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So I see a lot of euro players in DW last night and one build that seem to stick out and do pretty good is a 2 handed euro with either cleric or warlock as subclass.

Now I'm a chinese blader/glavie, of course sun glavie.

pvping against a 2handed/cleric is take a little time to kill but I got the job done. Finally kill that foo. Now pvping against a 2handed euro/warlock is a b11ch. When they about to die, they switch to shield, then do the stupid warlock debuffs and add all those stats, stun, sleep, blind. The only time I got killed was I run out of pills. I hate this build, but I will make one. hehe

ya ultimate vs chinesee but when warlocks pvp any euro with cleric subclass they cant kill

DrWicked wrote:ya ultimate vs chinesee but when warlocks pvp any euro with cleric subclass they cant kill

They can kill european chars with Holy Spell, but it will be ..... hard to kill them.

IMO, 2h/cleric is the cookie-cutter build for Euros. Same as the glavier is the cookie-cutter build for Chinese.

.curve wrote:IMO, 2h/cleric is the cookie-cutter build for Euros. Same as the glavier is the cookie-cutter build for Chinese.

is "cookie-cutter" a bad thing

I heard warrior/cleric or warrior/warlock is a good build and oh yea when you ever start telling people that you used other people's sun weapon from that guild or union???..... So give whoever's sun weapon that belong to more credit than your lowly self-conceited life.... you piece of good for nothing piece of donkey's manure smells.

Ragnorak wrote:

.curve wrote:IMO, 2h/cleric is the cookie-cutter build for Euros. Same as the glavier is the cookie-cutter build for Chinese.

is "cookie-cutter" a bad thing

Spoiler!

lol

No no, cookie-cutter means it's hard to mess up and it's easy to make.

Wassup ****** Andy aka ah neout, you still bittered I kick your ass. lol
I never said the glavie is mine you loser reject, get over it. You'll never be as cool as me and TK. Even your brother Johnny is way off better than you. Why dont you get a real job with your life like go back to school, be a teacher, teaching people how to fail in life. lmao

gouenji wrote:I heard warrior/cleric or warrior/warlock is a good build and oh yea when you ever start telling people that you used other people's sun weapon from that guild or union???..... So give whoever's sun weapon that belong to more credit than your lowly self-conceited life.... you piece of good for nothing piece of donkey's manure smells.

Why dont you stay on topic and take your shit spam posts to pm?

Ultimate Euro Build? Cant tell you, cause then I'd have to kill you.

It's not my glavie, it's a good child hood friend of mine, known him since living the Phillipines. He got it as a dropped but cant use it because he's a bower. I did some pimping on it for him and I dont know who added all those blues. So basically it's shared among our guild members. Just one guild member who's jealous of everything I do, so as a hater he is, he is my number one fan. lol

Ok..... that suck to hear about a guild or union...... One is hating and another who loves to take credit off someone else's stuff.. If im not wrong I played in babel for 3 years until moving to Venice now. But I think I seen someone with a glavie/blade build like 2 1/2 years ago. Forgot his char name but I PVP him on his old char in some guild. Well anyway gratz on ur build even though I knew I saw someone with that build way beforehand you even have it. Oh well guess gratz goes to the current holder of the build for now. Until I refresh my memory on who has it earlier before the new skills for 8 cap and 9 cap comes out. I'll get back on this after I refresh my memory about the past server I used to play.

well if I ever drop a sosun weapon of highest level I remake a character so that I'm able to use it.

.curve wrote:

Ragnorak wrote:

.curve wrote:IMO, 2h/cleric is the cookie-cutter build for Euros. Same as the glavier is the cookie-cutter build for Chinese.

is "cookie-cutter" a bad thing

Spoiler!

lol

No no, cookie-cutter means it's hard to mess up and it's easy to make.

its easy to suck too.
lots of stupid war/clerics out ther.

This is why the game is kinda balanced in a way, for every build there is a build that will totally destroy it.

Once you are done with your warlock/warrior you will face the danger of warrior/clerics and will want to make one and once you made a warrior/cleric you will get annoyed by warlock/rogues and the story continue.

Just learn to play your build as best as you can there is the special pills bug and you can always use walls so try change your playing style vs each build that also helps a lot.

But the ultimate build in my opinion still remains a warrior/cleric but as usual the build is nothing without a skilled player.

***** u can just read the last part***

Its really frustrating sometimes when U have a build and know how to use it well and virtually win the majority of ur pvp, then U see some one else with the same build, "same" set,+7 weapon putting the build to "shame",,,just embarrassing to watch.

some glaviers....Emperor>>ghost spear.>>>.Emperor>>>Ghost spear...get kd don't use a shield for chance to block,reduce dmg (some choose not, think is "unfair" lol..yeah they can use windless too..but don't use it when u see DD coming to ur face...cuz it won't stop the atk..ghost spear would be useful for chance to kb+switching to shield at the same time..just in case kb fail...DD dmg..would be drastically reduce/block..due to the fact DD is slow, its still possible to shield switch while stun before getting hit by 1st..but mainly the 2nd hit of DD.

Warriors: sprint>>DD>>Turn rising>>>bash/triple swing>>>repeat
Due to the fact that warriors have very high atk...that tends to work for those that "don't" know how to use good tactics/or time well some skills..since they have time in there hands with skins/bless......but personally vs me that kind of tactic of warriors is a complete failure...even a 2hand sun warrior will failed.

there is so much a warrior could do but I guess some just don't have the SP, to get skills other then 2hand....cuz imo...just 2hand skills for warriors= fail.....there are also those that have all warrior skills, but just don't use them at the "right" time...or are not quick enough to use a skill that could had been the diff..b/w dying or winning.

even if you don't win vs some builds u don't have to loose either..a pvp can drag for a long time till both call it quit.

