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To clear all the cloud of doubt out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:36 pm
by NuclearSilo
Well, i'm a Autoit programmer, i could make quite handful programs.
Here is the deal: I'll make a program that could scan your computer for bot program! After that, it generates an encryption string (that only me can decode) to tell if you have bot or not. It also give your IP address (for security reason, the first 2 parts of the IP is cut). Mods could do an IP to see if it matches.
For safety reason, i could eventually give the source code to the mods, they check and compile it.
Later, if it works well, i'd make a database Big Brother and keep track the activity of everyone daily
Of course, our Fly and Nightbloom would be invited to use first
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:41 pm
by thechampion80
i suppose if people don't use the program, you can flag them for botting huh
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:41 pm
by Crumpets
NuclearSilo wrote:Well, i'm a Autoit programmer, i could make quite handful programs.
Here is the deal: I'll make a program that could scan your computer for bot program! After that, it generates an encryption string (that only me can decode) to tell if you have bot or not. It also give your IP address (for security reason, the first 2 parts of the IP is cut). Mods could do an IP to see if it matches.
For safety reason, i could eventually give the source code to the mods, they check and compile it.
Later, if it works well, i'd make a database Big Brother and keep track the activity of everyone daily
Of course, our Fly and Nightbloom would be invited to use first
Sure, go go go.
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:42 pm
by Phaidra
What if you have more than one computer around the house?
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:43 pm
by Nitro
What if I delete my bot, scan my PC with your program and reinstal my bot?
How would you know do I bot?
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:48 pm
by sama98b
Who cares what you want. 99.999999 of the ppl bot even mods.
Stupidest idea to begin with.
After this idea you better gtfo from here.
Do you want the paypal and the cc passwords in front or you get it yourself.
And by the way autoit is a cheap sht not a programming language.
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:49 pm
by Phaidra
Seems like going a bit far to me anyway... might aswell give you remote access while I'm at it. A good idea in theory but in practice flawed.
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:49 pm
by Quyxz
nice method to hack people silo
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:50 pm
by Doppleganger
Why don't you just shove a leash up everyone's ass.
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:50 pm
by Berto
Watch like 70% of the SRF population be wiped off if that was enforced.
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:57 pm
by NuclearSilo
Phaidra wrote:What if you have more than one computer around the house?
More comp has same ip, but i can also detect MAC address.
But im aware that some noob would say "my brother bot his char on my computer, that's why you found it, but i don't bot!"
Nitro wrote:What if I delete my bot, scan my PC with your program and reinstal my bot?
How would you know do I bot?
Scanning method not only is files, but could be registry, history
(ur not going to erase your registry daily, right?)
Quyxz wrote:nice method to hack people silo
As said, the source code would be give to mods or who ever understand this language to check it.
Berto wrote:Watch like 70% of the SRF population be wiped off if that was enforced.
Isn't that what SRF always want?
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:59 pm
by CrazyPsycho
So if a new random kid, wants to make an account on SRF they need to have their PC scanned? If so, say good bye to any Incoming-New members on the forum. More and more people will leave since SRF will turn into dictatorship, "Do what I say, and do it when I say it". Thus SRF will slowly die with a lack of members joining, and a growing base of members leaving.
The idea isnt a bad one, however, it should be used on Mods, and people of authority/influence on the forum. After all, we cant have hypocrites setting examples for the rest of us.
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:04 pm
by Doppleganger
NuclearSilo wrote:Quyxz wrote:nice method to hack people silo
As said, the source code would be give to mods or who ever understand this language to check it.
What makes the mods trustable? lol Just because there mods?
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:05 pm
by strangelove
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:07 pm
by Kyau
Nitro wrote:What if I delete my bot, scan my PC with your program and reinstal my bot?
How would you know do I bot?
Bot is a software ! Its surely left some junk in your registry ! So that soft will detect it ! 99% of people don't know what registry is ! lol
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:16 pm
by DotCom
Sad...
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:17 pm
by Plutonium
LOL if everyone on SRF was forced to run that programmed.
95% of the SRF population with have a sig saying
<< Ban for proof of botting - SG >>
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:19 pm
by Nitro
Kyau wrote:Nitro wrote:What if I delete my bot, scan my PC with your program and reinstal my bot?
How would you know do I bot?
Bot is a software ! Its surely left some junk in your registry ! So that soft will detect it ! 99% of people don't know what registry is ! lol
If I had bot, well, I can scan my brother's PC, cant I, we are on same IP, and his PC never had any kind of bot on his...
What then?
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:21 pm
by Plutonium
CrazyPsycho wrote:The idea isnt a bad one, however, it should be used on Mods, and people of authority/influence on the forum. After all, we cant have hypocrites setting examples for the rest of us.
After nightbloom/Fly were exposed for botting and for distributing free softmod accounts to people and DarkJackal botting.... I don't know who to trust as a legit anymore.
