Page 1 of 2

FW owner please check.....

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:48 pm
by F-22
fw owner check to see if your fw gold going down. for some reason our fw gold is continuing to drop.

anyone know why?

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:49 pm
by Ramidux
Because you set -20% tax instead of +20%?

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:52 pm
by F-22
nop, tax stil at 20%+

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:59 pm
by Sinner
You sure your GM haven`t took anything? Maybe he took a lil` ammount cuz he didn`t had gold for grinding? XD

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:00 pm
by Lempi
It's terrorist actions against Silkroad Online. They have already invaded the cave, and now they are stealing from the fortresses. It's Joymax's fault, Osama got KS'ed by a bot and it dropped a 90 SoSun Bomb, so he's pretty pissed atm.

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:02 pm
by F-22
you can only take fw gold at the weekend, you can not a little at a time. you must take all of it.

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:10 pm
by Sinner
F-22 wrote:you can only take fw gold at the weekend, you can not a little at a time. you must take all of it.

Well, maybe it has a connection with the taxes. Maybe the guy was right. Check your taxes %.. But.. I`m almost sure its JM`s fault..

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:20 pm
by Goobronicus
Or it's possible that people stopped buying pots etc in Jangan because they didn't want to pay the 20% taxes. It's like an 8k increase per 50 stack, meaning if someone potted up 300 xlarge hp and mp, they would pay an additional 128k; rather than set up in DW and spend 5k to teleport to Jangan.
I know that I won't pot up in Jangan lol.

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:59 pm
by Toasty
Goobronicus wrote:Or it's possible that people stopped buying pots etc in Jangan because they didn't want to pay the 20% taxes. It's like an 8k increase per 50 stack, meaning if someone potted up 300 xlarge hp and mp, they would pay an additional 128k; rather than set up in DW and spend 5k to teleport to Jangan.
I know that I won't pot up in Jangan lol.


I dont quite think that would make the gold go down.

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:35 pm
by Goobronicus
Do the math, 200+ people do it, 150 of them are bots that repot (lets say a small number like 5 times a day; meaning 640k per person there) + the 128k from the other 50 each totals....

150 x 640,000 = 96,000,000
50 x 128,000 = 6,400,000

102,400,000 per day.

Yep, you're right, that won't make the numbers go down.

Oh, and I'll finish the math for you. Two week period means

102,400,000 x 14 = 1,433,600,000

So, are you guys missing this much gold? :)

(This is all under the assumption that 200 people no longer pot in Jangan. Question that lies therin is exactly how many people are in the caves)

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:42 pm
by Azilius
Go down as in

I have 1,000,000 gold
5 seconds later
I have 500,000 gold

Yeesh.

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:48 pm
by Toasty
Azilius wrote:Go down as in

I have 1,000,000 gold
5 seconds later
I have 500,000 gold

Yeesh.


Yes, what he said. ;)

Some people think far too much. :roll:

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:51 pm
by Messiah
F-22 wrote:you can only take fw gold at the weekend, you can not a little at a time. you must take all of it.


WRONG.. You can take out only 100m at a time. SO if someone wanted they could leave money in the pot.

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:25 am
by El_Mio
some1 is stealing you!!

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:09 am
by Montolio
Lempi wrote:It's terrorist actions against Silkroad Online. They have already invaded the cave, and now they are stealing from the fortresses. It's Joymax's fault, Osama got KS'ed by a bot and it dropped a 90 SoSun Bomb, so he's pretty pissed atm.


lolwut?

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:35 am
by Toshiharu
Ramidux wrote:Because you set -20% tax instead of +20%?


-20% does not affect the gold pile.

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:46 am
by marjin_boo
Damn FW owner get billions and you're complaining. Who the hell knows, maybe because of the economic crisis?

I have stop buying pots in Jangan, now in DW.

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:21 am
by bomben
same happened on other servers. once they've reached 2b it went down for whatever reason

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:49 am
by OnlyMe
Messiah wrote:
F-22 wrote:you can only take fw gold at the weekend, you can not a little at a time. you must take all of it.


WRONG.. You can take out only 100m at a time. SO if someone wanted they could leave money in the pot.

Not really.. All money comes out in 1 go. Even 300 mil comes in 1 go..

And yeah, I heard Oasis got -9bil ( Someone said @ rev6 forums )

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:54 am
by Nitro
^Isnt Deacon owner of FW in Oasis? or did I mix something up...
I heared they got 150 mils before update, and after tomb opened, they got 750 mils...

huuh?!

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:08 am
by Davids
Maybe theres a system behind it and it isn't pure black and white.
Maybe you only get the tax if majority of people accept your tax raise and buy pots from Jangan. If people don't buy, you'll have to compensate to pot seller cause pots rotted away.

It would make sense if we were dealing with the real world. But knowing JoyMax I doubt it's true.

But anyway, try making tax -20% so more people will decide to visit Jangan for their shopping spree. And then for example weekend days put it to 20% :D

Most of the bots can use DH to repot :(

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:37 pm
by donkyle
Davids wrote:Maybe theres a system behind it and it isn't pure black and white.
Maybe you only get the tax if majority of people accept your tax raise and buy pots from Jangan. If people don't buy, you'll have to compensate to pot seller cause pots rotted away.

