Do moral values exist in this triangular conflict?

[agomago]

Alright, so not many of you have seen me post (if any) so no, I'm not a bot. Long time lurker (+2 years) first time poster. But this isn't an introduction post (or section in that matter) so I will make this to the point.

The other day I was out on a trade run, and you might want to know, I consider trading the most legitimate way to earn gold in this game. I hand grind my char and make money without being plvld so trading has value to me. Of course I only do 1 stars due to my low level but nonetheless I make gold. So here I am a level 32 doing a one star trade run (2nd time around) with a buddy when these thieves start trailing us. They obviously notice their inability to attack us but persist in their trailing efforts. Their agro attempts don't turn out well for them. And just as we near Jangan they bring their buddy along who happens to be a level 60+ mage, and she PKs us both..

Now the worst part is we had 100k of goods each. The typhoon drug they were both using was x4 that amount. They LOST gold, in the time they trailed us for (we were slow with our camels). So both parties lost time and gold, and the PKer also lost exp. So everyone loses in this situation. They got a very small amount of thief exp and that's it. So why bother? The fact that people that aren't in job status can PK others is really ruining my mood recently. I've been PK'd at least half the time I trade. Sometimes by people who happen to be grinding or waiting outside of the town. And they are hardly punished for this. I just can't come across a reason why a level 95 char (2 of them in that case) would come after two level thirties for the sake of killing them. I don't expect thieving to be an honorable businesses, but there is a borderline. A fine line that makes me question whether they actually possess some evident moral values as to not waste both of our time and gold. I'm just trying to enjoy this game, and this whole PK aspect is killing my fun. I've been on forums long enough to know someone will tell me to stop playing, and crying about it, and if you have that in mind, please by all means do so, but by no means are you going to be taken seriously.

I am just trying to understand why this sudden onslaught of PK thieving is taking over the game I used to love.

tl;dr Why do people PK 1* traders for little to no money (sometimes a loss of money) especially really high levels vs low ones

[Squirt]

Because they want to flaunt their powers to the lower lvl players.


They remember how hard it was for them at their level so they decide to continue the chain and act like assholes

[roe2121]

pking just to get a 1star trade is bad.. i remember back when popping was in force. higher level thieves going around and dropping thier thieves ontop of lower levels. well i guess there are no lengths people will go to getting money.

[agomago]

pking just to get a 1star trade is bad.. i remember back when popping was in force. higher level thieves going around and dropping thier thieves ontop of lower levels. well i guess there are no lengths people will go to getting money.

I also remember the times of popping, that was much worse of course. But that's the thing... they aren't gaining money... merely losing it.

[Squirt]

pking just to get a 1star trade is bad.. i remember back when popping was in force. higher level thieves going around and dropping thier thieves ontop of lower levels. well i guess there are no lengths people will go to getting money.

I also remember the times of popping, that was much worse of course. But that's the thing... they aren't gaining money... merely losing it.

Popping was actually profitable if you were an STR and you could get a few noobs.

[Dbett5]

**** that shit was so annoying i remember someone was doing it to me but just as me and my horse are about to dye like 5 70+ hunters (80 cap) came and owned him and the thiefs and led me town it was mad haha

[Apachai_]

Lol it was fun popping in 70-80 Cap with them monster summons. Anyways you should have gotten high up hunters or taken the long routes that keep you hidden and makes it harder for them to find you.

I trade for fun, not really to make gold, sure it does work well but I never had to, just once you have enough, buy low sell high, it works out better.

As for the pk'er well probably wanted to show off, had nothing else to do or had to or else =P

[agomago]

To me the obvious solution is to implement a new update so people can not PK job characters... it's too frequent that some random guy will wander by and one hit me.

[Deadsolid]

HTFN

[Noobs_Slayer]

Moral values extinct long time ago. Now players do whatever they can to ruin your fun. Even hacking. In other games (such as JD i saw global chat which has reported a player and he got ban instantly, and the one who lost his gears got them back. SRO isn't game with high moral, so do not take attention

[NuclearSilo]

sro is all about power
a dude could easily hack his friend even though they are well known for 4 years just for a sosun full blues +9

[Gladiator_RN]

because they were bored.

[_Equal_]

I would hazard a guess that they like to show off, were bored, or just don't care, they like laughing at lower level characters instead of trying to help them.

