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Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:57 pm
by Squirt
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I'm at like crossroads right now.
I want to make a euro wizard because I loooooooove participating in the guild grinding parties.
But I also want to make a Chinese based build ( Nuker or archer)
Deciding is to hard
Also I think I'm going to stay with my Euro since Iris has a higher concentration of Euro, also I know i'll be fu****d at the higher caps if I try to find a party that lets a chinese in.
Whats your current build and are you satisfied?
How do you do in PVP?
How are you at grinding solo?
How good is your role in a party?
How large is your SP requirement? ( I know silly question xD)
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:00 pm
by Doppleganger
Just make a warlock/cleric.
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:07 pm
by bryanvan
Squirt wrote:Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I'm at like crossroads right now.
I want to make a euro wizard because I loooooooove participating in the guild grinding parties.
But I also want to make a Chinese based build ( Nuker or archer)
Deciding is to hard
Also I think I'm going to stay with my Euro since Iris has a higher concentration of Euro, also I know i'll be fu****d at the higher caps if I try to find a party that lets a chinese in.
Whats your current build and are you satisfied?
How do you do in PVP?
How are you at grinding solo?
How good is your role in a party?
How large is your SP requirement? ( I know silly question xD)
So far I've seen that alot of chinese and euro's party together at 100 and higher. All with all, if you're a euro YOU WILL level faster, BUT only when you have partys.
This might be a problem, because there are not always partys.... You know that yourself.
Though, as a chinese, you CAN solo, and I'm guessing that once Iris gets chinese in their guilds, they will party together also. Another point, a s/s nuker is awesome in grinding. Once you got it up a few levels with enough SP, they rock and grind pretty good solo. Been there and done that. Went from 65 to 78 in 1 month with Gold tickit back then.
Anyway, Warlock/Cleric is also nice but needs a SHITLOAD of SP. Though I think it can solo. No idea because I've never been one before.
A Str archer can solo for sure, though it's not that fast as a s/s nuker.
Maybe you've gotten a lil wiser now...
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:08 pm
by John_Doe
Chinese>Euro wahahaha incites flame war....
ontopic: Write it on paper, stick in hat, stick hand in hat, pick one, pull out, read, tada done. Choice made.
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:10 pm
by Amro
Squirt wrote:Whats your current build and are you satisfied? wizard/cleric yes
How do you do in PVP? 1hit all
How are you at grinding solo? 1hit all
How good is your role in a party? 1hi... oh great
How large is your SP requirement? ( I know silly question xD) sp not needed
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:10 pm
by bryanvan
John_Doe wrote:Chinese>Euro wahahaha incites flame war....
ontopic: Write it on paper, stick in hat, stick hand in hat, pick one, pull out, read, tada done. Choice made.
Haha good 1
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:11 pm
by Smi!ezZ
hmm lets see.. wizards can solo fine, warriors can solo fine, rogues can solo fine, warlocks can solo fine, glaivers can solo fine, bowers can solo fine, sword/spear nukers can solo fine, bladers can solo fine...
I HOPE I HELPED!
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:23 pm
by bryanvan
Smi!ezZ wrote:hmm lets see.. wizards can solo fine, warriors can solo fine, rogues can solo fine, warlocks can solo fine, glaivers can solo fine, bowers can solo fine, sword/spear nukers can solo fine, bladers can solo fine...
I HOPE I HELPED!
Great! This will be helpfull to him I guess:P
Amro wrote:Squirt wrote:Whats your current build and are you satisfied? wizard/cleric yes
How do you do in PVP? 1hit all
How are you at grinding solo? 1hit all
How good is your role in a party? 1hi... oh great
How large is your SP requirement? ( I know silly question xD) sp not needed
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:29 pm
by Squirt
bryanvan wrote:Squirt wrote:Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I'm at like crossroads right now.
I want to make a euro wizard because I loooooooove participating in the guild grinding parties.
But I also want to make a Chinese based build ( Nuker or archer)
Deciding is to hard
Also I think I'm going to stay with my Euro since Iris has a higher concentration of Euro, also I know i'll be fu****d at the higher caps if I try to find a party that lets a chinese in.
Whats your current build and are you satisfied?
How do you do in PVP?
How are you at grinding solo?
How good is your role in a party?
How large is your SP requirement? ( I know silly question xD)
So far I've seen that alot of chinese and euro's party together at 100 and higher. All with all, if you're a euro YOU WILL level faster, BUT only when you have partys.
This might be a problem, because there are not always partys.... You know that yourself.
Though, as a chinese, you CAN solo, and I'm guessing that once Iris gets chinese in their guilds, they will party together also. Another point, a s/s nuker is awesome in grinding. Once you got it up a few levels with enough SP, they rock and grind pretty good solo. Been there and done that. Went from 65 to 78 in 1 month with Gold tickit back then.
