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Alchemy >.>

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:24 pm
by LillDev!l
Today, i was in an alchemizing mood.
Asked some guy i know how he always makes his +5's +7's and the +9 he just made.
basicly everyone tells me to Fail other gear in between.
So i decide to try +5 on both off my rings, i fail both ^^
90 elixers later, i never got them back to +4... (While failing other stuff in between when going from +3 to +4 >.<)

cant believe how unlucky these things are, when i pimped them first time they both went +4 in 1 try.
any suggestions xD?

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:32 pm
by slimshady
fail more times. how many times do you fail in a row before trying +5? i suggest at least 4-5.

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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:36 pm
by Disconn3cted
I can't get +4 without lucky stones so I don't think you are doing that bad

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:38 pm
by sheeplol6
alchemys a bitch, in short :P

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:41 pm
by Ragnorak
1st: when you are doing alchemy, set a standard in how many elixirs you are willing to use before calling it a day. (unless you have a lot of gold that spending ~20mil in a ring ect. is nothing)
I use 20-30 elixirs max in one thing,,if it fails try another day or in different town. if it continues to fail, find a blank one and try to + it.....I always + any item before adding blues,,,if it can't get to +5 I don't add blues.
I remember using 37 acc. elixirs trying to +5 a ring in dw..fail +3 most of the times and +4 like once...teleported to hotan to buy more lucky's, decided to try + it in hotan 2x...+4 in 1st try and +6 the 2nd try. (had 5immo).

My suggestion is ALWAYS try to + before adding blues, so if it doesn't + to ~+5 in several tries (~30)...just stall it, NPC it..and try different one.

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:53 pm
by LillDev!l
slimshady wrote:fail more times. how many times do you fail in a row before trying +5? i suggest at least 4-5.


failed 3 in a row :)

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:09 pm
by xKingpinx
idk i seriously think its all just luck...no fail this fail that....cause i couldnt even get my shield to +5 with prem and ...with out prem i have made...in the last 4 months.... 2 +7 spears 9D... 2 +7 swords 9D.. a +9 shield 9D +7 lvl 32 sword 2 +7 lvl 72 shields and numerous +6's and 5's its all luck based

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:10 pm
by _Creep_
LillDev!l wrote:
slimshady wrote:fail more times. how many times do you fail in a row before trying +5? i suggest at least 4-5.


failed 3 in a row :)

I usually fail 3-4-5 times and then try ++. This works for me, its not 100% but I think it helps. Since my friend made his set +7 this way, altough he destroyed many many items :D
EDIT: fixed mistakes

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:21 pm
by slimshady
_Creep_ wrote:
LillDev!l wrote:
slimshady wrote:fail more times. how many times do you fail in a row before trying +5? i suggest at least 4-5.


failed 3 in a row :)

I usually fail 3-4-5 times and then try ++. This work for, its 100% but I think it helps. Since my friend made his set +7 this way, altough he destroyed many many items :D




Get the item to +4 or +6 then add lucky to the item. Then fail 4 or 5 times in a row on a different item. Then try + the +4 or +6 item you have. :D

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:25 pm
by LillDev!l
slimshady wrote:Get the item to +4 or +6 then add lucky to the item. Then fail 4 or 5 times in a row on a different item. Then try + the +4 or +6 item you have. :D


im not To rich either, got 145m left atm.
ill be outta money in no time if i try it all like that :oops: xD

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:37 pm
by slimshady
LillDev!l wrote:
slimshady wrote:Get the item to +4 or +6 then add lucky to the item. Then fail 4 or 5 times in a row on a different item. Then try + the +4 or +6 item you have. :D


im not To rich either, got 145m left atm.
ill be outta money in no time if i try it all like that :oops: xD




Well dont buy elixirs, just use your own that you pick up...save up for a few weeks then go on a + spree! besides they cost too much...wep elixir like 500k wtf

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:09 pm
by ImmortalKiller
slimshady wrote:
LillDev!l wrote:
slimshady wrote:Get the item to +4 or +6 then add lucky to the item. Then fail 4 or 5 times in a row on a different item. Then try + the +4 or +6 item you have. :D


im not To rich either, got 145m left atm.
ill be outta money in no time if i try it all like that :oops: xD




Well dont buy elixirs, just use your own that you pick up...save up for a few weeks then go on a + spree! besides they cost too much...wep elixir like 500k wtf

I always leave my stalls up with NO stall network and 250k weapon elixers.

Those who don't whore around the stall network get lucky and leave me messages / offers on the gear I sell.


