Whats the point of Roc?

[Bhup1nder]

I know its fun and everything gets ur mind of grinding but whats the real point u have to be at least 100 to put a scratch on him and its not alive for continuous after a while it fly's away(WTF is up with that ) lvl 107 mob against lvl 100 players and making it super powerful i don't see what's the point of this unique sorry to say this but this is the truth and im not bitching just because im not 100 and i cant fight it.

[Sir_Edward]

its joymaxs' way of saying UP YOURS

[Toshiharu]

An impossible way of getting easy sun drops. By sun drops I mean the Roc gear.

[Bhup1nder]

its joymaxs' way of saying UP YOURS

lol!

[aznronin]

Joymax loves us

[pizzagirl2008]

it's meant to be a challenge so that the kill/reward factor gives you a bigger e-peen...

what's the point if it's too easy? everyone just gets suns like back in 80 cap

[Crowley]

The point is to kill it...

[NeoShadow]

the point is that every lvl 100 comes and kills it, instead of killin low lvl uniques... i've seen ksro go against rok and i gotta say its crazy so many ppl with pts against it thats why they kill it. but in isro its just like 1 guild trying to kill it while the others are bottin or something........

[Amro]

point?
getting spirits from roc's uniques

[jabbers]

Maybe this has surprised a lot of those sro player who think they can just buy any kind of victory in the game and run the server with only a few people. Either botters will have to get better at setting up mulitclient parties or people will actually need to learn not just guild or union but server-wide teamwork but I think it good that noone kill the roc yet

[pizzagirl2008]

Point is to force you to buy;

prem plus agreed - need prem to login
devil spirit most ppl already have this...but cleric str buffs fix!
rabbit for the loot cant afford? you got 7 other party members who at least 1 will have pet...
defense scrolls again cleric buffs/bard tambours
attack scrolls cleric buffs/bard dance
the 32 inv slot for puting more potions pots? cleric heals, bard mana orbits...
sp tickets how does sp ticket help u kill? and you're only impatient if you think u need sp ticket for hunting bosses to gain extra sp...

So that you at least have a 1% chance of killing it
killing roc aint solo play...you need alot of teamwork...go watch the jsro vids on youtube and you'll know what i mean!

[BloodyBlade]

That's how uniques should be

[Kolossal]

Yea, on isro ppl have to learn how to work with the whole server.
unfortunately, retards, hatings, etc. will never let this "server alliance vs roc" exist.

[Toasty]

That's how uniques should be

[Nitro]

Point is to force you to buy;

prem plus agreed - need prem to login
devil spirit most ppl already have this...but cleric str buffs fix!
rabbit for the loot cant afford? you got 7 other party members who at least 1 will have pet...
defense scrolls again cleric buffs/bard tambours
attack scrolls cleric buffs/bard dance
the 32 inv slot for puting more potions pots? cleric heals, bard mana orbits...
sp tickets how does sp ticket help u kill? and you're only impatient if you think u need sp ticket for hunting bosses to gain extra sp...

So that you at least have a 1% chance of killing it
killing roc aint solo play...you need alot of teamwork...go watch the jsro vids on youtube and you'll know what i mean!

Woah, just woah

[CeLL]

Roc is JM's way of showing the general intelligence of the sro community. A community to stupid to know how to party play, a community to stupid/lazy to earn their own gold, and to lazy/stupid to earn their own levels. So the 150 non gold bots on the server run at roc, die, repeat.


And jm's way to suck money out of you for devil spirits and RR's and repair hammers and pot bags and prem + and avatars.

and +1 to bloody blade.

[PR0METHEUS]

I know its fun and everything gets ur mind of grinding but whats the real point u have to be at least 100 to put a scratch on him and its not alive for continuous after a while it fly's away(WTF is up with that ) lvl 107 mob against lvl 100 players and making it super powerful i don't see what's the point of this unique sorry to say this but this is the truth and im not bitching just because im not 100 and i cant fight it.

Honest question here, but what is Tiger Girl's HP, defense, etc., compared to lvl 16-20 Chinese players? How does the ratio compare to lvl 100s vs Roc? If they are similar ratios (TG has 5x the HP of lvl 13 Chinese - Roc has 5x the HP of lvl 100) then... what's the point in Tiger Girl?