It would make sense if we were dealing with the real world. But knowing JoyMax I doubt it's true.

But anyway, try making tax -20% so more people will decide to visit Jangan for their shopping spree. And then for example weekend days put it to 20% :D

Most of the bots can use DH to repot :(


thats a good idea
you could put tax at -20% for 2 week and all the bots will set their spawn point to jangan :) then they might not notice when you turn it back to +20%

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:55 pm
by Messiah
OnlyMe wrote:
Messiah wrote:
F-22 wrote:you can only take fw gold at the weekend, you can not a little at a time. you must take all of it.


WRONG.. You can take out only 100m at a time. SO if someone wanted they could leave money in the pot.

Not really.. All money comes out in 1 go. Even 300 mil comes in 1 go..

And yeah, I heard Oasis got -9bil ( Someone said @ rev6 forums )



Yes really, It comes out in 100m increments when you are taking the money out. You click "Tax" (or whatever it is) and it gives you 100m each time you click.

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:17 pm
by OnlyMe
Messiah wrote:
OnlyMe wrote:WRONG.. You can take out only 100m at a time. SO if someone wanted they could leave money in the pot.

Not really.. All money comes out in 1 go. Even 300 mil comes in 1 go..

And yeah, I heard Oasis got -9bil ( Someone said @ rev6 forums )



Yes really, It comes out in 100m increments when you are taking the money out. You click "Tax" (or whatever it is) and it gives you 100m each time you click.[/quote]
Not really.. You Press " leyving " and it gives u all the gold in 1time..

Nitro wrote:^Isnt Deacon owner of FW in Oasis? or did I mix something up...
I heared they got 150 mils before update, and after tomb opened, they got 750 mils...

huuh?!

Dnno I read it at rev6..

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:34 pm
by F-22
WRONG.. You can take out only 100m at a time. SO if someone wanted they could leave money in the pot.

Not really.. All money comes out in 1 go. Even 300 mil comes in 1 go..

Yes really, It comes out in 100m increments when you are taking the money out. You click "Tax" (or whatever it is) and it gives you 100m each time you click.


when i said take gold a little at a time i did not mean 100mil increment. wat i really meant is that you cant go to npc each day and take any amount of gold.

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:29 pm
by Messiah
OnlyMe wrote:Not really.. You Press " leyving " and it gives u all the gold in 1time..


I'll fraps it Friday Night [under the circumstances my guild still holds fort] and prove to you that clicking "levy" gives you a 100m each time.

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:50 pm
by mutuka
i was just coming to SRF to check if anyone had the same problems and guess what
its happening on Mars too, we were about 2,3b gold then it turned negative and started going down
im waiting at west hew room to form a party so i cant go to fortress now, but i will later and screenshot to you guys
taxes are 20% and the gold only goes down
already sent joymax a bug report

edit: fortress gold takes out from 100m each time, this one was the one after cap opened
Image
Image
mars profits were 250m b4 update
927m after update ( 5 days only of tomb )
...
was on 2,3b already on saturday
we were going to have about 4b on the next levy
=/
pic of the bug still to come

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:04 pm
by bebrazz
Dude, its just global crisis

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:21 am
by Lion
its just a bug, troy fortress had about 2.5b in 1 week, went down to -900m :) lol and keeps decreasing..haha

anyways..its just a bug, i emailed JM, they replied within 6 hrs..was quite a good reply..and fast..here it is..

[Bug Report] Fortress tax gold calculation



Mar 28, 2009 04:40:09 am [Silkroad Online Standard Time]



Hello There,

The current tax rate for last whole week was 20%, and the amount accumulating in there is well over 2 billion gold. But as I see it now, the amount says -2 billion gold and it is decreasing gradually, even with the tax rate 20%.

Can you please look into this, or is there some information im missing pertaining this issue.

Thanks

Murtajis~



Reply from Silkroad Online

Mar 28, 2009 10:02:55 am [Silkroad Online Standard Time]



Hello, This is Silkroad Online.
Your question has been answered as below.

Dear Valued Customer,

Greeting from Joymax Customer Support Team!

We have received your email regarding Fortress tax gold calculation.
We are sorry for the inconvenience that this may have caused you.

We would like you to know that this issue has been taken care off. We already submit a report directly to our Game Operations team for further investigation. Rest assured that we will do our best to resolve this issue as soon as possible.

Thank you for your support and have a great day! ^_^v..

* Joymax will NEVER ask players about personal & account information, password, and credit card numbers, nor will they ever ask a player for a trade.
* To prevent the loss of accounts, we strongly recommend our users change password frequently.

Thank you for emailing Joymax Customer Support.
For further details and support, kindly visit our website at http://www.joymax.com/silkroad.

Sincerely yours,
Joymax Customer Support Team

Re: FW owner please check.....

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:36 pm
by xKingpinx
holy shit...do you guys actually divide this gold out between people? like how much per guild in your union..do they get?