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how hybrid is too hybrid for spear?

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:20 pm
by iSkate
im making this hybrid spear nuker : 90 heuksal/light/cold and was wondering how hybrid to go.

i was thinking 8:1 in protector.

but some kid said 5:1 hybrid is best for spear.

also i saw this vid that shows a 7:2 hybrid spear nuker that pwns so i need suggestions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U2J_4pq5OI

also: how many points str points is 5:1

oh and i dont know hoy many str points i added to my nuker can someone help me?
stats so far: LVL: 47 ----- STR: 93 ---- INT: 177 i think i added 27 str points but i need to be confirmed.

Re: how hybrid is too hybrid for spear?

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:09 am
by _IceCold_
I think u added 23 str cuz u start with 24 ... ,in my opinion I feel fine with 1:9 what u can call "hybrid". I think u should add ur stat points by ur play style : I almost dont get hit in PvE (nukes and fast spear moves). If u want to be a more ""tanking"" char then add a little more str. Just find ur weakness and strongness.

Hope i helped,

Re: how hybrid is too hybrid for spear?

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:12 am
by BaronSengir
you call that pwning? look carefully hes damn euro buffed i just closed that shitty video after i saw that

Re: how hybrid is too hybrid for spear?

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:52 am
by MissLe2
5:1 would be putting 5 of your next str or int points on one (str or int)
and only one point on the other (str or int)
8) 8)

Re: how hybrid is too hybrid for spear?

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:31 am
by Bobby
MissLe2 wrote:5:1 would be putting 5 of your next str or int points on one (str or int)
and only one point on the other (str or int)
8) 8)


I think tht's 85% magical balance. It's sort of easier to compare hybrid builds in percentages instead.

Going back to ratios lol, 1:8 is something like 8k hp naked. If thts enuf for u, go 1:8, faster grinding. 1:5 is usually better at pvp tho in exchange for damamge. Both are pretty good.

Re: how hybrid is too hybrid for spear?

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:38 am
by Insanity
shoot for 70% phy balance. so keep putting into int, and when phy. drops below 70 to like 69, u add 1 point to str to get it back up to 70, and keep lvling int.

i think this leaves u at like 7:1 int hybrid? can anyone correct me on this please if im wrong?

Re: how hybrid is too hybrid for spear?

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:09 pm
by Disconn3cted
Insanity wrote:shoot for 70% phy balance. so keep putting into int, and when phy. drops below 70 to like 69, u add 1 point to str to get it back up to 70, and keep lvling int.

i think this leaves u at like 7:1 int hybrid? can anyone correct me on this please if im wrong?


I don't think thats a 7:1 hybrid but the build you said will work fine

@topic starter. In your video that noob is being euro buffed :banghead:

Re: how hybrid is too hybrid for spear?

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:36 pm
by sheeplol6
with gear my char has 2.3 INT to every str point, and every point from levelling i gained is on int :P 31 STR on 6D gear lulz

Re: how hybrid is too hybrid for spear?

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:14 pm
by theCoder
Insanity wrote:shoot for 70% phy balance. so keep putting into int, and when phy. drops below 70 to like 69, u add 1 point to str to get it back up to 70, and keep lvling int.

i think this leaves u at like 7:1 int hybrid? can anyone correct me on this please if im wrong?


I recommend this build, but it's close to 2:1 int hybrid, w/more str. The naked balances is what you want to pay attention too, not the number of points in str and int. Damage and protection are both figured from the balances.

That being said, many folks are happy with 9:1, 8:1, 7:1, and 5:1 int hybrid spear. IMO, spear/heuksal as well as pacheon is very fragile, as you have to depend on your resistances, your balances, than other builds. Even pure str glaives and pure str bows, realize an intrinsic weakness to magical damage. That being said, I really do not think you can over-hybridize the heuksal nor pacheon builds.

Re: how hybrid is too hybrid for spear?

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:08 am
by eaglehawk
i agree.. its all based on your playing style with ur spear hybrid as i have seen strong 9:1, 2:1 and 80:80 hybrids in babel at this cap, if you like to nuke and you choose a 90 light/cold/heuk do not go under 5:1 ratio (15 lvls of str) because you will have trouble one hitting 87 attackers or rockys with an 85+7 spear and unless you have a som or sun spear your nukes will be useless in pvp(and a waste of sp), if you want to add more str (15-30lvls) i suggest you choose fire as your imbue to do higher damage and just use heuksal skills in pvp (i have 10 lvls of str and i try not to rely on nukes unless i have range), with that being said i dont think there is such thing as being "too hybrid" unless your talking about str hybrids :D