Uniques are meant to be fought in teams. They shouldn't be easy or quick to kill.

Joymax forces you to buy sp tickets, no one farms 2m without an sp ticket.So then just don't farm? Joymax doesn't force you to farm. You don't NEED a full farmed character. If you WANT one so you can be stronger, you can CHOOSE to buy SP tickets.
Joymax forces you to buy prem for logging in. You can log in without premium, it just takes longer
Joymax forces one of of 8 people to buy a rabbit.You can pick up loot without a rabbit, it just takes longer.
Joymax forces you to buy reverse return scrolls cause not many people can run around 30 mins to get to their grinding spot in Chin Tomb.So then just don't die? Reverse return scrolls are not a necessity Joymax forces you to buy. They are a luxury you CHOOSE to buy.
Joymax forces bots to buy devil spirit to be able to even get close killing Roc.Again, Joymax doesn't force anyone to buy devil spirit. The player (or botter) chooses to buy it.
Since more then 99.99% is a bot, that makes everyone.
I was saying that to people who still thinks Silkroad is an f2p game.Silkroad IS a f2p game. It just might not be free to play the way you WANT to play it.

Joymax doesn't force you to do any of those things.

[PR0METHEUS]

Honest question here, but what is Tiger Girl's HP, defense, etc., compared to lvl 16-20 Chinese players? How does the ratio compare to lvl 100s vs Roc? If they are similar ratios (TG has 5x the HP of lvl 13 Chinese - Roc has 5x the HP of lvl 100) then... what's the point in Tiger Girl?

Uniques are meant to be fought in teams. They shouldn't be easy or quick to kill.

Roc has 1,451,891,045 hp when a STR lvl 100 has 40k. Spawns a Demon Shaitan.
Tiger Girl has 598,720 hp when a lvl 20 str has about what? 1.2k hp.

Well you need to compare TG to a lvl 13 character, not a lvl 20 (lvl 107 Roc vs lvl 100 player).

Even so, lvl 13 players don't have NEAR the amount of skills as a lvl 100. The lvl 13s aren't built as well for party play as the lvl 100s, less party buffs and the like. So even if the HP ratios between players vs the two uniques were the same, the lvl 100s (theoretically) work much more effectively as a team, so Roc should have a higher HP ratio than Tiger Girl.

Point is, with a unique as high as Roc, the whole server, or a majority, should work together (or even compete) to kill him instead of just a couple weak inefficient guilds giving it a shot.

[magisuns]

the point is to have people like you make topics on an unofficial game forum for worship of the almight korean bird god

[TheDrop]

That's how uniques should be

[zShared]

That's how uniques should be

Did any of you actually go to roc yesterday?

Roc onehit me. wizard without LT, with fences.. two tambours, trigger, all cleric buffs. 19k in one attack -.-
Not to mention she spawns 50 elite mobs like every minute, and 4x level 100 uniques every other minute.
Noone will ever kill her the way she currently is. Maybe if they gave us unlimited time to kill like every other unique.. but even then most people would get bored and leave / have to leave.

[Doomsday]

lol... I know what I'm going to say has no point but the other day 6 guys who were looking for Lord Yarkan called me because of my buffs and they all were and are botters but I've never seen LY so I went.

They died in... 10 secs? xD
They all were 8x+ and one wiz of lvl 9x+ came (she was not part of the pt), I told her that I was doing a quest there and LY killed me and she stopped her attack to res me. What a cool wiz...

To sum up +1 to CeLL, he's totally right.

[Strwarrior]

That's how uniques should be

Agree.. all other uniques are SHIT!!.

@zShared .. its a legendary monster.. u cant pwn it that easy.. xD, like medusa... its.. its.. nothing...

[Goseki]

Did any of you actually go to roc yesterday?

Roc onehit me. wizard without LT, with fences.. two tambours, trigger, all cleric buffs. 19k in one attack -.-
Not to mention she spawns 50 elite mobs like every minute, and 4x level 100 uniques every other minute.
Noone will ever kill her the way she currently is. Maybe if they gave us unlimited time to kill like every other unique.. but even then most people would get bored and leave / have to leave.

