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Hey, first off, I'm hoping this is the right section for this post? hehe
Anyways,

I just wanted to find out if anyone knew whether or not using a premium plus AND a SP skill Ticket "double doubled" your skill experience?

For instance, lets say I get "X" amount of skill experience when grinding with NO premium and NO sp ticket. I then get a premium plus which gives me double skill experience "XX" amount (when GT is on obviously). If I then get a SP skill ticket as well as the premium plus, will the "XX" amount of skill xp I currently gain get doubled when I use the SP skill ticket, giving me "XXX" amount of skill experience compared to just the "X" amount I gained when I had no prem or sp ticket?

You may have to read the bit above a few times to get your head around what I'm trying to ask here, lol

Many thanks to those whom give replies
Look Forward to reading them!

With Your GT and sp ticket stacked, you will get "xxx" amount of sp. Unstacked you will get "xxxx" amount. Im fairly certain thats how it works.

Tickets only increase ur 'base'-(s)xp

If u have Prem+ & 100% sp ticket:
Normal: u get 500xp & 200sxp per mob
While in both ticket time: 1000xp & 600sxp

Razorhead wrote:Tickets only increase ur 'base'-(s)xp

If u have Prem+ & 100% sp ticket:
Normal: u get 500xp & 200sxp per mob
While in both ticket time: 1000xp & 600sxp

So it's better to not have ur premium time and SP ticket at the same moment but at another time?

To get maximum effect of GT and SP ticket, its best to have them unstacked, i.e, not together.

Fury wrote:To get maximum effect of GT and SP ticket, its best to have them unstacked, i.e, not together.

Oh really, why is that? It would still be the same stacked or unstacked, unstacked = you grind 6-8 hours a day instead of 3 altogether, you get the same exp regardless.

=> premium = base xp and sp x2(+100%)
if
=>sp ticket => base sp +100%
then stack or not stack it will be the same.
if
=>sp ticket =>sp you gain +100%
then stack will be better
w/e it do have them unstack if not benefit.

just stack them (makes no difference), no one wants to grind 8 hours of ticket time a day

I am using this as an example from nivlam.

Lvl 92 with an 8 gap gets 101,117 sp from 0% to 100%, with prem+ and sp ticket on you get 151,675 sp for 0% to 100%,
with just an sp ticket you get 202,234 sp. So its really self explanatory, grind without prem+ to get more sp, because with both its only half efficient.

Juicy wrote:I am using this as an example from nivlam.

Lvl 92 with an 8 gap gets 101,117 sp from 0% to 100%, with prem+ and sp ticket on you get 151,675 sp for 0% to 100%,
with just an sp ticket you get 202,234 sp. So its really self explanatory, grind without prem+ to get more sp, because with both its only half efficient.

K, not sure if this is true but I have to agree with others saying that it won't make a difference.

Example: (Using Prem Gold)
No Prem nor SP = 1 Sp
Prem but no Sp = 2 Sp
Prem with Sp = 3 Sp

For 3 hrs of grinding you get 3x Sp. Sure you can grind for 6hrs, 3hrs with just prem on and then another 3 hrs with just Sp ticket on, and you'll get and extra base Sp. why? Cause you invested 3hrs more of grinding. What's the difference in grinding for 3 hrs with prem and Sp then grind 3 hrs more without any tickets? Using them all the same time will be easier to finish them which takes out the pressure of finishing them up in a day. Specially if you don't have a lot of time to play.

with prem+ and sp ticket you only get 50% more sp then the base sp for lvl 92 8 gap (101,117).
Because 0.5 x 101,117 = 50558.5, and 101,117 + 50558.5 = 151675.5.
Imo if you're farming sp only use a sp ticket =/

[quote="Juicy":.....]with prem+ and sp ticket you only get 50% more sp then the base sp for lvl 92 8 gap (101,117).
Because 0.5 x 101,117 = 50558.5, and 101,117 + 50558.5 = 151675.5.
Imo if you're farming sp only use a sp ticket =/[/quote:.....]

Nope, you get 200% More SP with Prem and Ticket on. I've tried this several times. If you want try it yourself. Kill a mob when your Prem and Sp ticket are not on then write down the SP you'll get. Then kill the same mob when your Prem and SP are on. Reg mobs, not Pt mobs and you only need to kill one to prove this.

I'm not sure where you're getting your calcuations or I'm just not seeing yor point. As you said, Lv 92 from 0% - 100% will give you 101,117 SP also with 8 gaps base on Nivlam. With Prem and SP, it'll be triple that. 101,117 SP x 3 = 303,351 SP but forget about Nivlam, try what I suggested above.

