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Can a mod please lock this potential flame war? Thanks!
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:51 pm
by Dyegov
Well, I know what most blues do, but I don't know what steady does. What is it for?
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:55 pm
by .curve
I believe Steady makes it so the item won't get a red stat upon failure when trying to + it.
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:01 pm
by RedBlueGreen
.curve wrote:I believe Steady makes it so the item won't get a red stat upon failure when trying to + it.
when trying for +6 or higher
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:02 pm
by Dyegov
So it doesn't do anything from +1 to +5?
I thought it was so your item didn't go back to +0 when failing. Isn't there any way to do that?
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:07 pm
by XMoshe
Dyegov wrote:So it doesn't do anything from +1 to +5?
I thought it was so your item didn't go back to +0 when failing. Isn't there any way to do that?
Only thing that can do such a thing is Astral. But it only works for +4 or higher (so if you fail +5/6/7/8 and so on it will go back to +4 (yes even if you try like +6->+7)
Immortal makes sure your item can't be destroyed trying for +6 or higher.
Lucky just increases the luck chance and it'll take away one lucky each time you fuse your item.
/Edit: To put astral on an item you will need the same amount, or more, of immortal on that item.
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:09 pm
by RedBlueGreen
XMoshe wrote:Dyegov wrote:So it doesn't do anything from +1 to +5?
I thought it was so your item didn't go back to +0 when failing. Isn't there any way to do that?
Only thing that can do such a thing is Astral. But it only works for +4 or higher (so if you fail +5/6/7/8 and so on it will go back to +4 (yes even if you try like +6->+7)
Immortal makes sure your item can't be destroyed trying for +6 or higher.
Lucky just increases the luck chance and it'll take away one lucky each time you fuse your item.
and you must have immortal on your item to add astral
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:13 pm
by Dyegov
Mmm, that's clear enough. Thanks
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:31 pm
by xKingpinx
its very rare i believe but your gear has a possibilty of getting red dura reduce going from +4-+5 and so on... I had a chest +4 and i went +5 and it failed and got dura reduce on it. Sorry if this was posted before just clearing that up
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:34 pm
by VanTokkern
xKingpinx wrote:its very rare i believe but your gear has a possibilty of getting red dura reduce going from +4-+5 and so on... I had a chest +4 and i went +5 and it failed and got dura reduce on it. Sorry if this was posted before just clearing that up
Wrong.
There are a thousand topics on this subject, and in every topic there's someone that claims that you can get dura reduce from +4 to +5, you're simply wrong. It does not happen. What
could have happened is that you miscounted and you were actually going for +6, that mistake is easily made.
If you would do a forum search on it and read all the topics, you'd find that all the people that claim to have had dura reduce from +4 to +5 "thought" it had happened, not a single person has posted a screenshot of it. And with all the alchemying going on someone must have been able to capture it by now
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:38 pm
by xKingpinx
hmm my eyesight is fine...and im 100% positive it was +4... trust me if it was +5 i would have left it..no they chest wasnt +5 because i started from +0 and was constantly looking at it.. my goal was to +5 it ..not to +6 it and yes it is very rare but it can happen
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:43 pm
by RedBlueGreen
xKingpinx wrote:hmm my eyesight is fine...and im 100% positive it was +4... trust me if it was +5 i would have left it..no they chest wasnt +5 because i started from +0 and was constantly looking at it.. my goal was to +5 it ..not to +6 it and yes it is very rare but it can happen
thats why 1000's of people do not use steady when trying +5, when it fails no red dura.
ur wrong im right and so is VanTokkern.
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:19 pm
by xKingpinx
i really could care less what you or van tokkern said...it happened to me. Im done argueing with you guys.
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:31 pm
by XMoshe
I failed +1 with lucky powder, I didn't believe it either but now it happened to me it's possible. So yeah I think it's possible but just a really really really really small chance.
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:14 pm
by xKingpinx
XMoshe wrote:I failed +1 with lucky powder, I didn't believe it either but now it happened to me it's possible. So yeah I think it's possible but just a really really really really small chance.
exactly...but they seemed to know everything about alchemy so... dont bother
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:39 pm
by RedBlueGreen
xKingpinx wrote:XMoshe wrote:I failed +1 with lucky powder, I didn't believe it either but now it happened to me it's possible. So yeah I think it's possible but just a really really really really small chance.
exactly...but they seemed to
know everything about alchemy so... dont bother
i do
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:47 pm
by Achilles990
Dyegov wrote:Well, I know what most blues do, but I don't know what steady does. What is it for?
Try read wot it says when u put ur lil mouse on top of the Stone!
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:11 pm
by I_R_Powerpuff
You have to add it to your gear that you are supposed to pimp.
It will make your hand steady so you can press the Fuse button.

Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:55 pm
by EvGa
+4 to 5 won't give you a red stat. +1 won't fail with lucky powder.
You are mistaken, it was +5, you tried +6. You forgot to put lucky powder and thought you did.
Steady, +6 and beyond, prevents red stat.
Immortal, +6 and beyond, prevents weapon from being destroyed.
Astral, +5 and beyond, keeps weapon from falling below +4.
Astral requires immortal.
/End
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:28 pm
by XMoshe
EvGa wrote:+4 to 5 won't give you a red stat. +1 won't fail with lucky powder.
You are mistaken, it was +5, you tried +6. You forgot to put lucky powder and thought you did.
Yeah that's why I failed before making it +0 and that's why I failed going for +1 and ending up with the same amount of elixers and powders

I didn't forget the powder.
RedBlueGreen wrote:xKingpinx wrote:XMoshe wrote:I failed +1 with lucky powder, I didn't believe it either but now it happened to me it's possible. So yeah I think it's possible but just a really really really really small chance.
exactly...but they seemed to
know everything about alchemy so... dont bother
i do
Apparently you don't

Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:08 am
by RedBlueGreen
Apparently you don't

ever thought of.. maybe, just maybe.. like just a little bit like like like like u know how small, so small that you did not even notice it... that you did not use lucky powder on the item? like my friend over here, "xKingpinx" went for +6 without knowing his item was already +5. Dont you just think that could of happened?

Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:24 am
by Grounded
lol so many arrogants inside this topic lol
RedBlueGreen wrote:Apparently you don't

ever thought of.. maybe, just maybe.. like just a little bit like like like like u know how small, so small that you did not even notice it... that you
do NOT KNOW all about it? ¬¬
fixed ^^... i believe ppl is not that blind/stupid to dont realize if they put a lucky powder or to not realize the item was +5 WHEN HE WAS AIMING TO MAKE IT +5 only...
just think about it... you CANT know everything about everything in life...
[ Edited some grammar issues ]
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:27 am
by EvGa
I know of a few people who have made +6 by accident, and someone who has destroyed a weapon by accident. I've even failed +1, and asked myself "wth?", only to realize I didn't put the lucky powder like I thought. (Done that twice actually.)
It's not arrogance, it's experience.

Guildy made a +8 pro foot on accident also, don't ask me how he managed that..I think his brain told him it went poof when it was actually 5, so he kept going to what he thought was 3..was actually 8.
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:29 am
by RedBlueGreen
GaRiTaX wrote:lol so many arrogants inside this topic lol
RedBlueGreen wrote:Apparently you don't

ever thought of.. maybe, just maybe.. like just a little bit like like like like u know how small, so small that you did not even notice it... that you
do NOT KNOW all about it? ¬¬
fixed ^^... i believe ppl is not that blind/stupid to dont realize if they put a lucky powder or to not realize the item was +5 WHEN HE WAS AIMING TO MAKE IT +5 only...
just think about it... you CANT know everything about everything in life...
[ Edited some grammar issues ]
i know lots of ppl that mistake thier item being at +4 while its really +5.
e.g at the start of 90cap my guildie got sun prot boots and he wanted to get them +5.. with out knowing it was already +5 and went for 6.. poof, gone. about 5hours after he got it he lost it.
i know i dont know every thing about the game. BUT its just simple SRO knowledge.
like omgad nowai how can you not know.. u need a SRO book for dummbies?
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:38 am
by Grounded
EvGa wrote:Guildy made a +8 pro foot on accident also, don't ask me how he managed that..I think his brain told him it went poof when it was actually 5, so he kept going to what he thought was 3..was actually 8.
mmm... i guess ppl pimp their items and they dont ever look at them when they fail or success, c'mon i dont buy it =P when u see the shining or the cloud u ever, EVER, EVEEEER, look at it to see if it changed somethg , or assimilation or w/e... that guy went to +8 and didnt even look 3 times? not even the right box on the screen that says it has succeded and it is[+6],[+7],[+8]?...
lol w/e... the topic was about steady and what it does... lets keep OT...
[ Edit: stupid gramma issues T_T]
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:42 am
by RedBlueGreen
the topic should of ended 17 posts ago..now 18.

Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:45 am
by Grounded
RedBlueGreen wrote:the topic should of ended 17 posts ago..now 18.

now 19... zuahaha
no heart feelings guys

Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:06 am
by EvGa
Like I said, I don't know how he managed it, but he did. And if he, for whatever reason, thought he was going for +3 I can understand. When doing stuff that low I don't generally look at the item. If I know its 0 then I go 1,2,3 real quick. I just watch the flash. He probably did the same, who knows.
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:17 am
by Dyegov
Eh yeah whatever.. can a mod lock this please? I have been helped like 20 posts ago XD
Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:18 am
by xKingpinx
21 now... yayayaya

Re: Steady, what does it do?
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:15 am
by vineman
EvGa wrote: +1 won't fail with lucky powder
/End
This is incorrect, sir, +1 has failed for me several times w/ lucky powdar