Have you ever fought against a unique the way it was meant to be fought? The only way to do that now is to play on a new server and lvl up asap to try and be the first to attack the unique. Only than can you get the true feeling of how challenging it is. If you can solo the unique, it's too low for you. Roc is perfect imo. If it was easy to kill, than all servers would have ff capped botters running around in full sun roc sets. You wouldn't support that type of gameplay now would you zShared?

I like how challenging Roc is to kill. Besides, you should go in expecting to die a few times. If he targets you, you're farked. The way to kill Roc should be through server-wide teamwork. Have everyone attacking non-stop hard and fast. When someone dies, res,re-buff, than go again. I see Roc being a fun event that's challenging and requires lots of pl.

Also, is it true that when Roc dies, all drops are open for everyone to grab?

[xKingpinx]

I say just go and kill the elite/unique mobs for lvl 100 drops for now...then when hes nerfed (if they do decide to do that) you can fight him for real..

[Barotix]

Did any of you actually go to roc yesterday?

Roc onehit me. wizard without LT, with fences.. two tambours, trigger, all cleric buffs. 19k in one attack -.-
Not to mention she spawns 50 elite mobs like every minute, and 4x level 100 uniques every other minute.
Noone will ever kill her the way she currently is. Maybe if they gave us unlimited time to kill like every other unique.. but even then most people would get bored and leave / have to leave.

Welcome to the world of MMOs, would you like some quest with that raiding? Raid bosses, uniques, w/e should be that hard.

[Razorhead]

Did any of you actually go to roc yesterday?

Roc onehit me. wizard without LT, with fences.. two tambours, trigger, all cleric buffs. 19k in one attack -.-
Not to mention she spawns 50 elite mobs like every minute, and 4x level 100 uniques every other minute.
Noone will ever kill her the way she currently is. Maybe if they gave us unlimited time to kill like every other unique.. but even then most people would get bored and leave / have to leave.

Welcome to the world of MMOs, would you like some quest with that raiding? Raid bosses, uniques, w/e should be that hard.

Big difference with other MMOs is that most bosses, uniques, w/e spawn a few times a day or special entrance or such. Roc spawns once a week at an incredibly crappy hour....
11am (gmt+1) for europe... nice time to spawn roc don't u think...

They make the FW & Roc at the best time IN KOREA... *failz* that screws over European players & American players.

[Bhup1nder]

I know they are doing something differnt and requires alot of teamwork but 100's against 107 i dont see a good outcome 1.4b when people are doing 10-11k per nuker or 18k with wiz hopefully and it doesn't give u enough time to kill it like people said b4.

[zShared]

Have you ever fought against a unique the way it was meant to be fought? The only way to do that now is to play on a new server and lvl up asap to try and be the first to attack the unique. Only than can you get the true feeling of how challenging it is. If you can solo the unique, it's too low for you. Roc is perfect imo. If it was easy to kill, than all servers would have ff capped botters running around in full sun roc sets. You wouldn't support that type of gameplay now would you zShared?

I like how challenging Roc is to kill. Besides, you should go in expecting to die a few times. If he targets you, you're farked. The way to kill Roc should be through server-wide teamwork. Have everyone attacking non-stop hard and fast. When someone dies, res,re-buff, than go again. I see Roc being a fun event that's challenging and requires lots of pl.

Also, is it true that when Roc dies, all drops are open for everyone to grab?

I fought medusa lots of times when the 100 cap was released, everyone was 91 and it was challenging and fun. We still killed her each time though. Not as fun now that most people are 100 she's pretty easy.. I do like a challenge, but roc is just too hard, imo. At least a few of the servers should have been able to kill her, I mean come on.. and why did they have to nerf roc in other versions? because it was impossible.
Don't get me wrong, I went and had fun.. but it would be much nicer if we could actually kill the damn thing. in the first hour we got her to around 90%.. then people realized we weren't taking her down so just started to focus on the level 100 uniques she spawns.
and of course I wouldn't want all the server to be running around in roc sets, a few pieces a month spread out among the whole server wouldn't hurt though.
also I predict a lot less people going to the next spawn.. September, time, and the sheer fact that it isn't going to die will deter people I believe.. so it will be even more impossible ^^

[lopasas]

whats the point of roc?
Sir, obviously, you have not seen the roc drop picture
And im not kidding, if you made topic with such a name, you havent seen it