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Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:04 am
by AUST_ZoRrO
Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Dear Joymax,

Please take note that high level players obtaining seal of star 8th degree can do nothing but NPC these items as they are not usable. If a level 90 obtains a lvl69 SOS item, it is useless for our level range.

I believe you should change this so that SEAL OF STARS obtained through the POP CARD depend on our level range.

EXAMPLE.
Lv70-80 - Obtain 8D SOS
Lvl80-90 - Obtain 9D SOS
Lvl90-100 - Obtain 10D SOS

I hope you can take this consideration seriously.

Thank you.

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:11 am
by XMoshe
Agreed. Friend got 8d SoS glaive -_-' And he's like 94 lol

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:21 am
by Tig3ress
What i wouldent give for that Glaive...

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:50 am
by XMoshe
Well you can't trade it so he has no use for it =/

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:57 am
by EvGa
Got a 64 sos sword while trying for 90 sun sword. I'm level 94 s/s. -.-

EDIT: BUT, I did get a short rush when I saw "sword" written in the green orb.

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:00 am
by Puma60
Someone on Rome got 10D sun sword with just 1 card. I on the other hand, got 2 64 sos swords after 10 cards :D

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:03 am
by alpropos
So, wait

If you select the staff for example
So if you lose, that means you still would get a sos/som weapon for any degree?


And whats up with the subscription cards

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:13 am
by AUST_ZoRrO
alpropos wrote:So, wait

If you select the staff for example
So if you lose, that means you still would get a sos/som weapon for any degree?

And whats up with the subscription cards


Incorrect. If you lose you will get something else like subscription card, elixirs, and 8th degree seal of star items. Getting a seal of moon from the POP cards is not possible - as JoyMax has not implemented such rewards. In other words level 100 players (in the near future) will still obtain 8th degree prizes from green cards - which is what I find UNJUSTIFIED!

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:37 am
by MrTwilliger
An sos 8D or a pack of 5 vigors, its your pick. Its joymax, quit complaining. The system sucks anyway, now you can buy items? Next thing we know they will make gold buying legal.

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:12 am
by fckl
pop card system - the best what could happen!
100$ -> sun weapon (probably)
so why should anyone buy 10b gold increasing at the same time the amount of goldbots to buy a sun with it if he can have it from JM directly and cheaper?

->sun prices will drop

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:16 am
by AUST_ZoRrO
fckl wrote:pop card system - the best what could happen!
100$ -> sun weapon (probably)
so why should anyone buy 10b gold increasing at the same time the amount of goldbots to buy a sun with it if he can have it from JM directly and cheaper?

->sun prices will drop


In a sense this does sound compelling. Gold company prices will drop dramatically as users attempt to obtain seal of sun items at significantly lower prices. Perhaps in a way this is ONE way in which they are tackling the gold farming industry.

An sos 8D or a pack of 5 vigors, its your pick. Its joymax, quit complaining. The system sucks anyway, now you can buy items? Next thing we know they will make gold buying legal.


The seal of star items from POP CARDS can be sold to an NPC for 0 gold. While the vigors can be sold for 3k. Realistically the vigors have more value. If gold buying was (or is) illegal then we would not be seeing all the servers filled with them farming.

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:13 pm
by firefox6
for some people with more then one char(on the same account) getting sos drops is great.

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:18 pm
by XMoshe
Got a reply yet?

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:28 pm
by Toshiharu
So basically you want everyone to obtain sos sets easily? The whole system itself is fail, but what can you do

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:07 pm
by Toasty
Well that means lower levels buying Pop Cards will get items, which arn't as worthwhile for them. So therefore they should get cheaper pop cards.

Either way, its a crap system. Money money money.

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:20 pm
by firefox6
yes it is all about money.. money makes the world go around. they are a business and they need to make money to pay for programmers updates bandwidth servers and so on. it is just the way it is. a business is out to make as much money as it can for it's inverters. and they are doing a good job on the business/money end of this business.

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:27 pm
by Fury
LOLOL, some guy on my server rekons he spent 1500silk already and he got nothing. Now he is bitching in globals lmao. JM will make a ton of money with this.

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:28 pm
by heroo
are the items repair invalid or not?

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:29 pm
by Toasty
heroo wrote:are the items repair invalid or not?


No. Just account locked.

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:30 pm
by heroo
WTF? so you can get a 10d SUN weap and use it forever? 0.0

there will be too much SUNS i think :(

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:34 pm
by firefox6
but it will be evened out with everyone having sun.. it will be back to pimping skill not just who has sun..

so many of use have never dropped sun.. like myself i have never dropped sun anything. i have used friends sun drops but never had my own.. now i have a better chance.

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:45 pm
by chickenfeather
I agree that flooding the market with suns will decrease the advantage goldbuyers and bots have in the game. I just hope the extra funds joymax gets from this are used to hire an active GM :( It's unlikely, I know.

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:54 pm
by Shinodo
I want RedBlueGreen to respond to this topic.
I hope he buys a crapload of silk and spends it on these pop cards, and posts what he gets.
Would be interesting.

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:01 pm
by RedBlueGreen
Shinodo wrote:I want RedBlueGreen to respond to this topic.
I hope he buys a crapload of silk and spends it on these pop cards, and posts what he gets.
Would be interesting.

well since i never buy silk.. (i pay people gold for silk) ... if i spend 2bill on buying silk.. and get a sun item.. i guess ill still be happy..

note:2bill in silk is like 2222 silk. or something :)

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:26 pm
by [TS]=Hark=[TS]
RedBlueGreen wrote:
Shinodo wrote:I want RedBlueGreen to respond to this topic.
I hope he buys a crapload of silk and spends it on these pop cards, and posts what he gets.
Would be interesting.

well since i never buy silk.. (i pay people gold for silk) ... if i spend 2bill on buying silk.. and get a sun item.. i guess ill still be happy..

note:2bill in silk is like 2222 silk. or something :)


so you pay ppl to give them your accoutn info? lmao ill buy silk for ya^^

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:48 pm
by RedBlueGreen
[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:
RedBlueGreen wrote:
Shinodo wrote:I want RedBlueGreen to respond to this topic.
I hope he buys a crapload of silk and spends it on these pop cards, and posts what he gets.
Would be interesting.

well since i never buy silk.. (i pay people gold for silk) ... if i spend 2bill on buying silk.. and get a sun item.. i guess ill still be happy..

note:2bill in silk is like 2222 silk. or something :)


so you pay ppl to give them your accoutn info? lmao ill buy silk for ya^^

not random people Y__Y...
people i have known for a long time, ppl that i trust... plus they dont buy it with paypal so they can never charge back.

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:23 pm
by [TS]=Hark=[TS]
sure they cant...

hope no one gets mad at you

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:47 pm
by fckerr
Write write complaints to Joymax hope they will make suns repair invalid , otherwise I will quit very soon.

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:49 pm
by William-CL
The only reason I haven't bought any of these, id because I'd only want an Sosun spear 10D ;p Not worth spending a ton of money on a chance like that.

Re: Pop Card System - Unjustified.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:47 am
by whorelock
simplify it to like 3rd or 4th grade English and i think they might understand it dont use words like obtain and consideration