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SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:45 am
by CloudStrider
Hey guys,

I haven't been online in a while because of the new client, but I have still reasd this forum sparingly.

I found this other game which I haven't played yet, I went on the forum and found this thread: http://bbs.talismanonline.com/forums/viewthread.php?tid=6773&extra=page%3D1&page=1

Since I haven't been on in a while, I don't know if things have changed, but from what I remeber, bots where a problem.

Anyway, these guys are complaining about how a botter on gets banned for 7 days within 30 minutes and how GM's dont do enough?

I consider them lucky.

My question is, are we lucky or unlucky in terms of botting compared to other games?

I haven't played in ages so botting could all be alright now, I don't know.

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 7:17 am
by FireFly
UNLUCKY Traffic is the #1 reason I left the game recently. Sad to see something with so much potential get wasted away by a poorly managed company.

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 7:22 am
by Mirosuke
FireFly wrote:UNLUCKY Traffic is the #1 reason I left the game recently. Sad to see something with so much potential get wasted away by a poorly managed company.


this

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 8:33 am
by Puma60
Theres a difference between player bots and gold bots. Gold bots clog up the servers with hundreds of level 1's standing idle at DW NPC's. At least player bots are doing something constructive

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 9:03 am
by CloudStrider
Puma60 wrote:Theres a difference between player bots and gold bots. Gold bots clog up the servers with hundreds of level 1's standing idle at DW NPC's. At least player bots are doing something constructive


I wouldn't call it constructive.

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 9:28 am
by Alfred
Puma60 wrote:Theres a difference between player bots and gold bots.
You should have stopped there.

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 11:41 am
by NuclearSilo
Puma60 wrote:Theres a difference between player bots and gold bots. Gold bots clog up the servers with hundreds of level 1's standing idle at DW NPC's. At least player bots are doing something constructive

Gold bots are run by player bots. Player bot is his masters :roll:

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 11:51 am
by .curve
NuclearSilo wrote:
Puma60 wrote:Theres a difference between player bots and gold bots. Gold bots clog up the servers with hundreds of level 1's standing idle at DW NPC's. At least player bots are doing something constructive

Gold bots are run by player bots. Player bot is his masters :roll:


The majority of gold bots are run by gold selling companies.

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 12:26 pm
by NuclearSilo
.curve wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
Puma60 wrote:Theres a difference between player bots and gold bots. Gold bots clog up the servers with hundreds of level 1's standing idle at DW NPC's. At least player bots are doing something constructive

Gold bots are run by player bots. Player bot is his masters :roll:


The majority of gold bots are run by gold selling companies.

And do you know how many botters who multi-run 40 gold bots and called themself "companies"?

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 1:35 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
do you know?

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 1:56 pm
by Dyegov
Definitely not fair that they complain. 30 mins? I wish that happened on sro. Sadly it won't ever happen.

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 1:57 pm
by CeLL
Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:do you know?

id bet i could name one of them in this thread. :roll:

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 2:11 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
i can name three from my server too, but noone can name enough for sure to compare with the bot companies.

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 2:22 pm
by SilentShade
CloudStrider wrote:
My question is, are we lucky or unlucky in terms of botting compared to other games?


More than unlucky.

I dont know any game, which is that full of bots like SRO. Sure there are bots for almost every single online game, ofc there are botters in every game, BUT botting is not that "popular" in other games either because the community is not that farked up like SRO ones is, or they get banned there.

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 3:15 pm
by penfold1992
on most games which includes bots and cheats the botters dont effect the game play of people.
perfect world
guild wars
WoW
Flyff
Mu online

NONE OF WHICH EFFECTS YOUR GAME PLAY!

i mean jack the prices up by all means but nicking my grinding spot, making hotan lag like HELL and bots whoring you as you leave the city. unique hunting whores. and many other problems not even worth quoting them all

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 3:54 pm
by zShared
.curve wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
Puma60 wrote:Theres a difference between player bots and gold bots. Gold bots clog up the servers with hundreds of level 1's standing idle at DW NPC's. At least player bots are doing something constructive

Gold bots are run by player bots. Player bot is his masters :roll:


The majority of gold bots are run by gold selling companies.

And do you know how many botters who multi-run 40 gold bots and called themself "companies"?
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Not nearly as many as you think. It's the goldbot companies that run dedicated servers on multiple IPs running hundreds of goldbots (If not thousands) that ruin iSRO.
Sure there's a few people who run their 15 sbot's, or 30 isrobot clientless.. but you have no idea how time consuming it is for one person to do. If they have a job or school it's nearly impossible. People who work for gold companies do it for their job, so it's not as hard for them.

oh yeah, ontopic.. uhh, they have it a lot better than us. Report, they get a week ban.. 7 days later report them again? If there's enough players it shouldn't be difficult at all.

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 4:41 pm
by NuclearSilo
Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:do you know?

I don't know too... But only in this forum, there're already more than 5 ppl that run 40+ clientless (who are in exposed botter section atm).
This conclude that gold bots not only belong to a gold company, but player bots too, lots of them.

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 4:48 pm
by BuDo
I just got back from a long break of not playing SRO (Because of the logging in issues as well as getting real bored of SRO's problems)....I just tried to log on a few minutes ago..and cant...I think that answers your question. We are unlucky and gaymax is the worst.