There is no "Ultimate" build, u can probably say "your"...example warrior/cleric" own build is one of the best, there are probably a few player out there that have never lost 1/1 or only a very few times...
but u can't say warrior/cleric is the ultimate build cuz there will be plenty of warrior/clerics who get owned by all other builds everyday.

1st Post ^_^

Gotta say, warrior/cleric is pretty insane to pvp especially if you area a warrior/warlock, but there are ways around holy spell. sure none of the regular debuffs such as division and what not work, but there are some that still do, just have to figure it out. Stun still works, vampire touch still works and so does wheel bind. Wheel bind is a life saver if it works. As long as you have a decent weapon and a decent set you should be able to kill a warrior/cleric even if he has holy spell on, that is, as long as he doesnt have the stupid bard buffs that are from players out of suit *cough* kuwait union on Greece *cough* But yea, warrior/warlock owns as long as you know how to use it in various situations

For china is pretty hard if fair pvp vs euro, espically rogue/cleric or warlock and warrior cleric or warlock.
Im pretty much sure I would destroy you, only in full sun prot set would be hard. I My friend is full sun prot +6 sun glavie +7 and I manage to kill him few times altough he is far the strongest china on server and one of the few skilled players.

By saying destroy, you are saying I have no chance of beating you or have a hard time trying. You gotta come to Babel, I'm always there. I pvp many warrior/cleric. They are not that hard unless you use macro like Alyna dude. lol

_Creep_ wrote:For china is pretty hard if fair pvp vs euro, espically rogue/cleric or warlock and warrior cleric or warlock.
Im pretty much sure I would destroy you, only in full sun prot set would be hard. I My friend is full sun prot +6 sun glavie +7 and I manage to kill him few times altough he is far the strongest china on server and one of the few skilled players.

WTH is up with all these new accounts?!?

Tasdik wrote:WTH is up with all these new accounts?!?

WTH dont you post something that pertains to the topic?

On Topic: Chinese aren't hard to kill 1v1, toughest are bladers imo

akirahero wrote:

Tasdik wrote:WTH is up with all these new accounts?!?

WTH dont you post something that pertains to the topic?

On Topic: Chinese aren't hard to kill 1v1, toughest are bladers imo

Because I find it odd that all these new people all of a sudden decide to post in one topic. That never happens.

On topic: 2h warrior/cleric or lock seems to be the build that pwns the most out of all the other ones at this cap.

Warrior/cleric takes skill to play or any char because the same strategy doesnt work against every build. im a warrior/cleric and the key to winning a pvp is all in my switching. i use Axe and 2hand and dont usually stick to one strategy that ppl can catch on too. Basically what others said there is no ultimate build. Just play whats fun for you winning pvp doesnt mean anything. alot of people on xian dont like to pvp me cause im a euro but its kinda lame. Dont really think warrior cleric is a cookie cutter build just because it takes alot of sp to farm a euro. 2h +axe + cleric 850k + depending on what skills you want.

Woohoo wrote:By saying destroy, you are saying I have no chance of beating you or have a hard time trying. You gotta come to Babel, I'm always there. I pvp many warrior/cleric. They are not that hard unless you use macro like Alyna dude. lol

_Creep_ wrote:For china is pretty hard if fair pvp vs euro, espically rogue/cleric or warlock and warrior cleric or warlock.
Im pretty much sure I would destroy you, only in full sun prot set would be hard. I My friend is full sun prot +6 sun glavie +7 and I manage to kill him few times altough he is far the strongest china on server and one of the few skilled players.

Im just saying for rogue cleric pvp with glaviers is far the easyest than any other china build. And only full suin glavier is hard to kill others arent problem at all. You can come to mercury and pm me to see if yuo dont believe altough I failed daggers for +9 so give me some time to make it +7 again, and holidays are now, so no time for sro.

despite the fact this in the 'ultimate build' its basically the european version ofthe ice blader, who both take a year to kill eachother. normally they both run out of pots...

_Creep_ wrote:

Woohoo wrote:By saying destroy, you are saying I have no chance of beating you or have a hard time trying. You gotta come to Babel, I'm always there. I pvp many warrior/cleric. They are not that hard unless you use macro like Alyna dude. lol

_Creep_ wrote:For china is pretty hard if fair pvp vs euro, espically rogue/cleric or warlock and warrior cleric or warlock.
Im pretty much sure I would destroy you, only in full sun prot set would be hard. I My friend is full sun prot +6 sun glavie +7 and I manage to kill him few times altough he is far the strongest china on server and one of the few skilled players.

Im just saying for rogue cleric pvp with glaviers is far the easyest than any other china build. And only full suin glavier is hard to kill others arent problem at all. You can come to mercury and pm me to see if yuo dont believe altough I failed daggers for +9 so give me some time to make it +7 again, and holidays are now, so no time for sro.

I guess ur statement is the opposite to mine,,,rogues..non-warlock are the 2nd (wiz 1st)easiest build to kill (non sun) by glaviers....die over bless spell if using DD ect..prick crit.with DD would 1 hit but if fail to kill rogue will die few sec. later...some start with xbow for kd..mortal wound..prick..

so I guess who plays the rogue is the 1 that will make the diff...not the build itself.

imo without manaskin ironskin or bless, warriors arnt as great as you guys make them out to be. and if all you do is bless and skin up then damn u guys must be safezone hugging for the countdown