that a Euro can be killed by a chinese characters?
Euro are way overpowered in damage. For example: a Warrior/cleric. They got heal, they bless, they got skins, and they got vigors, they knockdown, knockback. But when a chinese uses vigor, they called that's not real pvp. What the hell.
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:04 pm
by Bg_DrEaM
Idk who is saying this, but i don't think the magority believes in that statement. Ofcourse, if we talk about 1v1, if we talk about a euro pt, then sure it's pretty hard to kill them Since i have a wizard, i am completely aware of the fact that a chinese can kill an euro. As for the vigors - whoever says it's not fair for chinese to use them is just a kid trying to find an excuse why he lost.
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:07 pm
by Woohoo
Bg_DrEaM wrote:Idk who is saying this, but i don't think the magority believes in that statement. Ofcourse, if we talk about 1v1, if we talk about a euro pt, then sure it's pretty hard to kill them Since i have a wizard, i am completely aware of the fact that a chinese can kill an euro. As for the vigors - whoever says it's not fair for chinese to use them is just a kid trying to find an excuse why he lost.
I don't care what my opponent uses, as long as nobody buffs him or debuffs me. Under those conditions I can PvP normally without bless/skins. If they do buff them self then I just put on my bless/skins.
A PvP is a battle between 2 characters, it doesn't matter what they use, as long nobody interferes. So I see nothing wrong in a Chinese using vigors.
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:19 pm
by Bg_DrEaM
Yea i understand what you mean, but as we all know, people are different. If i remember correctly we had vigors even before euro came out 9 i might be wrong, but i think i'm not). Everyone has it's own oppinion. And as i said, the people who use vigors as an excuse are the ones who can't accept they lost. and the comments just prove this for me. It's like saying it's unfair for a nuker to use a snow shield (which i have heard too many times). So just ignore those people. You know who you are, you know how good you are and how you play, why you care about their oppinion
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:24 pm
by Puma60
I completly agree, however I don't think anyone should use Vigors in PvP, Euro or Chinese. If you tell most Euros not to use Vigors, they'll use their 15 seconds pot delay as an excuse. On my server, most capped Euros have their Vigor Grains set at 75%.
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:27 pm
by iztupido
just ignore the dude, he is retired (lacks oxigen in his brain)
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:28 pm
by Bg_DrEaM
Well my oppinion is not so PRO, cause i never make pvp. As i said, i'm a wizard and i don't think my char is ment to be a pvp one, and i didn't made it for this, i just don't like pvp But as in everything else, people just can't accept they lost (PvP, Trade, CTF, Killing unique, FW) so they need an excuse. That's all.
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:42 pm
by asusi
I dunno but i think you must be skilled, and i dare you for a pvp match, i take my blader vs your euro, without any outside buffs, im pretty sure i will rape you.
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:42 pm
by wootpops
i used to think unfair for euros to vigor. and nukers use snowshield. but i found more annoying ways to get around them. like use firewall everytime the nuker breaks it for 2 minutes. and what not.
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:02 pm
by XMoshe
I only use vigors if I have to...Which is not really often unless a sun wep joins or something xD
And yeah...You see some people getting hit for like 5k (or 10k) as a pure str lvl 100 and they use a hp and vigor pot >.> Like wtf lol...Farking pussies, but still, they are allowed to use it.
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:10 pm
by JoyFax
iztupido wrote:just ignore the dude, he is retired (lacks oxigen in his brain)
retired = reformado :p queres dizer "retarded"
Well, if euros can use vigor don't see what's wrong with chinese using them
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:16 pm
by iztupido
JoyFax wrote:
iztupido wrote:just ignore the dude, he is retired (lacks oxigen in his brain)
retired = reformado :p queres dizer "retarded"
Well, if euros can use vigor don't see what's wrong with chinese using them
no joyfax, i really want to say retired (its due to some jokes at OTL/OSV)
(eu sei que retired eh reformado )
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:18 pm
by TillTheEnd
Puma60 wrote:I completly agree, however I don't think anyone should use Vigors in PvP, Euro or Chinese. If you tell most Euros not to use Vigors, they'll use their 15 seconds pot delay as an excuse. On my server, most capped Euros have their Vigor Grains set at 75%.
w/o vigors a Euro has a better advantage vs a Chinese str. and with vigors a chinese gains advantage, euros have the advantage of switching to shied+rod, when healing cycle ends, recast it and use self heal to regain near max or max hp and start bashing again. while the chinese will never regain maximum heath, because the pot size remain the same (x-large) and btw euros pot delay is [b]3-4 sec (hp grains)[/b]lol, let a euro use X-large pots (15 sec. delay)and they will loose 1/1 most of the times.
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:39 am
by XMoshe
TillTheEnd wrote:
Puma60 wrote:I completly agree, however I don't think anyone should use Vigors in PvP, Euro or Chinese. If you tell most Euros not to use Vigors, they'll use their 15 seconds pot delay as an excuse. On my server, most capped Euros have their Vigor Grains set at 75%.
w/o vigors a Euro has a better advantage vs a Chinese str. and with vigors a chinese gains advantage, euros have the advantage of switching to shied+rod, when healing cycle ends, recast it and use self heal to regain near max or max hp and start bashing again. while the chinese will never regain maximum heath, because the pot size remain the same (x-large) and btw euros pot delay is [b]3-4 sec (hp grains)[/b]lol, let a euro use X-large pots (15 sec. delay)and they will loose 1/1 most of the times.
