 1H/shield and used iron skin, and just waited :D

Re: [PVP] Fair fight? or not?

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:04 pm
by CeLL
exactly, you use your skills and gear to counter his skills and gear.

Re: [PVP] Fair fight? or not?

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:22 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
at this point, Tia should be high-fiving everyone in the thread

Re: [PVP] Fair fight? or not?

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:54 pm
by ZaKnighT
But guys really.. Why people keep crying when a warrior use his skins.. And you find a china char use fire wall, snow what ever you name it, and tells you it's my skills, even some times vigors.. Even some times when I play with my wizz they keep crying when I open bless wth.. Infact I only use skins and bless vs the people who keep crying about it just to piss him off. As a freind said to me just tell him hey this my skills and you can go f*** yourself

Re: [PVP] Fair fight? or not?

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:35 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
the only people i have a problem with is the group that cannot pvp at all without being fully buffed with bless/skins.
If they feel so insecure when unable to cast them, they should go back to turk pvp with a background buffer.

Even if reputation is at stake, without new situations there is no real challenge which makes it a waste of time.