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Starting a Pure Legit Guild on the next new server?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:27 am
by Zelman
So, is anyone interested, for the next new server, we just make a pure legit guild?

Hell, if it works out, it could become the #1 legit server, if we keep up mass reports of bots ect ect, we could even convince JM to do one thing right, CLEAN ONE SERVER, who cares about the others, as long as legits have a place to play, i may even start buying silk again..

Tbh, that would be a dream come true, a server dedicated to 100% legits with botters actually being punished with IP Bans, or even have their ISP contacted and have them cut off the net.. that would be a nice way to keep a server clean..

but yeah, anyone up for it?

Re: Starting a Pure Legit Guild on the next new server?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:29 am
by Zyphir
They won't do it, how stupid would it look: "We ban everyone on this server who bots. All other servers can do whatever they want."

And tbh, people who bot, cut off the net? Be real lol, you really think a company like Joymax has the authority to cut people off the internet. Ban from their game, yes, ban from the internet, no.

Re: Starting a Pure Legit Guild on the next new server?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:30 am
by S3by
I think some ppl will play more , some less and sooner or letter there will be a 10+ lvl's difference between guild members , and u won't have with ho to party with , so u start to search free powerlvl .

Re: Starting a Pure Legit Guild on the next new server?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:34 am
by Zelman
Corevalue wrote:They won't do it, how stupid would it look: "We ban everyone on this server who bots. All other servers can do whatever they want."

And tbh, people who bot, cut off the net? Be real lol, you really think a company like Joymax has the authority to cut people off the internet. Ban from their game, yes, ban from the internet, no.


Well, if JM clearly stated that botting is ILLEGAL once and for all, they can take whatever action they like to stop people botting, if they have hard proof, yes, they could have ISP's cut people off the internet.

Re: Starting a Pure Legit Guild on the next new server?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:46 am
by S3by
As long as u pay your ISP , they will give u internet . U go to far with cut off internet , there are many ISP , if one don't give u internet u change it , simple and easy .

Re: Starting a Pure Legit Guild on the next new server?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:51 am
by Zelman
S3by wrote:As long as u pay your ISP , they will give u internet . U go to far with cut off internet , there are many ISP , if one don't give u internet u change it , simple and easy .


Have you seen what happened to that kid in Australia?
He attempted to DDOS a game hosted by Games.On.Net, he ended up getting caught and was made to pay around $10,000 in compensation and was barred from having home internet for 5 years.

Like, if somebody can have that kind of penalty over DDOS'ing a game server, im sure it can be done.

Then again, it is JM we are talking about...

Re: Starting a Pure Legit Guild on the next new server?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:22 am
by Bananaman
Zelman wrote: or even have their ISP contacted and have them cut off the net.. that would be a nice way to keep a server clean..




:palm:


Australia must be a crappy place to live if they can cut off your internet for cheating on a game. . .oh wait Ddosing a server or website is not cheating on a game :banghead:

I think I need to put my thinking cap on Can you please send me some more tin foil? Ive run out

Oh, How do you like you're Communist Chinese style Internet Filter in Aussie land?

Re: Starting a Pure Legit Guild on the next new server?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:54 am
by ddoouugg
Bananaman wrote:
Australia must be a crappy place to live


we are an 3rd world country with our internet :(

Re: Starting a Pure Legit Guild on the next new server?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:44 pm
by neo3110
Joymax cares only about making more money, they opened new server to get new people to the game who are willing to pay to play, and the gold bots will traffic this server too, they even made a server for Turks because a lot of people keep harassment them, and the server is full with 100% bots, Joymax is a heaven for bots, there are no place for people like me and you there.
You also forgot about the exp/sp rate, and if they wanted atleast to ban gbots they would do it at the other servers, they wanna run it as pure pay to bot and login game, so people who got "LIFE" can play too.
Joymax is the most disgusting company with the most fail communities.
Solving the problem between Israel and Palestine is way easier than solving Joymax's problem.

Re: Starting a Pure Legit Guild on the next new server?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:53 pm
by _Equal_
Zelman wrote:
Corevalue wrote:They won't do it, how stupid would it look: "We ban everyone on this server who bots. All other servers can do whatever they want."

And tbh, people who bot, cut off the net? Be real lol, you really think a company like Joymax has the authority to cut people off the internet. Ban from their game, yes, ban from the internet, no.


Well, if JM clearly stated that botting is ILLEGAL once and for all, they can take whatever action they like to stop people botting, if they have hard proof, yes, they could have ISP's cut people off the internet.


Simple, because using a bot is not illegal, just against their TOS.

Good luck with cutting off people's ISP's. Legal action taking place in Korea, coordinating with US/Russia/Australian/Canadian/other countries lawyers and judges? Um, that's not going to happen. Joymax barely gives a shit about bots right now, they would not waste it on lawyers for every botting player.

What they are doing right now is account bans. The alternative is IP bans or worse, subnet bans, and then you wind up with people who have not botted being unable to play because one person broke the rules - i.e. they receive that same IP address that a botter got. It's similar to what has happened here on SRF when people got an IP ban and then others happen to come through on that banned IP - access denied.

Re: Starting a Pure Legit Guild on the next new server?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:44 pm
by Dark Ashelin
It won't work, good luck trying to grind with 100 goldbots in your movia/mangyang fields!

It would be a better idea to move with a whole bunch of people to another version, like kSro.

Re: Starting a Pure Legit Guild on the next new server?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:46 pm
by KylieMinogue
Fail

1. Gaia FAIL
2. Iris FAIL
3. Venus probably going to die sooner or later, FAIL

Re: Starting a Pure Legit Guild on the next new server?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:54 pm
by ninshad
KylieMinogue wrote:Fail

1. Gaia FAIL
2. Iris FAIL
3. Venus probably going to die sooner or later, FAIL


This.

Especially Venus :(

Re: Starting a Pure Legit Guild on the next new server?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:18 pm
by Tasdik
Heck, Venus lasted for two years. I don't really call that a fail tbh.

But yeah, in order to try and make a new venus you'll need like 10-20 solid, dedicated, core people who will spend 5+ hours a day partying, they'll also probably need a prem so that they can all get on and party at any specific time they so desire. Get high enough, take the fort. Stomp on some botters. Enjoy it for 6ish months until botters once again take over.

Re: Starting a Pure Legit Guild on the next new server?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:28 pm
by _Equal_
KylieMinogue wrote:Fail

1. Gaia FAIL
2. Iris FAIL
3. Venus probably going to die sooner or later, FAIL


There are still legits on the server, I don't call that a fail. Chalk it up to GNGWC, when traffic went back to normal and ZSZC showed up with easy logins, nobody in that guild save a few people were devoted enough to stay on Iris.

Call that what it is - lack of time, devotion to a movement, whatever.

You want a new server with legits, we would need to persuade EVERY legit on old servers to move there, we would need to have bot pk on sight, good leaders with a no-bullshit attitude, dedicated guild masters who know how to run their guilds.

That is how I think we'd ever get another Venus. See why it won't happen?

Re: Starting a Pure Legit Guild on the next new server?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:29 pm
by _Dutchy_
Key to a good legit guild is and always will be leadership
and like tasdik said Keymembers.

You will need a leader or leaders that are really deticated to keep there guild union intact and keep the bots out.

I'm personally Co-leader of one of the biggest legit guild in aege possible the last one lol
The leader is American i'm european so because of the time differences allot of times there
is one of us around.