Armor vs Garment

[mimiskis]

I've been doing some research on 9th degree armor and garments
i found that if u have full 3rd tier of armor (no % on whites, no blues, no +) and are pure int
you'll have 1212 physical defense and 1734 magical defense
While with garments ( no % on whites, no blues, no +) you'll have 935 physical defense and 2248 magical defense
What I want to know from u is, is it a good idea to sacrifice mobility, 514 phy defense and mp consmption for a 277 physical defense increase
Keep in mind both sets are not blued or plussed

[chesticles]

theres always pro ^^

[Mango]

I don't think you've taken reinforce into account.

[mimiskis]

i did take reinforce into account
This is using a level 90 pure int with 109 STR and 376 INT
It would be different if u were not a pure int
(All info taken from http://www.nivlam.com/?go=armor)

9th Degree Garment Set

Mage Hat
Phy defense power 111 (132.5)
Mag defense power 236.9 (394.
Phy reinforce 19.7%
Mag reinforce 42.0%

Mage Suit
Phy defense power 152.7 (181.6)
Mag defense power 325.7 (538.5)
Phy Reinforce 26.5%
Mag Reinforce 56.6%

Mage Trousers
Phy Defense power 121.2 (144.4)
Mag Defense power 258.6 (429.3)
Phy Reinforce 21.3
Mag reinforce 45.4%

Mage Talisman
Phy defense power 86 (103)
Mag defense power 183.5 (308.7)
Phy Reinforce 15.6%
Mag Reinforce 33.3%

Mage Wristlet
Phy defense power 77.5 (93)
Mag defense power 165.3 (279.2)
Phy Reinforce 14.2%
Mag Reinforce 30.3%

Mage Shoes
Phy defense power 101.4 (121.2)
Mag defense power 216.3 (362.2)
Phy Reinforce 18.2%
Mag Reinforce 38.8%

Total Defense
Phy Defense 935
Mag Defense 2248

9th Degree Armor Set

Black Leopard Casque
Phy defense power 135.7 (162)
Mag defense power 177.7 (296.1)
Phy reinforce 24.1%
Mag reinforce 31.5%

Black Leopard Armor
Phy defense power 186.6 (221.9)
Mag defense power 244.3 (403.7)
Phy Reinforce 32.4%
Mag reinforce 42.4%

Black Leopard Hose
Phy defense power 148.1 (176.4)
Mag defense power 193.9 (321.7)
Phy reinforce 26%
Mag reinforce 34%

Black Leopard Shoulder
Phy defense power 105.1 (158.4)
Mag defense power 137.6 (231.2)
Phy reinforce 19.1%
Mag reinforce 24.9%

Black Leopard Bracer
Phy defense power 94.7 (113.6)
Mag defense power 123.9 (209.3)
Phy reinforce 17.3%
Mag reinforce 22.7%

Black Leopard Footgear
Phy defense power 123.9 (148.1)
Mag defense power 162.2 (271.6)
Phy reinforce 22.2%
Mag reinforce 29.1%

Total Defense
Phy defense 1212 (+277 def)
Mag defense 1734 (-514 def)

I don't like protector

[AznFury]

theres always pro ^^

go pro

[Inferno_]

theres always pro ^^

go pro

i think protector is the best

[domooo]

theres always pro ^^

go pro

If you want to look like grown man trying to fit children clothing, if your character is male, that is.

[Blurred]

Protector is the best way to go. Who cares how you look.

[chesticles]

Protector is the best way to go. Who cares how you look.

Agreed. If your not going protector cuz u dont like the way it looks then you are an idiot

[mimiskis]

ill stick with garm and pimp it out

[NuclearSilo]

With garment, need 90 ice
With armor, need 90 fire
Protector, 90 fire, 90 ice for whoever wants high def but less damage

[mimiskis]

im S/S so 90 bich, ice, light no fire =)

[_Creep_]

Go protector and pk2 edit it garment or armor, what ever u want

[Asteroid]

70% of high levels i see are in garment. 20% protector. 10% armor

[Azilius]

IMO, ints are nothing without snow shield. In group pvp which is the shit that actually matters, an int without snow dies or gets extremely lucky. With garms you are 20% faster and use 20% less mana, which affects mana usage from snow shield. Garm + snow should be able to tank 2-4 people depending on what build/gear. If you REALLY care about 1v1 then prot might be the best way to go if you think you can kd/iron wall until the cooldown is done.

Long story short, int without snow is paper, garms help snow shield and make you faster. Who cares about armor when you're gonna die anyway without snow? At least garms can help you run =)

[Achilles990]

Garment gives u more mp, and if your moure int u could use lil more dont ya!