I'm sadden that I used to admire nightbloom/Fly
I do know that if this is implemented, at least 95% of SRF population will be banned.
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:24 pm
by CrazyPsycho
Not to be a pain. But AutoIt isnt really "programing" if I for instance run an AutoIt script, it would jsut scan my PC, search through the registry for any bot related junk, then send my IP and the log of what it found/didnt find on my PC.
You fail to see that you can alter the AutoIt script, keep its basic functions, and let it send a bogus report/log from my PC with my IP adress attached. Afterall, AutoIt can be edited quite easily. There would be no way for you to know that im using an altered AutoIt. If you think you can use AutoIt to read what size of file I have/name/edit date etc, you can fake all of those with two to three lines of text.
As well, as Doppleganger said, Varifed by a Mod? Great, a mod verified it.. who exactly is he? How many mods on SRF have extensive AutoIt knowledge. And once they verify it, how do they dont know it wont be distributed by a third party, or even yourself with ill intentions.
Also, its interesting you would use AutoIt for this is. If your such a good programer, why not make it in another language?\. AutoIt will give you false positives all across the board if you use ANY antivirus software, meaning most people will have to shut down their antivirus software to use your "program/script"
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:25 pm
by strangelove
Nitro wrote:If I had bot, well, I can scan my brother's PC, cant I, we are on same IP, and his PC never had any kind of bot on his...
What then?
Yup, I think that would be a major loophole. Just use a computer without a bot installed for SRF and, voila, instant legit.
Anyway, I'm on a Mac so I don't have a registry. 
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:27 pm
by Nitro
Fug_Dup wrote:Nitro wrote:If I had bot, well, I can scan my brother's PC, cant I, we are on same IP, and his PC never had any kind of bot on his...
What then?
Yup, I think that would be a major loophole. Just use a computer without a bot installed for SRF and, voila, instant legit.
Anyway, I'm on a Mac so I don't have a registry.
Wooohooo ... 95% of banned SRF goes to 63%... Yay for brother's PC.
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:30 pm
by Shadowfox542
I agree, use for mods. It would destroy new members, as well as get rid of a large amount of the community. Personally, I don't care if you bot if you contribute to a good discussion. Bots>Trolls>idiots.
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:32 pm
by knucklehead
Plutonium wrote:CrazyPsycho wrote:The idea isnt a bad one, however, it should be used on Mods, and people of authority/influence on the forum. After all, we cant have hypocrites setting examples for the rest of us.
After nightbloom/Fly were exposed for botting and for distributing free softmod accounts to people and DarkJackal botting.... I don't know who to trust as a legit anymore.
I'm sadden that I used to admire nightbloom/Fly
I do know that if this is implemented, at least 95% of SRF population will be banned.
+1
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:35 pm
by sama98b
And don't forget srf is not the first silkroad forums.
Oasis and tavern died out sf is the next in the line.
Anyway my next forum is aionsource
ps.: not 95% but I think 99.99% the 0.01% long stopped playing.
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:43 pm
by parry36
NO! i will not give you my porn accounts!
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:46 pm
by Lowis
lol invasion of privacy think i'll pass....
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:47 pm
by Lowis
sama98b wrote:And don't forget srf is not the first silkroad forums.
Oasis and tavern died out sf is the next in the line.
Anyway my next forum is aionsource
ps.: not 95% but I think 99.99% the 0.01% long stopped playing.
GOD i cant wait for Aion so i can get out of this horrible game...
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:48 pm
by Doppleganger
Plutonium wrote:CrazyPsycho wrote:The idea isnt a bad one, however, it should be used on Mods, and people of authority/influence on the forum. After all, we cant have hypocrites setting examples for the rest of us.
After nightbloom/Fly were exposed for botting and for distributing free softmod accounts to people and DarkJackal botting.... I don't know who to trust as a legit anymore.
I'm sadden that I used to admire nightbloom/Fly
I do know that if this is implemented, at least 95% of SRF population will be banned.
lol i like how there is proof of them being botters but "OOPS Its past 90 days can't do anything about it sorry"
ppff What a joke
Barotix wrote:the mod team is still in discussion as to what actions
will be taken.
Don't get me wrong the mods are nice people but because avalon has this place by the balls Even they can't be trusted with a program like this to scan over 20,000 users. Too many things can happen, and too many things will happen. How often do you let other people scan your computer? If a program like this was made from a company say like Gameguard it would be different, I'd be all for that. But not for a "program" thats made from a single person like this, common.
Re: To clear all the doubt of cloud out there
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:49 pm
by -.-
is forced to run it, what makes you think we wouldn't just block it with firewall to keep it from sending data... or running it on virtual pc/sandbox :S
though it would be nice if joymax did it instead of gameguard but meh... you arent joymax lol no right to force people to download junk