Anyway, Warlock/Cleric is also nice but needs a SHITLOAD of SP. Though I think it can solo. No idea because I've never been one before.
A Str archer can solo for sure, though it's not that fast as a s/s nuker.
Maybe you've gotten a lil wiser now...
It helped indeed, thank you
Smi!ezZ wrote:hmm lets see.. wizards can solo fine, warriors can solo fine, rogues can solo fine, warlocks can solo fine, glaivers can solo fine, bowers can solo fine, sword/spear nukers can solo fine, bladers can solo fine...
I HOPE I HELPED!
You complicated things now, you just named so many awesome builds =(
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:49 pm
by Goseki
Pwnage, pvp will be archer for sure. Range is greater and has kb + fire wall (blue omg) and no pot delay. For pve though, wiz will be way better.
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:07 pm
by bryanvan
Goseki wrote:Pwnage, pvp will be archer for sure. Range is greater and has kb + fire wall (blue omg) and no pot delay. For pve though, wiz will be way better.
I have a level 67 wiz/bard... on venus.
I just got on it because I was bored.
Trust me... Wizzes can't solo at their own level mobs.
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:44 pm
by Goseki
bryanvan wrote:Goseki wrote:Pwnage, pvp will be archer for sure. Range is greater and has kb + fire wall (blue omg) and no pot delay. For pve though, wiz will be way better.
I have a level 67 wiz/bard... on venus.
I just got on it because I was bored.
Trust me... Wizzes can't solo at their own level mobs.
By hand they can.
I meant pve in parties since that's what Squirt seemed to be leaning towards.
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:50 pm
by bryanvan
Goseki wrote:bryanvan wrote:Goseki wrote:Pwnage, pvp will be archer for sure. Range is greater and has kb + fire wall (blue omg) and no pot delay. For pve though, wiz will be way better.
I have a level 67 wiz/bard... on venus.
I just got on it because I was bored.
Trust me... Wizzes can't solo at their own level mobs.
By hand they can.
I meant pve in parties since that's what Squirt seemed to be leaning towards.
Yea pve in party's oke.. they can be quite helpfull and wizards are always needed in partys,
And I will oversee your "by hand" reply.. I don't bot..
But in solo, it's hard for a wiz any euro for that matter I think.
If you really want to be soloing alot, maybe because there are no partys or what ever, you might be better of with a chinese
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:52 pm
by Squirt
bryanvan wrote:Goseki wrote:Pwnage, pvp will be archer for sure. Range is greater and has kb + fire wall (blue omg) and no pot delay. For pve though, wiz will be way better.
I have a level 67 wiz/bard... on venus.
I just got on it because I was bored.
Trust me... Wizzes can't solo at their own level mobs.
Not even with +6 fully blue gear D=?
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:58 am
by Bg_DrEaM
Squirt wrote:Whats your current build and are you satisfied?
Wizard/Bard - the best build I've played, not because it's the best in general, but because it the one that fits my way of playing the game How do you do in PVP?
I don't really like pvp-ing, but it's great in group pvp (guild wars, FW, team cape fight)How are you at grinding solo?
Doing fine, you just need to be a little more carefulHow good is your role in a party?
The best one - everyone is taking care of you and you just need to kill the mobs. 
Well, seriously said, it's fun and not so hard as a cleric or warrior(you don't need to be so concentrated) and if you get tired you can take a little rest and at that time to play as a bard.How large is your SP requirement? ( I know silly question xD)
That one depends on what you decide to lvl, if you lvl only the most important wiz skills and only noise and speed, you don't need so many SP.
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:05 am
by Dbett5
im a dagger rouge bard theyre pretty good in soloing with dagger desperate i can 1 shot things a few lvls higher then me and the moving march and noise makes it easy in partys to buff evry1 for quiker luring and avoid getting hit while u hav xbow xtreme or dd on and in a party u can lure with an xbow take the power ups off and tank or be a damage dealer because with crits after level 40 you hit harder then a wiz just no aoe
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:08 am
by HuNt3rMx
listen, euros arent made for solo grind, they can do it but it is kinda hard all cuz pot delay, sometimes u have to stop a lil or use a lot of vigors which is not good for wallet. Chinesse chars are more than welcomed to ptys, trust me, every pty needs a tanker, lets say glavier or blader, and some damage dealers so nukers are also pretty good for pty. S/S nuekrs are good but in my personal experience spear nukers are better (for me, im not sayin that spear nukers are absolutely the best) and mine do well in pvp, i own some glaviers and bladers my lvl at CTF, and i dont even have good gears, so my advice is try nuker with heuksal/fire/light masteries, but make sure to farm from time to time cuz this build is awesome but need a lot of sp.
