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What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:51 am
by asusi
What is about this server? and this unbeaten Avalon guild. :)

I think it's just there is not good players or with good team work that's the reason why is Avalon unbeaten, and i think if Avalon guild were in Xian or Babel they were already raped couple times.

I'm curious of your Opinion.
sorry if there is already same topic.

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:54 am
by Swindler
Maybe cuz they are one of the strongest guilds on Venus? Dunno, I dont play there :>


and btw, this topic gonna be full of flaming..

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:55 am
by asusi
HejsaN wrote:Maybe cuz they are one of the strongest guilds on Venus? Dunno, I dont play there :>

hmm yeah, but i wonder why other guilds fail to take over the Fortress ? :P

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:00 am
by Swindler
asusi wrote:
HejsaN wrote:Maybe cuz they are one of the strongest guilds on Venus? Dunno, I dont play there :>

hmm yeah, but i wonder why other guilds fail to take over the Fortress ? :P

Maybe cuz they dont stand a chance? :>

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:02 am
by magisuns
lmao any1 can take over xian's fort, there are about, what, 15 people that owned the fortress that come? and about the same number opposing. if bh's union got a bit more into it again, that would be an easy takeover.

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:03 am
by Kryptonite
probably cuz most of their union comes to defend

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:03 am
by /Pi
Oh shit. This must be the weekly Venus thread.

Dance away on a broken record. Repeat the same routines. We know how much you all love us.

:love:

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:09 am
by magisuns
Prophet Izaach wrote:Oh shit. This must be the nearly daily Venus thread.

Dance away on a broken record. Repeat the same routines. We know how much you all love us.

:love:

fixed

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:24 am
by asusi
@ above ^

i don't play on Venus :roll: what ever...

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:55 am
by XMoshe
Sure they can be beaten, but since there are only idiots on that server (aside from those unions ofc) which know nothing about teamplay it's a walk in the park for them.

/Thread

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:06 am
by PureStr
Well, Avalon is the only guild in iSRO to own a fortress since day 1 :)
So there must be something special about it :P

And bots dont even bother going to FW anymore because we completely raped them over and over before.
They have semi-given up.

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:11 am
by XMoshe
PureStr wrote:Well, Avalon is the only guild in iSRO to own a fortress since day 1 :)
So there must be something special about it :P

And bots dont even bother going to FW anymore because we completely raped them over and over before.
They have semi-given up.


/care

:roll:

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:23 am
by NuclearSilo
there is no full sun bot in Venus i believe

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:55 am
by borat2
PureStr wrote:Well, Avalon is the only guild in iSRO to own a fortress since day 1 :)
So there must be something special about it :P

And bots dont even bother going to FW anymore because we completely raped them over and over before.
They have semi-given up.

The only thing that is needed to win the fortress are a bunch of active people that know to play their chars in a team based pvp.

Full sun or not no one can beat a team that has their party set up how they should be set up and good communication, what i have noticed on babel is that most players don`t even use voice communication.

you can have 200 people fighting 16 if those 16 are well prepared and have good communication and those 200 are mixed up and only 16of them have communication then they gonna lose anyway.

This is why Avalon lost against Epic, Epic actually gathered people for the war, they prepared got even people from other servers to play some people second chars and most of them were on voice communication not to forget they knew losing few levels to get more points in this war is no problem for them anyway since well all they have to do to get those levels is login their bot.

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:57 am
by asusi
PureStr wrote:Well, Avalon is the only guild in iSRO to own a fortress since day 1 :)
So there must be something special about it :P

And bots dont even bother going to FW anymore because we completely raped them over and over before.
They have semi-given up.

sure....

XMoshe wrote:Sure they can be beaten, but since there are only idiots on that server (aside from those unions ofc) which know nothing about teamplay it's a walk in the park for them.

/Thread

true thanks
exactly what i was thinking.

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:28 pm
by chickenfeather
magisuns wrote:lmao any1 can take over xian's fort, there are about, what, 15 people that owned the fortress that come? and about the same number opposing. if bh's union got a bit more into it again, that would be an easy takeover.


Mmm more than 15 people, but I agree with you that if all the BH unions decided to come back from other servers it would be an easy takeover.
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Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:35 pm
by Zero_Doom
Bots don't party, simple enough. They are pfarmed/lvled by other bots, so when they reach the end game, they have no idea what they are doing. Avalon, and the rest of the confederation, has all partied since day one on Venus. When we pvp, we use the same methods we do in a pve party, and are always the victor.

It ultimately comes down to this... bots don't know how to play their characters.

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:37 pm
by Krevidy
Just for the record, SuddenDeath on Venus has owned MasterMinds with 15k to 4k just 2 days ago.
MasterMinds is the strongest bot guild left on Venus.
And well yea, when we (SuddenDeath) warred Avalon, we litteraly got our asses raped.
We lost with, 3k to 35k for Avalon. T_T
Luckily SuddenDeath is now unioned with Avalon. Together no union is stronger in iSro.
Dont underestimate european 8/8 pt's. Chinese are useless against 8/8 pt's.