By the time he does all that stuff the other guy is near max hp again too probably >.<
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:21 am
by Rhe7oric
Bg_DrEaM wrote:Well my oppinion is not so PRO, cause i never make pvp. As i said, i'm a wizard and i don't think my char is ment to be a pvp one, and i didn't made it for this, i just don't like pvp But as in everything else, people just can't accept they lost (PvP, Trade, CTF, Killing unique, FW) so they need an excuse. That's all.
Wizards can make good pvp characters. Don't listen to the sterotypical bullshit that they cannot be -- those people who say that have only seen the way noobs PvP: and that is spamming Life Turnover + Invis and trying to kill everyone before they inevitably get one shotted by someone else. All it takes is good playing and a decent set (I recommend a +4/+5 light armor set, fuck robes). If you can play a Warrior/Cleric and switch weapons easily, you can do the same with a Wizard/Cleric.
I hate to look like I'm self bragging here... but look. Code: Select all
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:46 am
by KayeMonsterz
O.O all chars are good for pvp.They just do really bad or realy good vs some builds.Vigors..its all fair
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:59 am
by wantux
euro - hp grain 75% , vigor grain 50% , beat me
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:09 am
by Bg_DrEaM
Rhe7oric wrote:
Bg_DrEaM wrote:Well my oppinion is not so PRO, cause i never make pvp. As i said, i'm a wizard and i don't think my char is ment to be a pvp one, and i didn't made it for this, i just don't like pvp But as in everything else, people just can't accept they lost (PvP, Trade, CTF, Killing unique, FW) so they need an excuse. That's all.
Wizards can make good pvp characters. Don't listen to the sterotypical bullshit that they cannot be -- those people who say that have only seen the way noobs PvP: and that is spamming Life Turnover + Invis and trying to kill everyone before they inevitably get one shotted by someone else. All it takes is good playing and a decent set (I recommend a +4/+5 light armor set, fuck robes). If you can play a Warrior/Cleric and switch weapons easily, you can do the same with a Wizard/Cleric.
I hate to look like I'm self bragging here... but look.
Well, with wizard cleric is not that hard. But i am bard Anyways, i don't say wizards can't do pvp, but i don't like it so i'm not doing it But you are right, a skilled wizard can win a pvp.
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:21 pm
by iztupido
ofy1993 wrote:
JoyFax wrote:
iztupido wrote:just ignore the dude, he is retired (lacks oxigen in his brain)
retired = reformado :p queres dizer "retarded"
don't make fun of retired people. it's not their fault they were born without oxygen
OnT: Saying you use vigors is like saying Warriors using skins, bless or any sub cleric int using offering to win a pvp. People will ALWAYS complain since they can't own/use/spam/do whatever they're oppenent does.
If you agree to pvp a guy, when he wins, you can't complain he has a sun weapon/set. That's just how SRO is.
ofy mens i wasnt making fun of retired people men, i just called the dude that posted that retired mkay?
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:57 pm
by Nyima
TheSpy wrote:I don't care what my opponent uses, as long as nobody buffs him or debuffs me. Under those conditions I can PvP normally without bless/skins. If they do buff them self then I just put on my bless/skins.
A PvP is a battle between 2 characters, it doesn't matter what they use, as long nobody interferes. So I see nothing wrong in a Chinese using vigors.
Bingo. Couldnt of said it better.
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:34 pm
by pizzagirl2008
Nyima wrote:
TheSpy wrote:I don't care what my opponent uses, as long as nobody buffs him or debuffs me. Under those conditions I can PvP normally without bless/skins. If they do buff them self then I just put on my bless/skins.
A PvP is a battle between 2 characters, it doesn't matter what they use, as long nobody interferes. So I see nothing wrong in a Chinese using vigors.
Bingo. Couldnt of said it better.
Yeah but ppl who use zerk, malicious devil spirit skill, or silk scrolls in pvp are pretty lame also.
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:44 am
by DeviI
if its fare to use vigors as a chino is fare to use grains def buffs as eu thats what its about
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:06 am
by lukefleming1
i think it would be interesting having a poll of what people think is fair in 1 v 1 pvp
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:36 am
by jabbers
anything fair as long as it 1v1
so someone buffing u ..not fair..not 1v1
anything 1v1 fair except those damned balloons lol
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:30 pm
by Achilles990
Euros and Chinese are made same, we are all people ok quit the racist again euros or chinese ok!?!
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:34 pm
by antics
jabbers wrote:anything fair as long as it 1v1
so someone buffing u ..not fair..not 1v1
anything 1v1 fair except those damned balloons lol
this if the warrior has skins he should use em. if he has bless let him use it
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:45 pm
by Caistrus
They made both race equily! it all depend on which build you did!
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:54 pm
by zShared
antics wrote:
jabbers wrote:anything fair as long as it 1v1
so someone buffing u ..not fair..not 1v1
anything 1v1 fair except those damned balloons lol
this if the warrior has skins he should use em. if he has bless let him use it
bless and skins make for a horridly boring 1v1 pvp
Re: Why cant people accept the fact
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:13 pm
by TheSpy
zShared wrote:bless and skins make for a horridly boring 1v1 pvp
Exactly. I just can't use them. Where is the fun if nobody rapes you? >_<