Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:53 am
I find it odd. There are zero, ZERO gold bots in mugiji or penons..... This is hard to comprehend.... I guess just give it a few minutes? haha xP
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Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:56 am
they are already high lvl ?
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:56 am
Give it by noon and most of the bots will be updated...just like every other inspection. Haven't you learned? lol
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:57 am
reLaxx` wrote:Give it by noon and most of the bots will be updated...just like every other inspection. Haven't you learned? lol
Haha. I expected something along the lines of this. Normally there are atleast a few RIGHT after inspection. I was just excited because I havnt seen it like this for years lolz
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:58 am
True, the flood in a couple of hours.
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:00 am
Look at the server capacity now, subtract that from the server cap, and that's how many gold bots are. SRO would be completely dead.
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:08 am
reLaxx` wrote:Look at the server capacity now, subtract that from the server cap, and that's how many gold bots are. SRO would be completely dead.
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:23 am
i like being able to use the ALL chat in hotan and actually having a conversation lol, instead of trying to read what ppl right before it gets spammed away... We can only hope for servers filled with actually players playing
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:03 am
The bots arent updated yet.
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:12 am
Mindy wrote:The bots arent updated yet.
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:41 am
This time it might take quite a while for the bots to update since Joymax scrambled all the opcodes for the Gameserver, this is not a bulletproof(nothing really is) solution but as stated on their website this 'restriction' will slow down bots by a fair amount mostly because no one was expecting such a change to occur(although a new protection system was expected).
Such a measure was taken by Joymax in the past too but this as previously stated only comes as a slight frustration and of course such changes can be recognized automatically via byte signatures but I doubt most Silkroad developers were prepared before hand.
Let us hope that this is only the blare of the horn before the battle really starts. A full scrambling of opcodes + a better protection system might put an end to both packet & memory based bots once and for all but only if they keep switching tactics and updating their security.
Such a measure was taken by Joymax in the past too but this as previously stated only comes as a slight frustration and of course such changes can be recognized automatically via byte signatures but I doubt most Silkroad developers were prepared before hand.
Let us hope that this is only the blare of the horn before the battle really starts. A full scrambling of opcodes + a better protection system might put an end to both packet & memory based bots once and for all but only if they keep switching tactics and updating their security.
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:44 am
Thanks for the information.
I was just thinking of something like that, about changing something the bots just can't do a quick fix.
I was just thinking of something like that, about changing something the bots just can't do a quick fix.
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:54 am
Wow, 3 hours after an inspection and all servers mostly still green... That's something...
But also, it could only mean TONS of people just use SBOT... and maybe the new "system" is giving shiva a hard time coming up with a new bot. LoL!
But also, it could only mean TONS of people just use SBOT... and maybe the new "system" is giving shiva a hard time coming up with a new bot. LoL!
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:23 am
changed opcodes means no bot will work till they have found out what the new codes are...
apart from the servers being utterly empty.. lag is starting to annoy everyone, even without bots
apart from the servers being utterly empty.. lag is starting to annoy everyone, even without bots
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:30 am
@12:13
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:31 am
gz to JM, did well IMO.
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:53 am
They've stopped a fair amount of them. That's why I still have faith in them.
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:57 am
Well I'll be damned. Reminds me of when Europe first came out. I give it 2 days - 1 week. Took about 3-4 days for the bots to come back in full force after Europe.
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:58 pm
the bots will be back in just a few hours..
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:02 pm
I remember back at 80 cap they did something like this it lasted about a week. Was the best week SRO ever had!
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:12 pm
hope this time it will work.
if so, ill be back to sro
if so, ill be back to sro
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:16 pm
Have faith in the silly asians. 
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:17 pm
lol @ everyone getting their hopes up. They will find a way to crack it...give it a few days.
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:25 pm
Fury wrote:lol @ everyone getting their hopes up. They will find a way to crack it...give it a few hours.
fix'd
UPDATE: New bot version is almost ready, please be patient. Several security checks have to be applied now. Please check back later.
but yeah.. enjoy it while it lasts
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:39 pm
hmm could they do this every week? sure would be alot more beneficial then a new avatar suit imo
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:48 pm
Fury wrote:lol @ everyone getting their hopes up. They will find a way to crack it...give it a few days.
Ofcourse they will find a way to crack it. Why for example do you think virusscanners have updates? Newer virusses come out, so do newer bots come out. It will always be a cat and mouse game between the developers and the makers of the bots.
The only problem is that JM doesnt update if a new bot comes out.
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:50 pm
The botters in my guild logged on, they have the latest version... >.<
And i was all like,
And i was all like,
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:07 pm
Apollion wrote:i like being able to use the ALL chat in hotan and actually having a conversation lol, instead of trying to read what ppl right before it gets spammed away... We can only hope for servers filled with actually players playing
So just /ban all of the spam bots before trying to have a conversation in all chat. I know you shouldn't HAVE to do that, but it's a nice workaround until the spam bots are all banned someday.
w00t wrote:Fury wrote:lol @ everyone getting their hopes up. They will find a way to crack it...give it a few days.
Ofcourse they will find a way to crack it. Why for example do you think virusscanners have updates? Newer virusses come out, so do newer bots come out. It will always be a cat and mouse game between the developers and the makers of the bots.
The only problem is that JM doesnt update if a new bot comes out.
Exactly. I know I've said before something along these same lines. If Joymax is changing things in the game, like the opcodes, they need to do it on a regular basis, perhaps every week at inspection. The bot makers will always find a way to crack Joymax's security, but Joymax just needs to patch it quickly to keep them out.
It's like security in any other information system. Security is not just a one-time solution. It's an ongoing process. You always have to keep your security up to date to counter the latest attacks.
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:13 pm
aishsharma wrote:hmm could they do this every week? sure would be alot more beneficial then a new avatar suit imo
Nope, it's just that the bot developers didn't expect such a tactic from JM as changing opcodes. It only took them what.. 9 hours or so to release a new bot today.
If they did do it again the bots would be able to patch much quicker next time.
Re: Wow?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:58 pm
I dont care how long it lasts. I love it. I logged in last night, and actually saw a trade. Took part in a nice Hotan-Sam.And just sitting in Hotan, people were actually talking haha, sitting in little groups by various vendors. Best time on silkroad I've had in quite sometime. Joymax just gained a bit back in my book lol.