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:41 am
by Woody93
Sorry guys, but all of your answers are such a bullshit.
I'm pretty sure we wont ever take chinese chars in our pt's. When you have an 8 man euro party, you get an 25% exp bonus. When we would let a chinese in our pts, we would lose this bonus. Also, a chinese just isn't handy in a pt. The only thing they can do is luring, but so can a tank or rogue (which have most of the time cleric sub, which can be handy too for bless spell rotation). They can't be handy as a tank, because they don't aggro mobs at all. They can't realy deal damage either, rogues and wizards (and warlocks) overpower them in a pt.
Chinese aren't made for pting and will have to solo their way to the top. I would recommend europe for sure.
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:18 am
by Dbett5
Woody93 wrote:Sorry guys, but all of your answers are such a bullshit.
I'm pretty sure we wont ever take chinese chars in our pt's. When you have an 8 man euro party, you get an 25% exp bonus. When we would let a chinese in our pts, we would lose this bonus. Also, a chinese just isn't handy in a pt. The only thing they can do is luring, but so can a tank or rogue (which have most of the time cleric sub, which can be handy too for bless spell rotation). They can't be handy as a tank, because they don't aggro mobs at all. They can't realy deal damage either, rogues and wizards (and warlocks) overpower them in a pt.
Chinese aren't made for pting and will have to solo their way to the top. I would recommend europe for sure.
is that 25% bonus on top of the 200% bonus of killing a pt mob if ur pt level is below the average of that mob coz then its 250% for 8 man euro under average lol
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:29 am
by bryanvan
Just watch me, at the cap euro and chinese do grind together.... I've been there and done that.
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:55 am
by Snazzi
bryanvan wrote:Goseki wrote:bryanvan wrote:I have a level 67 wiz/bard... on venus.
I just got on it because I was bored.
Trust me... Wizzes can't solo at their own level mobs.
By hand they can.
I meant pve in parties since that's what Squirt seemed to be leaning towards.
Yea pve in party's oke.. they can be quite helpfull and wizards are always needed in partys,
And I will oversee your "by hand" reply.. I don't bot..
But in solo, it's hard for a wiz any euro for that matter I think.
If you really want to be soloing alot, maybe because there are no partys or what ever, you might be better of with a chinese
When my wiz was 80, I could solo quite fine on my level mobs - But try to stick with ones that your armour helps against if that make sense (Like for me, I wear robes, so niya mages were fine, coz of my 'good' mag defense)> This works fine, until you come up to a giant, which a wizard / cleric should be able to kill easily, as long as you have bless, and if you have a wizard / bard, just wait till you got zerk.
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:29 am
by omier
Squirt wrote:Whats your current build and are you satisfied? Full int Light/Cold/Fire Spear. Im not very satisfied but it aint that bad.
How do you do in PVP? Not bad. CTF goes pretty well, sometimes 3 kills with 1 hit from Horse's Thunderbolt.
How are you at grinding solo? 1 nuke, 1 shout and mob dead.
How good is your role in a party? Just nuking all the time so it's easy.
How large is your SP requirement? ( I know silly question xD) Haven't calculated, only my Lightning mastery is my level, other ones are far behind.
But i'd prefer a glaive or a bow over my nuker.
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:06 pm
by Woody93
bryanvan wrote:Just watch me, at the cap euro and chinese do grind together.... I've been there and done that.
Not on Iris where we will have enough europeans for a pt.
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:41 pm
by Goseki
If you kill 3 ppl with one light nuke in CTF, that prob means they were wayyyy weaker than you.
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:35 pm
by bryanvan
Woody93 wrote:bryanvan wrote:Just watch me, at the cap euro and chinese do grind together.... I've been there and done that.
Not on Iris where we will have enough europeans for a pt.
Haha on all servers xcept iris
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:10 pm
by omier
Goseki wrote:If you kill 3 ppl with one light nuke in CTF, that prob means they were wayyyy weaker than you.
I don't know what were they wearing then.
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:15 pm
by Azilius
I made a wizard/lock.
When I was bored I'd swap to lock class and zerk every minute or so running around like crazy..
then I'd go wizard for a while..and swap again etc
made grinding go by nicely.
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:29 pm
by Smi!ezZ
why do ppl say euros can't solo? Look at botters.. do you think THEY grind to lvl 100-110 FF in PARTIES???... NO, they dont. and If a botter can do it, a legit can do it
Re: Chinese-Euro char
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:36 am
by omier
Warlock cleric is a great solo build.