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New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:00 pm
by Hellraider
I was bored and i calculated the (in theory) correct SP gain you get from any gap between 91 and 100, as the EXP required seemed to have changed since the last time they updated nivlam's SP/gap.
The only problem is, that i can't calculate the SP required from 100 to 100 99%, as the source i had for the old EXP requirements, only had until 100.
I already noticed there is a big difference in the SP gain if i calculated it myself before, that's why i wanted to do this, this can be very usefull to calculate how much SP you gain from 0 gapping to 100, which makes a lot of difference for all of you Ong farmers
Now i used Excel and calculated a new chart
http://www.easy-share.com/1905507954/sp.txt to download the new SP chart from 91 to 100.
My calculations show, you'll get 202,079 SP, while Nivlam calculates 115,991 SP. Now from 1 to 100 (lvl99, 99%), you'll get instead of 338,998 SP, 385,086 SP
Also, there is an enormous increase in SP gained/lvl as you get closer to 100, sometimes more then 2x as much.
Re: New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:34 pm
by Mirosuke
So, what you trying to say is the sp gained has increased?
or just from 91 to 100?

i'm a bit confused.
Re: New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:37 pm
by KillAndChill
Nice, now I can level some useless skills with the extra SP =D
Re: New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:08 pm
by Amarisa
nivlam is an estimation not 100% correct.
Re: New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:09 pm
by chesticles
Lady_Shadows wrote:nivlam is an estimation not 100% correct.
correct its 99.99% correct. Only JM knows the perfect forumla :p
Re: New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:19 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_ยด)
i'd still rather farm 100k more than less.
Re: New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:32 pm
by NuclearSilo
So JM increased sp again to for ppl to buy gold, sp ticket?
Re: New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:42 pm
by Rozelady
i noticed...
i checked how much i would gain on a 7 gap on 94, and nivlam said around 70k...
now, i am on 18% and i already gained 23k sp.. i mean, thats gonna be a difference of what, 45k SP when i reach 95!
(no, no tickets or whatsoever)
Re: New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:04 am
by Mirosuke
Lady_Shadows wrote:nivlam is an estimation not 100% correct.
But a correct estimation. It worked for every farmed character i have.
Re: New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:33 am
by .curve
NuclearSilo wrote:So JM increased sp again to for ppl to buy gold, sp ticket?
if I'm understanding right, then it's the other way around. The amount of SP needed is the same, but the amount gained is increased.
Right?
Re: New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:08 am
by EvGa
That's right. Nuclear doesn't read, he just looks for ways to bash the game/joymax.
Hope your chart is correct, that's cool.
Re: New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:57 am
by NuclearSilo
That's right, i'll never believe JM will do smt to please the customers
Re: New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:18 am
by TheDrop
NuclearSilo wrote:That's right, i'll never believe JM will do smt to please the customers
They sure please customers than have huge loads to waste

Re: New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:44 pm
by Hellraider
This is only a theory, only way this would have been calculated, is to keep the xp:sp comparison you get from 1 mob the same.
If anyone is interested, here are the calculation methods i used:
Original EXP required chart (Lvl90 is the same as before, lvl100 was not included):
91: 305888332,00
92: 331303748,00
93: 357968787,00
94: 385935560,00
95: 415258156,00
96: 445992756,00
97: 478197705,00
98: 511933580,00
99: 547263228,00
New chart:
91: 369337595,00
92: 473538898,00
93: 430636533,00
94: 688586209,00
95: 686078166,00
96: 630281734,00
97: 843249355,00
98: 963955058,00
99: 1322659532,00
100: 1406035568,00
Now, all i did was divide the EXP required in the new chart, by the EXP required in the old chart.
For example EXP required in the old chart at lvl98: 511933580 EXP, new chart: 963955058 EXP
511933580 EXP / 963955058 EXP = 1.88 (about)
Now, i multiplied the SP gained at lvl98, at any gap, by 1.88. Example:
lvl98 with gap 9 (From Nivlam): 130862 SP
130862 SP * 1.88 = 230760 SP
Re: New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:44 pm
by NuclearSilo
yes, it means that they increased the exp requirement by 1.88 times
Re: New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:17 pm
by VeniVidiVici
There's one weird thing. At some lvls you get less sp then the lvl before. Example(based on this chart):92-93 gives 16846 while 93-94 gives 14841 sp at 0 gap both.
Re: New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:42 pm
by Hellraider
VeniVidiVici wrote:There's one weird thing. At some lvls you get less sp then the lvl before. Example(based on this chart):92-93 gives 16846 while 93-94 gives 14841 sp at 0 gap both.
Because the EXP requirement from 93-94 is less then 92-93
Re: New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:55 pm
by VeniVidiVici
[SW]Hellraider wrote:VeniVidiVici wrote:There's one weird thing. At some lvls you get less sp then the lvl before. Example(based on this chart):92-93 gives 16846 while 93-94 gives 14841 sp at 0 gap both.
Because the EXP requirement from 93-94 is less then 92-93
o.O how's that possible?
Re: New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:59 pm
by NuclearSilo
error in coding, nothing is impossible with jm
either the exp required is less or the exp given by that mob at that lvl is lower
Re: New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:19 pm
by Rhe7oric
So if Nivlam is incorrect, how much SP would I really need to bring my skills up from level 82 to 100? According to Nivlam, I need about 1.6 million SP just to level all those alone. Of course, it means all the buff and heals of the Cleric class, and most of the wizard nukes maxed except for things that you don't need a prerequisite skill for (such as the AoE Combustion Status skill or Life Turnover). My character is currently level 91.
Re: New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:58 pm
by pizzagirl2008
Rhe7oric wrote:So if Nivlam is incorrect, how much SP would I really need to bring my skills up from level 82 to 100? According to Nivlam, I need about 1.6 million SP just to level all those alone. Of course, it means all the buff and heals of the Cleric class, and most of the wizard nukes maxed except for things that you don't need a prerequisite skill for (such as the AoE Combustion Status skill or Life Turnover). My character is currently level 91.
1.6m

dude just refarm your char @ ongs...it'll take half the time or less than going on gap
Re: New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:13 am
by Amarisa
pizzagirl2008 wrote:Rhe7oric wrote:So if Nivlam is incorrect, how much SP would I really need to bring my skills up from level 82 to 100? According to Nivlam, I need about 1.6 million SP just to level all those alone. Of course, it means all the buff and heals of the Cleric class, and most of the wizard nukes maxed except for things that you don't need a prerequisite skill for (such as the AoE Combustion Status skill or Life Turnover). My character is currently level 91.
1.6m

dude just refarm your char @ ongs...it'll take half the time or less than going on gap
so there sapose to delvl from what lvl there at to 15 or so? lul wut
Re: New charts SP gain from 91-100
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:56 am
by VeniVidiVici
Rhe7oric wrote:So if Nivlam is incorrect, how much SP would I really need to bring my skills up from level 82 to 100? According to Nivlam, I need about 1.6 million SP just to level all those alone. Of course, it means all the buff and heals of the Cleric class, and most of the wizard nukes maxed except for things that you don't need a prerequisite skill for (such as the AoE Combustion Status skill or Life Turnover). My character is currently level 91.
Nivlam isn't incorrect about sp calculation, just about the sp per lvl from 91-100