Gotta make stalling fun :P

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:59 am
by weymouthhall
I just pick a stable(least laggy) spot and fuse the shit away =)

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:02 am
by Ragnorak
Would any1 pay 500mil for this 2hand?
Spoiler!

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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:07 am
by Bop
Ragnorak wrote:Would any1 pay 500mil for this 2hand?
Image


no...350m tops..but im not rich so...and i cant live w/o a 2hand that isn't crit 12 or higher if its the endcap wep :p


and lol at sp...so surprised :!: :!: :roll:

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:23 am
by Ragnorak
I posted the SS to get an opinion on how much some1 is willing to pay for it....cuz it actually sold though I didn't really wanted to sell it :(
but I guess prices will continue to drop as time goes on...and I'm not as active like I use too.

Spoiler!




BTW if any1 could tell me how to hide the SS "spoilers" ect..I would appreciated..not every1 has DSL/cable >.>

btw: please don't start bit**ing about the AFK for 3-4hrs in guild chat...the guy said he was going to stall.

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:27 am
by Bop
Ragnorak wrote:I posted the SS to get an opinion on how much some1 is willing to pay for it....cuz it actually sold though I didn't really wanted to sell it :(





BTW if any1 could tell me how to hide the SS "spoilers" ect..I would appreciated..not every1 has DSL/cable >.>



to add spoiler?? its [spoiler][ /spoiler] w/o a space

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:37 am
by Toshiharu
Who'd pay 500mil for that? Jesus..

I do what Rag said. Don't add blues and if it doesn't even make +5 with a stack of elixirs I usually break them up.

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:40 am
by Mameluke
I stalled my 85+7 xbow few weeks ago for 650mil also, thinking no one would buy it.
Next day woke up and it was gone... Had to use +3 for a while :P

On topic: + first, then blues

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:40 am
by Messiah
I just +9'd my bow and cant even get +5 on my set..

Wasted all my luck *faceplam

BUT first 85+9 on Eos!

Spoiler!

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:33 am
by LillDev!l
Haha nice1 Rag :)
I also want to make a +7 atleast once, so im stacking weapons atm xD
what i really noticed, is that all 3 weps i have untill now went +4 first try, all failed +5, and never went back to +4 again after.
seems like it gets harder to plus if you just tried a lot :P
so, gna give it an other shot today :D

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:48 am
by weymouthhall
Heh happened to me b4 as well. Went out with friends so I stalled my 85+7 full blues crit 12 glaive for 800mil thinking no one would buy it. Came home and the thing was gone LOOL. Too bad I didnt know who was the retard that bought it since I stalled only the glaive and stall shop closed automatically after the glaive was sold :P

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:08 pm
by UniQ
people buy a lot of gold and then they dont care giving 100m more for a wep :S

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:15 pm
by LillDev!l
UniQ wrote:people buy a lot of gold and then they dont care giving 100m more for a wep :S


2 be honest, i dont think 500m is such a high price ?O.o
its a 85+7 with nice stats...

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:09 pm
by UniQ
LillDev!l wrote:
UniQ wrote:people buy a lot of gold and then they dont care giving 100m more for a wep :S


2 be honest, i dont think 500m is such a high price ?O.o
its a 85+7 with nice stats...


yeah, depends on server... i dont know about 9D weapons on troy, im just lvl69^^

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:46 pm
by _Creep_
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So I decied to try out my luck today :D

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:45 am
by LillDev!l
Failing doesnt really seem to work....
I had 5 rings at +1, and 5 weps at +3.
failed 5 rings in a row, tried first wep, failed, second > failed> third> failed> 4th failed > 5th failed ... meh
10 fails in a row >.>

EDIT: okay, 2 out of 5 weps are +5 now, took a while but well :love:
when i got 4 weps or more ill probs try going for +7 :oops:

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:50 pm
by Adroanzi
Don't even bother failing items for +3-+5. Only going for +6 and higher do I ever fail other items (I fail 2 items). It may be luck based anyways but it's my routine :). Have made about 30 9d +7's so far.

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:56 pm
by NO_SILK_4_ME
Adroanzi wrote:Don't even bother failing items for +3-+5. Only going for +6 and higher do I ever fail other items (I fail 2 items). It may be luck based anyways but it's my routine :). Have made about 30 9d +7's so far.



30!?!?!? WTF :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Re: Alchemy >.>

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:46 pm
by _Creep_
Adroanzi wrote:Don't even bother failing items for +3-+5. Only going for +6 and higher do I ever fail other items (I fail 2 items). It may be luck based anyways but it's my routine :). Have made about 30 9d +7's so far.

Post screenshots some of them. I also made my sun xbow +19 last night.