If you DON’T want to level, then only buy sp ticket. Aka, farming at ongs. If you are just trying to get more sp when grinding, or are like level one hundredteen or something, then stack them. Only a moron wouldn’t stack them. No matter what each doubles your base sp gain.

robustica wrote:just stack them (makes no difference), no one wants to grind 8 hours of ticket time a day

agreed because if you unstack them the grinding hours are now DOUBLED!!!! ARGH LIKE 10 HOURS OF GRINDING A DAY NPOAWAFJAJGJAWJGA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Meloku wrote:

Juicy wrote:with prem+ and sp ticket you only get 50% more sp then the base sp for lvl 92 8 gap (101,117).
Because 0.5 x 101,117 = 50558.5, and 101,117 + 50558.5 = 151675.5.
Imo if you're farming sp only use a sp ticket =/

Nope, you get 200% More SP with Prem and Ticket on. I've tried this several times. If you want try it yourself. Kill a mob when your Prem and Sp ticket are not on then write down the SP you'll get. Then kill the same mob when your Prem and SP are on. Reg mobs, not Pt mobs and you only need to kill one to prove this.

I'm not sure where you're getting your calcuations or I'm just not seeing yor point. As you said, Lv 92 from 0% - 100% will give you 101,117 SP also with 8 gaps base on Nivlam. With Prem and SP, it'll be triple that. 101,117 SP x 3 = 303,351 SP but forget about Nivlam, try what I suggested above.

I'm getting my calculations from http://nivlam.igamelegit.com/, because they have the ticket part of the sp gapping chart, and when I click on Lvl 92 8 gap and select 100% full time ticket meaning prem, then I select 100% sp ticket the value it says is 151,675 sp, and when I make the 'Full Time' value 0%, leaving the sp ticket at 100% it says 202,234 sp.

Even then a prem gold time for instance is 2x exp/sxp, the lowest common multiple is 1. So the exp and sxp will not change because you're leveling faster getting more sxp(what I mean by this is say you get 10xp and 10 sxp without prem, with prem you get 20xp and 20sxp) now if you add a skill ticket to that it would just be like 1x exp and 2x sxp, which I think the value for Prem gold and sp ticket at the same time should be the same as just a sp ticket alone. (202,234 sp)

diotron123 wrote:Hey, first off, I'm hoping this is the right section for this post? hehe
Anyways,

I just wanted to find out if anyone knew whether or not using a premium plus AND a SP skill Ticket "double doubled" your skill experience?

For instance, lets say I get "X" amount of skill experience when grinding with NO premium and NO sp ticket. I then get a premium plus which gives me double skill experience "XX" amount (when GT is on obviously). If I then get a SP skill ticket as well as the premium plus, will the "XX" amount of skill xp I currently gain get doubled when I use the SP skill ticket, giving me "XXX" amount of skill experience compared to just the "X" amount I gained when I had no prem or sp ticket?

You may have to read the bit above a few times to get your head around what I'm trying to ask here, lol

Many thanks to those whom give replies
Look Forward to reading them!

Short answer: Yes, they DO stack.

your ratio stays the same stacked and unstacked

you get normal ratio (i dunno lets play with some easy numbers)
2:1
prem+ you would get
2:1 still because it increase both
sp ticket would make it
2:2
sp ticket+prem
would make it 2:2 still

uhh i think thats confusing to myself but makes sense to me.

i think ratio decreases if you have both ticket and prem on while grinding all the time. premium doesn't increase your total xp:sxp, it just decreases the time you need to get to the next level. if you're supposed to get 10 sp in one level and you use prem for that level you'll still get 10 sp in that level.

so because this speed is doubled the bonus sp you're supposed to gain for that level is decreased overall if you use sp ticket. granted you'll still get more sp in the sp ticket time, but your sp gained for each level is less than sp ticket without prem.

just clearing it up.

wootpops wrote:your ratio stays the same stacked and unstacked

you get normal ratio (i dunno lets play with some easy numbers)
2:1
prem+ you would get
2:1 still because it increase both
sp ticket would make it
2:2
sp ticket+prem
would make it 2:2 still

uhh i think thats confusing to myself but makes sense to me.

I was getting at that same concept too, but starting off with 1:1 for the regular exp/sxp then 2:2 with prem, which stays 1:1 essentially. Then prem and sp ticket 1:2, sp ticket alone 1:2.

EDIT: Was a bit groggy trying to explain what I was getting at in my earlier post, sorry if people misunderstood me =/