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:05 pm
by PureStr
NuclearSilo wrote:there is no full sun bot in Venus i believe


He was at sam south yesterday, weakest full sun nuker i've ever seen.
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=1097535
Okay,okay one som.
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=2231871
Total waste of a sun glaive.
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=208863
Never actually saw him.
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=1778428
+9 staff wiz and all he does is plvl lol.
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=1907803
Was full sun, quit and sold his char, pwnt
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=1218209
Best Warrior :)
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=65284

XMoshe wrote:/care

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And for those of you that think bots never showed up to reclaim the FW, we reached maximum capacity of the FW map more than once...

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:13 pm
by Krevidy
AlbelNox is teh best warrior on Venus you noop.

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:14 pm
by hapnz
Definitely a stong guild, no doubt about that. They'd be one of the strongest in any server.

Why their union has both fortresses since the beginning? Obviously because the competition sucks.

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:18 pm
by thm_klose11
The problem is the time of the fw! If joymax would change the time to weekand, more ppl would be able to participate.

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:21 pm
by XMoshe
PureStr wrote:
XMoshe wrote:/care

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Why would that be trolling? Everyone know that Venus is owned by Avalon and alliance so why boast more about it..seriously >.>

Oh and I don't want to have that purple-ish hair =[

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:24 pm
by PureStr
XMoshe wrote:Everyone know that Venus is owned by Avalon


kthx.

thm_klose11 wrote:The problem is the time of the fw! If joymax would change the time to weekand, more ppl would be able to participate.


Thats a problem on all servers...

GlennNL22 wrote:AlbelNox is teh best warrior on Venus you noop.


Meh, Offline warriors FTW i guess.

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:26 pm
by Ragnorak
There is no secret to holding the fortress, from my understanding Avalon union are mostly European characters. its simple Euro>Chinese in fortress.
I would like someon1 from venus to tell me the distribution of Europeans from Avalon Union to those that are not part of their union...probably for every Chinese there are 3 euros lol.

Lets just say the "legits" outnumber the "botters" 5 to 1 BUT the legits were all chinese and the botters were all europeans, do you they they would win? NO.

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:28 pm
by PureStr
Ragnorak wrote:There is no secret to holding the fortress, from my understanding Avalon union are mostly European characters. its simple Euro>Chinese in fortress.
I would like someon1 from venus to tell me the distribution of Europeans from Avalon Union to those that are not part of their union...probably for every Chinese there are 3 euros lol.


Avalon union is about 95% euros :)
There are a few chinese like Mai, Cait (who got commander last FW) and Z3rg. But they are no where
near being the majority

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:33 pm
by Ragnorak
PureStr wrote:
Ragnorak wrote:There is no secret to holding the fortress, from my understanding Avalon union are mostly European characters. its simple Euro>Chinese in fortress.
I would like someon1 from venus to tell me the distribution of Europeans from Avalon Union to those that are not part of their union...probably for every Chinese there are 3 euros lol.


Avalon union is about 95% euros :)
There are a few chinese like Mai, Cait (who got commander last FW) and Z3rg. But they are no where
near being the majority


Problem solved! they hold the fortress not because they are better but because they hold the majority (euros)

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:42 pm
by XMoshe
PureStr wrote:
XMoshe wrote:Everyone know that Venus is owned by Avalon


kthx.


Failed to see my point..Sigh

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:51 pm
by _Scarlett_
Ragnorak wrote:
PureStr wrote:
Ragnorak wrote:There is no secret to holding the fortress, from my understanding Avalon union are mostly European characters. its simple Euro>Chinese in fortress.
I would like someon1 from venus to tell me the distribution of Europeans from Avalon Union to those that are not part of their union...probably for every Chinese there are 3 euros lol.


Avalon union is about 95% euros :)
There are a few chinese like Mai, Cait (who got commander last FW) and Z3rg. But they are no where
near being the majority


Problem solved! they hold the fortress not because they are better but because they hold the majority (euros)



Actually, you got it wrong. Most of the competition has transitioned over to using euros. Plus, the competition outnumbers the legits on the server badly, more so along the lines of 5+ to 1. When just one 8/8 pt of euros can defend just one gate against 50+ people, the majority euro and a few chi, something's wrong.

Re: What is about Fortwar on Venus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:14 pm
by thm_klose11
Ragnorak wrote:
PureStr wrote:
Ragnorak wrote:There is no secret to holding the fortress, from my understanding Avalon union are mostly European characters. its simple Euro>Chinese in fortress.
I would like someon1 from venus to tell me the distribution of Europeans from Avalon Union to those that are not part of their union...probably for every Chinese there are 3 euros lol.


Avalon union is about 95% euros :)
There are a few chinese like Mai, Cait (who got commander last FW) and Z3rg. But they are no where
near being the majority


Problem solved! they hold the fortress not because they are better but because they hold the majority (euros)


They hold the fw because NOONE CAN PARTICIPATE BECAUSE OF THE FU*** TIME !!! an union cant hold a fw if all strong guilds paricipate!!!!