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Question to archers
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 7:51 pm
by loveisintheair
What is your experience with the hawks like? Are both (blue and light) needed?
A union mate claims that the lightning hawk is useless and that he only uses the blue hawk.
Is the hit ratio increase superior to the physical attack of the lightning hawk?
Re: Question to archers
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 7:57 pm
by zShared
attack rating > the other one
Re: Question to archers
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:41 pm
by Crowley
I've always liked the Black and Lightning Hawks more. Attack Rating, like Parry Ratio doesn't make a big difference.
Re: Question to archers
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:21 pm
by tuinman159
Tsume wrote:I've always liked the Black and Lightning Hawks more. Attack Rating, like Parry Ratio doesn't make a big difference.
not a big difference??
omg, have you ever played sro? use a trigger scroll and see the difference, jeesus f*cking christ
Re: Question to archers
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:31 pm
by Crowley
tuinman159 wrote:Tsume wrote:I've always liked the Black and Lightning Hawks more. Attack Rating, like Parry Ratio doesn't make a big difference.
not a big difference??
omg, have you ever played sro? use a trigger scroll and see the difference, jeesus f*cking christ
Jesus Fu
cking Christ, Attack Rating will change your damage from 10,000 to 10,010.
I'll bet you $1000 that the Hawk's damage will be more than the slight attack increase you get from AR.
Re: Question to archers
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:56 pm
by loveisintheair
tuinman159 wrote:Tsume wrote:I've always liked the Black and Lightning Hawks more. Attack Rating, like Parry Ratio doesn't make a big difference.
use a trigger scroll and see the difference,
Trigger scroll: 30% difference, hawk: 8.25% (relative to my current hit ratio).
Now tell me if it makes the same difference in my case compared to the light hawk.
Re: Question to archers
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 10:20 pm
by zShared
Tsume wrote:tuinman159 wrote:Tsume wrote:I've always liked the Black and Lightning Hawks more. Attack Rating, like Parry Ratio doesn't make a big difference.
not a big difference??
omg, have you ever played sro? use a trigger scroll and see the difference, jeesus f*cking christ
Jesus Fu
cking Christ, Attack Rating will change your damage from 10,000 to 10,010.
I'll bet you $1000 that the Hawk's damage will be more than the slight attack increase you get from AR.
Attack rating and parry ratio are VERY important.
I'd take a 80% parry ratio over any other white on a garment.
Do you even know what attack rating does..?
level 98 staff:
Mag. attack power 3368 ~ 4010
Higher attack rating means that you will hit closer to the 4010 most of the time. Big difference.
Re: Question to archers
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 10:45 pm
by Crowley
Oh my god, of course I know what AR does. IMO it's still not very good. Just MAYBE there's a CHANCE that you will hit TOWARDS your max damage. I'd much rather take Hawk damage over that. And this isn't about 80% PR on your whites. This is about like a 10% increase in AR.
Re: Question to archers
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 10:53 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_ยด)
Tsume wrote:I've always liked the Black and Lightning Hawks more. Attack Rating, like Parry Ratio doesn't make a big difference.
parr does, but not much with that weak light buff.
mostly only with dodging scrolls.
most noticable while fighting people who hit alot, i.e. bladers(chains) or many green mobs bashing you.
OT:
Attack hawks for a full str bower since the attack is low anyway and the attack hawk will be hitting high compared to the bowers attacks
Attack rating hawks for more int sided bowers (1:1-full int) since they have a very high damage
and the attack hawk wont make much of a difference in the massive damage out put.
so its to maximize the massive damage.
... joymax should've made both hawks accessible at the same time
Re: Question to archers
Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 12:01 am
by Aiyas
If there is any truth to what the last hawk book does(from what i saw on Konpaku), then it might be worth it to bet both types of hawk.
EDIT:
from
http://www.silkroadonline.wiki.br/skill ... =740#skill Mastery 120
MP 4.189
Required skill Lightning Hawk Summon Level 12
Continuous hours 900 Secound
Physical attack power 4.744
Attack rating 41 Increase
But again, this is
supposed to be at lv 120, so take it for what it's worth.
Re: Question to archers
Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 12:40 am
by Messiah
Tsume wrote:I've always liked the Black and Lightning Hawks more. Attack Rating, like Parry Ratio doesn't make a big difference.
I agree with you. I have both farmed but I like Lightening Hawk a bit more because it does a considerable amount of damage maxed. But like I said I have both farmed so I switch it up every now and again.
AR is important BUT I think its funny when someone dies to my Lightening Hawk lol
Re: Question to archers
Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 12:41 am
by Azilius
PvE
Use DPS hawk for obvious reasons
PvP
AR hawk.
The chance to have a higher crit..well you're a bowmen I shouldn't need to explain.
Re: Question to archers
Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 12:42 am
by Vinyl
Why is this in GD?
Re: Question to archers
Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 1:12 am
by Fury
Azilius wrote:PvE
Use DPS hawk for obvious reasons
PvP
AR hawk.
The chance to have a higher crit..well you're a bowmen I shouldn't need to explain.
This. And AR does make a dif especially when u combine it with devil bow.
Re: Question to archers
Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 1:30 am
by Diaty
Azilius wrote:PvE
Use DPS hawk for obvious reasons
PvP
AR hawk.
The chance to have a higher crit..well you're a bowmen I shouldn't need to explain.
I hope you are saying higher crit damage, as the in the higher end of the damage, not increase in chance of getting a crit. Otherwise, I agree fully, and I do the same.
Re: Question to archers
Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 2:18 am
by Azilius
Diaty wrote:Azilius wrote:PvE
Use DPS hawk for obvious reasons
PvP
AR hawk.
The chance to have a higher crit..well you're a bowmen I shouldn't need to explain.
I hope you are saying higher crit damage, as the in the higher end of the damage, not increase in chance of getting a crit. Otherwise, I agree fully, and I do the same.
I thought that was a given
Re: Question to archers
Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 11:40 am
by Tig3ress
tuinman159 wrote:Tsume wrote:I've always liked the Black and Lightning Hawks more. Attack Rating, like Parry Ratio doesn't make a big difference.
not a big difference??
omg, have you ever played sro? use a trigger scroll and see the difference, jeesus f*cking christ
HAVE A SNAP
Re: Question to archers
Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 1:11 pm
by Kori0129
stop using Jesus's name for expressing yourself in a vulgar way. It's annoying
Attack Ratting is important .
Re: Question to archers
Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 4:35 pm
by loveisintheair
Kori0129 wrote:stop using Jesus's name for expressing yourself in a vulgar way. It's annoying
+1
Kori0129 wrote:Attack Ratting is important .
Doesn't tell me much. After reading through the whole thread, I am still not sure which one to go with.
Re: Question to archers
Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 4:43 pm
by Azilius
loveisintheair wrote:Doesn't tell me much. After reading through the whole thread, I am still not sure which one to go with.
Both.
DPS for PvE
AR for PvP
Posted a bit up there ^
Re: Question to archers
Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 4:50 pm
by Fury
If you had to choose 1 tho, id go for AR.
Re: Question to archers
Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 4:57 pm
by Barotix
Not C&S.