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Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:11 am
by penfold1992
lots of botters skip the cave as they get stuck on the walls and fixtures a lot and cant be asked to grind there.
at 100 cap, bots will be forced to grind in this new cave...getting stuck.
do u think that bots will be discouraged by this and a few will quit as it takes "too long to get to lvl 100" when there not really doing anything...
i wanna join bk to sro but i cant get it, loads of bots, and its not worth the hassle!
oh ps. im 16 and i got a AS level grade A in maths today, just had to tell you all!
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:20 am
by sting13
The cave is fking huge man, i very much doubt they would get stuck in anything. On the other hand, the new pk system will be implemented, might want to look that one up
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:22 am
by _MvP_
penfold1992 wrote:lots of botters skip the cave as they get stuck on the walls and fixtures a lot and cant be asked to grind there.
at 100 cap, bots will be forced to grind in this new cave...getting stuck.
do u think that bots will be discouraged by this and a few will quit as it takes "too long to get to lvl 100" when there not really doing anything...
i wanna join bk to sro but i cant get it, loads of bots, and its not worth the hassle!
oh ps. im 16 and i got a AS level grade A in maths today, just had to tell you all!
No it wont.lol gratzEDIT: Didnt want to double post. What new pk system you talking aabout sting?
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:26 am
by Ragnorak
sting13 wrote:The cave is fking huge man, i very much doubt they would get stuck in anything. On the other hand, the new pk system will be implemented, might want to look that one up
really not sure how the new pk system in ksro or csro works, but from my understanding is that when someone atks a player, they both go pink if the player you atk....attacks you back then is a free 1/1 however if the player does not atk you back (like player bots) and you kill him anyways u still get murder stats...if that's how it works, i don't C how it would make a diff
.....if that is how the system works..it can easily be exploited by just going pink and get in the range of an atk by a bot..like AOE atks
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:00 am
by foudre
bots still find their ways around the caves, how ever you're right there is alot less, but its probally easier to them cause they go to ht pot and have a short ride to takla/roc, the caves would take even longer to get there, of course pots in dw change that, but old habits die hard.
I never really thought about the bots getting stuck in caves, but that explains why seceret rooms are almsot always open, still bots make their way just fine down to nachos/ yachas
I don't think tomb will be an issue, it just means they'll have to take better care in setting their waypoints. Would be nice though if they all got stuck.
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:43 am
by Toshiharu
Sorry to burst your bubble, but its mainly open area. Unlike dw's cave where there was something in the middle of the room typically.
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:46 am
by lopasas
new pk system, well goldbots, looks like theres going to be alot of 1 on 1
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Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:33 pm
by HBblade
how would a cave discourage botters?
100cap cave from all the nice pics & w/e seems to be even roomier & less obstacle then 70cap cave lol
good thing that u mite wanan note though is...there's a lot of teleporting involve in 100cap cave...so hope ppl get dc/crash during tele, lol
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:51 pm
by sheeplol6
lopasas wrote:new pk system, well goldbots, looks like theres going to be alot of 1 on 1
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time to get naked (ooo er) and get goldbots PK
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:37 pm
by Nixie
1. The will find a way around that, if not they're fcked up.
2. You'll have to grind in a party, else you'll die anyway (as people are talking about it...).
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:41 pm
by William-CL
Toshiharu wrote:Sorry to burst your bubble, but its mainly open area. Unlike dw's cave where there was something in the middle of the room typically.
Crap.. So massive bots groups like in Takla's open spaces?
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:45 pm
by foudre
sheeplol6 wrote:lopasas wrote:new pk system, well goldbots, looks like theres going to be alot of 1 on 1
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time to get naked (ooo er) and get goldbots PK
i think the new pk system works like if you kill some one in pink or red you dont' get a murder penalty, but if you attack some one even if they are pink or red you turn pink yourself.
So a murderer can defend himself, and such.
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:15 pm
by nohunta
LOL i say itll discourage more legits.
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:41 pm
by LaloHao
nohunta wrote:LOL i say itll discourage more legits.
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:15 am
by foudre
LaloHao wrote:nohunta wrote:LOL i say itll discourage more legits.
the 100 cap has me motivated now, i mean i'm not even ready for the 80 cap i'm that far behind, i'm determined i'm going with Foudre till he's 100
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:46 am
by I_R_Powerpuff
I think because of the size of the cave (It'll prolly take ~20-30 min to get to your grinding space) many legits will be discouraged unless they use Reverse Return Scrolls.
Bots just leave their PC on 24/7 so the time it takes to get to their grinding space shouldn't be much of a problem for them.
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:41 am
by .curve
I_R_Powerpuff wrote:I think because of the size of the cave (It'll prolly take ~20-30 min to get to your grinding space) many legits will be discouraged unless they use Reverse Return Scrolls.
Bots just leave their PC on 24/7 so the time it takes to get to their grinding space shouldn't be much of a problem for them.
That's what most people do for the caves. Especially the Yacha and Nachal rooms.