Last night I was hunter on a 5* with two traders. We had two 70ish hunters, an 80, and a 90ish hunter with us. Later on a lvl 95 trader joined but he didn't have a transport, he just traced one of the traders. We were trying to figure out what he was doing when suddenly 5 thieves attacked us. We got lucky I think, I took one lower level out and our 80 and 93 hunter took out the rest. The traders were 30 something and 63, so I don't know if that's really worth it. But I'm annoyed when people play both sides of the field by spying during a trade run.

As for the PK thing it's really annoying too. Going out of South Sam, two noobs kept punching me, so I tried to highlight one to tell him to stop. Sure, instead, the game assumes I'm attacking and out comes a 80+ wiz to kill me. Royally pisses me off. At least they didn't get anything.

[-.-]

theives just mad because they cant use their outside clerics now so they get noobs to pk and you go pink and they kill you

[agomago]

I would hazard a guess that they like to show off, were bored, or just don't care, they like laughing at lower level characters instead of trying to help them.

Last night I was hunter on a 5* with two traders. We had two 70ish hunters, an 80, and a 90ish hunter with us. Later on a lvl 95 trader joined but he didn't have a transport, he just traced one of the traders. We were trying to figure out what he was doing when suddenly 5 thieves attacked us. We got lucky I think, I took one lower level out and our 80 and 93 hunter took out the rest. The traders were 30 something and 63, so I don't know if that's really worth it. But I'm annoyed when people play both sides of the field by spying during a trade run.

As for the PK thing it's really annoying too. Going out of South Sam, two noobs kept punching me, so I tried to highlight one to tell him to stop. Sure, instead, the game assumes I'm attacking and out comes a 80+ wiz to kill me. Royally pisses me off. At least they didn't get anything.

Reality sucks

[joh]

I'd say they just sick of 1*... serioulsy they suck...(even i feel like a douche when doing one) you have to consider, Hunters cant make Money for -almost- sure and nor can Thieves. I guess its all the frustration of finding a trade to see. in the case of blbla 1* blabla cant attack. Someones got to pay one day...
they realy need to reform the trade system, either take away one star protect( i know sounds weird) SO no trade is safe so ppl actualy do trades depending on how much the want to invest rather than always doing one star cause theyre safe.This would bring hunters lurking for trades to help, because they would be in demand, rather than being -private- hunters for 1 or 2 guys. And the thief... they never gave up and would still be there, most likely more too, everything would even up.

Or put a level system involving the ability to attack x grades (ctf lv caps) over and under (and still no 1* protect) you so a low lv hunter as much as a low lv thief and trader can have fun.(cause currently a lv 20 hunter is useless, and a thief... good luck)

That being said,do traders do any better sure getting pked out of ''law'' sux but im sure you laugh your azz off when they found you and couldnt do nothing... i know i do.

btw: recruiting hunters Iris Ryuky (yeah im a trader...)

[-.-]

why remove 1*... not like it lasts forever...
no point having a lv 100+ 1 hitting a <40 trader...

[Cruor]

Because they want to flaunt their powers to the lower lvl players.


They remember how hard it was for them at their level so they decide to continue the chain and act like assholes

The only proper way to assert your authority is with a cape and second degree armor at the Ch'in Tomb. Unfortunately, this is no longer possible due to a ten-thousand percent decrease in the number of cape-wearing noobs.

[PR0METHEUS]

Thieves don't need morals!

Actually when I used to thief, I wouldn't really attack traders that were far enough under my level. In fact, I sometimes would kill traders' NPC thieves, while wearing my thief suit. They didn't know what to think. hahaha

Sometimes if I did rob a trader, I'd find them later and give them the money they lost.

Then again, sometimes I'd kill a trader, take their stuff, and res them... then kill them again It depended on my mood. That's the thing with thieves. They don't have to be nice. If you don't want to deal with thieves, don't let them find you. There are ways to hide.

The only proper way to assert your authority is with a cape and second degree armor at the Ch'in Tomb. Unfortunately, this is no longer possible due to a ten-thousand percent decrease in the number of cape-wearing noobs.

Either that or the noobs at the tigers that wear capes while grinding. You have to PM them first to warn them that you are going to kill them. Give them a few seconds to TRY and take the cape off.