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Dagger Desperate and Crossbow Extreme....Idea?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:27 pm
by majincooler
Hello SRF Members.

I just wanted to ask a question, that is when applied, may be better for Rouges to handle monsters while grinding.

Since Dagger Desperate offers 75% Reduction in Physical and Magical defense when used, also for Crossbow Extreme which offers 40% Reduction when used, the question is:

Would it be better if you take off ALL your gear, then switch on DD or CE, so that the 75% or 40% Reduction would be from your basic Phyiscal/Magical Defense, then when adding up your gear, their defense wont be reduced?

or does DD / CE only affect / reduce your defense only when you get hit by a monster / during combat ?

Please discuss, and inform. Thank you.

Re: Dagger Desperate and Crossbow Extreme....Idea?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:34 pm
by Nitro
No matter what you have equipped, the DD/XE will reduce your stats of your maximum value.
Meaning, if I have 100 phy & 100 mag defense, then I use DD, I'll have 30 phy & 30 mag defense.

If I bless myself with 100 phy & 100 mag defense (meaning originally I'd have 200phy & 200mag) after DD I'd have 60 phy & 60 mag defense.

No matter what order you make (first DD then bless, or first bless then DD) it will always be the same.

Re: Dagger Desperate and Crossbow Extreme....Idea?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:35 pm
by Dante
dont work , just tested it

Re: Dagger Desperate and Crossbow Extreme....Idea?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:36 pm
by majincooler
Damn....JM is smart :wink: :D

Re: Dagger Desperate and Crossbow Extreme....Idea?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:30 pm
by Shadowfox542
Anyone know if you have all your gear and DD on, and SOMEONE ELSE blesses, does that bless get reduced?

Re: Dagger Desperate and Crossbow Extreme....Idea?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:57 pm
by -.-
yep nothing works with rogue buffs if you plan on keeping def :D

Re: Dagger Desperate and Crossbow Extreme....Idea?

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:01 am
by the_wicked
the 75% reduce affects screens too....i think.


someone should try it out, get screens without DD and with it.

or screen in DD w/o screen then one with.

Re: Dagger Desperate and Crossbow Extreme....Idea?

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:37 pm
by ziuf
Yes screens are affected too.
The only way is to get pain or fence :)