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:59 am
by Mephala
well now in each town u can buy xl pots and all u need .so boters can go from Jg to cave.but i think will be smarter for them to bot on Rok mt because there will be empty.who knows .we will live to see
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:32 am
by _MvP_
Mephala wrote:well now in each town u can buy xl pots and all u need .so boters can go from Jg to cave.but i think will be smarter for them to bot on Rok mt because there will be empty.who knows .we will live to see
You cant bot to 100lvl on 88 mobs lol
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 1:39 pm
by EngravedDemon
Ragnorak wrote:sting13 wrote:The cave is fking huge man, i very much doubt they would get stuck in anything. On the other hand, the new pk system will be implemented, might want to look that one up
really not sure how the new pk system in ksro or csro works, but from my understanding is that when someone atks a player, they both go pink if the player you atk....attacks you back then is a free 1/1 however if the player does not atk you back (like player bots) and you kill him anyways u still get murder stats...if that's how it works, i don't C how it would make a diff
.....if that is how the system works..it can easily be exploited by just going pink and get in the range of an atk by a bot..like AOE atks
It's different 'coz now you get to have open PvP, not just the usual no penalty cape pvp. This way, you don't even have to be in job suits or in an actual guild war to start some action. You go purple and whoever attacks you becomes purple too, free PvP and everyone can just gang up on each other. No more GLOBALING NEED MORE THIEVES OR HUNTERS in DW EAST! LoL!
Seems like Lineage 2 all over again. Would be nice to see random parties going at each other. Only downside to this is... People are gonna exploit it and everyone's gonna be whining about lots of Red Bugs and also, if you die purple you risk dropping gears too. Plus the bots would have a hard time if we can exploit purple with AoE skills. Hah, I got a feeling it's not gonna last all that long. Joymax to the Bot Rescue! Patchhhh!
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:47 pm
by VforVendetta
I am hoping for the new PK system more than anything else in this update, because everything about it is very anti-bot, there are so many ways to kill a bot with this new oppertunity, however it being anti-bot is the same as it being anti-money for Joymax, they may not implement it for the sole reason that it annoys their botting customers.
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:59 pm
by XMoshe
VforVendetta wrote:I am hoping for the new PK system more than anything else in this update, because everything about it is very anti-bot, there are so many ways to kill a bot with this new oppertunity, however it being anti-bot is the same as it being anti-money for Joymax, they may not implement it for the sole reason that it annoys their botting customers.
Wouldn't be surprised if the bot programmers found a way around that within a few days
AFAIK the bots we got now already have those options.
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:02 pm
by VforVendetta
XMoshe wrote:VforVendetta wrote:I am hoping for the new PK system more than anything else in this update, because everything about it is very anti-bot, there are so many ways to kill a bot with this new oppertunity, however it being anti-bot is the same as it being anti-money for Joymax, they may not implement it for the sole reason that it annoys their botting customers.
Wouldn't be surprised if the bot programmers found a way around that within a few days
AFAIK the bots we got now already have those options.
Dont worry I have many ways, its the gift of a Warrior Warlock to be annoying, oh yes, there will be blood...
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:04 pm
by XMoshe
VforVendetta wrote:XMoshe wrote:VforVendetta wrote:I am hoping for the new PK system more than anything else in this update, because everything about it is very anti-bot, there are so many ways to kill a bot with this new oppertunity, however it being anti-bot is the same as it being anti-money for Joymax, they may not implement it for the sole reason that it annoys their botting customers.
Wouldn't be surprised if the bot programmers found a way around that within a few days
AFAIK the bots we got now already have those options.
Dont worry I have many ways, its the gift of a Warrior Warlock to be annoying, oh yes, there will be blood...
Hehe : ) I was just talking about the new pk system, I know there are more ways
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:58 pm
by Glavie's Girl
I hear alot that the cave will discourage bots. though its not in the way that the area is set up, its more in the fact of the skills the mobs will be using, ie, only clerics can remove petrifaction, and stuff like that. Makes me wonder when does warlock get petrification! lol
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:09 pm
by Amalie
Sorry I might just be dumb but...
What new pk system lol?
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:17 pm
by XMoshe
Amalie wrote:Sorry I might just be dumb but...
What new pk system lol?
In kSRO (maybe others too, not sure about that) you got a new PK system. When you go pink on someone and that person attacks you back he goes pink too. That way you get a cape like fight without capes. And I think you have to respawn in town. Also there are no penalties than.
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:43 pm
by penfold1992
XMoshe wrote:Amalie wrote:Sorry I might just be dumb but...
What new pk system lol?
In kSRO (maybe others too, not sure about that) you got a new PK system. When you go pink on someone and that person attacks you back he goes pink too. That way you get a cape like fight without capes. And I think you have to respawn in town. Also there are no penalties than.
bots will auto ignore..... or because lvl 85 bots grind in areas that a lvl 75 should be in.... ull get raped
Re: Cave discourage bots?
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:36 pm
by Kryptonite
XMoshe wrote:Dont worry I have many ways, its the gift of a Warrior Warlock to be annoying, oh yes, there will be blood...
Hehe : ) I was just talking about the new pk system, I know there are more ways
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