This forum provides more entertainment than the game itself...and thats sad..

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 5:17 pm
by .curve
NuclearSilo wrote:
Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:do you know?

I don't know too... But only in this forum, there're already more than 5 ppl that run 40+ clientless (who are in exposed botter section atm).
This conclude that gold bots not only belong to a gold company, but player bots too, lots of them.


I know that player bots run gold bots, but to say that player run gold bots take up more server space than gold selling company gold bots is just wrong.

Most player bots only run ~10 gold bots at most. Enough to keep them moderately comfortable when it comes to gold.

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 5:27 pm
by IceCrash
hmmmm
1000 players botting
10x1000


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you get there.

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 5:41 pm
by NuclearSilo
.curve wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:do you know?

I don't know too... But only in this forum, there're already more than 5 ppl that run 40+ clientless (who are in exposed botter section atm).
This conclude that gold bots not only belong to a gold company, but player bots too, lots of them.


I know that player bots run gold bots, but to say that player run gold bots take up more server space than gold selling company gold bots is just wrong.

Most player bots only run ~10 gold bots at most. Enough to keep them moderately comfortable when it comes to gold.

Actually, there're not much gold companies in the game. The main job of these companies is being a middle man, selling gold. The gold the got are from player bots who run gold bots. When player bots have exceed gold, they sell it to the gold companies. So the majority of ppl who bought gold thought that the source of the gold are from the gold companies, but actually it's from player bots. You got to know that the total gold a company gain a day from thier bots is not enough to provide to many clients in a day.

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 5:59 pm
by zShared
You're wrong NS. If it were the players they'd simply sell the gold themselves, if you've ever looked at selling to a goldcompany the prices are ridiculous. Noone would be that dumb. Also the people who run goldbots usually keep them in their own guild, like vortex for example, and keep the gold for themselves.
The random goldbots with names like dxfdhfg are goldcompany bots. Which are definitely the majority.

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:01 pm
by CeLL
NuclearSilo wrote: You got to know that the total gold we gain a day from our bots is not enough to provide to our clients in a day.


fixed.

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:45 pm
by NuclearSilo
CeLL wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote: You got to know that the total gold we gain a day from our bots is not enough to provide to our clients in a day.


fixed.

If you want an accusation, bring some proofs, mr.Legit:
85 ClerLock
90 Full Int Spear
84 Fire Blade
92 Ice Glaive
93 Wizard Cleric
89 3-Weapon Warrior/Charity Cleric
93 BardLock
92 80:80 Light Ice Bow
95 Rogue Bard
91 Hybrid Fire Light S/S
85 Cleric Bard
10 WarriorLock


zShared wrote:You're wrong NS. If it were the players they'd simply sell the gold themselves, if you've ever looked at selling to a goldcompany the prices are ridiculous. Noone would be that dumb. Also the people who run goldbots usually keep them in their own guild, like vortex for example, and keep the gold for themselves.

Selling gold is not as simple as sell a sandwich in real life. First you need to know how to create a website, design a website and a bit sql programming skills to record transaction and demands from the clients. Not all of the player bots know this, so the best way, they sell their gold to the gold companies with a lower price. I think you heard a lot about "buy cheap, sell high"

zShared wrote:The random goldbots with names like dxfdhfg are goldcompany bots. Which are definitely the majority.

That's kinda a ridiculous prejudice, no one stop a player bot to name his goldbot "afganjg". Ur just trying to avoid the fact that the player bots are responsible for the "goldbot army"

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:59 pm
by CeLL
The reactions people give if you list a bunch of numbers with character builds after them is hilarious.

it looks like thats the start of a guide on how to start your own gold selling business, lemme know when you post the finished product.

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 7:03 pm
by Gaigemasta
hey guyz, dont shred the dudez topic in a bot accusation topic, thats not very nice ^_^

But yes compared to other games we have it very unfair, we cant connect to the game becauase of them, at least in WoW u can connect hahaha

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 7:05 pm
by .curve
Gaige wrote:hey guyz, dont shred the dudez topic in a bot accusation topic, thats not very nice ^_^

But yes compared to other games we have it very unfair, we cant connect to the game becauase of them, at least in WoW u can connect hahaha


I love WoW. I'm on it now.
Rhymes.

Nuclear, no. It's funny watching you post. When you get an idea in your head that you think is right, you stick to it and try to justify it no matter how incorrect you are. Then you spout the same lines over and over like it's going to make what you say a fact or something. Like in this case.

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 7:10 pm
by NuclearSilo
and .curve is blah blah about smt he thinks he knows everything :roll:

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 7:31 pm
by TheDrop
Puma60 wrote:Theres a difference between player bots and gold bots. Gold bots clog up the servers with hundreds of level 1's standing idle at DW NPC's. At least player bots are doing something constructive

Constructive? I lol'd

Re: SRO Botting Compared to Other Games.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 7:49 pm
by .curve
NuclearSilo wrote:and .curve is blah blah about smt he thinks he knows everything :roll:


It's common sense, kid. Most botters don't have the hardware to run 40+ clients like gold companies do. Aside from that, there are very very few clientless bots out there these days. Gold selling companies have their own clientless bot they use.