[NuclearSilo]

IMO, ints are nothing without snow shield. In group pvp which is the shit that actually matters, an int without snow dies or gets extremely lucky. With garms you are 20% faster and use 20% less mana, which affects mana usage from snow shield. Garm + snow should be able to tank 2-4 people depending on what build/gear. If you REALLY care about 1v1 then prot might be the best way to go if you think you can kd/iron wall until the cooldown is done.

Long story short, int without snow is paper, garms help snow shield and make you faster. Who cares about armor when you're gonna die anyway without snow? At least garms can help you run =)

Yeah, but when hunting mob, u are like 1 hitted in garment

[fckerr]

Go armor ! Looks so sexy ...

[Mousetrap]

Protector is the best way to go. Who cares how you look.

Agreed. If your not going protector cuz u dont like the way it looks then you are an idiot

I was thinking of switching to lightarmor for my rogue / cleric as I usually play cleric in parties (obviously), but then I saw how it actually looks and almost barfed. So I stuck with robe =D

[Azilius]

IMO, ints are nothing without snow shield. In group pvp which is the shit that actually matters, an int without snow dies or gets extremely lucky. With garms you are 20% faster and use 20% less mana, which affects mana usage from snow shield. Garm + snow should be able to tank 2-4 people depending on what build/gear. If you REALLY care about 1v1 then prot might be the best way to go if you think you can kd/iron wall until the cooldown is done.

Long story short, int without snow is paper, garms help snow shield and make you faster. Who cares about armor when you're gonna die anyway without snow? At least garms can help you run =)

Yeah, but when hunting mob, u are like 1 hitted in garment

....lol what? Maybe if you're hunting mobs 10 levels higher and you aren't using snow shield. What kind of pure int gets hit very often either? You one hit things your level and a few above. Not only that but pure int with S/S (you can easily make the switch for grinding) can tank without snow shield easily. Be realistic please..

[chesticles]

[color=#BF8000]

Protector is the best way to go. Who cares how you look.

Agreed. If your not going protector cuz u dont like the way it looks then you are an idiot

I was thinking of switching to lightarmor for my rogue / cleric as I usually play cleric in parties (obviously), but then I saw how it actually looks and almost barfed. So I stuck with robe =D

Yea I know...i almost stayed robes but I kept gettin owned by strs so I switched to LA cuz of the passive cleric buffs ^^[/color]

[yilin]

Protectors are best for nukers. armor to. Garment is like for str chars.

[NuclearSilo]

....lol what? Maybe if you're hunting mobs 10 levels higher and you aren't using snow shield. What kind of pure int gets hit very often either? You one hit things your level and a few above. Not only that but pure int with S/S (you can easily make the switch for grinding) can tank without snow shield easily. Be realistic please..

Pure int chinese. And im realistic. U can only 1 hit mob if they are - 3~4 your lvl. Same lvl, no, with a simple sword +3 and npc gear.
Dont talk as if i never play sro. A giant or party mob same lvl or less than 2 lvl could easily take you town in one crit.

[fangyuan]

....lol what? Maybe if you're hunting mobs 10 levels higher and you aren't using snow shield. What kind of pure int gets hit very often either? You one hit things your level and a few above. Not only that but pure int with S/S (you can easily make the switch for grinding) can tank without snow shield easily. Be realistic please..

Pure int chinese. And im realistic. U can only 1 hit mob if they are - 3~4 your lvl. Same lvl, no, with a simple sword +3 and npc gear.
Dont talk as if i never play sro. A giant or party mob same lvl or less than 2 lvl could easily take you town in one crit.

Well, obviously a pure int would die in npc gear without any blues, lol. You haven't stated the gear of the pure int in your post before, so don't blame Azilius.

think -> think -> think -> post. That's the order, not post -> post -> post -> think.

[chesticles]

But posting before thinking is half the fun xD

[NuclearSilo]

Well, obviously a pure int would die in npc gear without any blues, lol. You haven't stated the gear of the pure int in your post before, so don't blame Azilius.

think -> think -> think -> post. That's the order, not post -> post -> post -> think.

There is no need to think. If the thread starter didnt state that his gear is npc, it doesnt mean that his gear has blues. If his set is full sun, why bother to think about armor or garment? Both have wicked defense

[TheDrop]

Protector is the best way to go. Who cares how you look.

Agreed. If your not going protector cuz u dont like the way it looks then you are an idiot

I was thinking of switching to lightarmor for my rogue / cleric as I usually play cleric in parties (obviously), but then I saw how it actually looks and almost barfed. So I stuck with robe =D

i agree 9D robe looks badasss =D

[Azilius]

....lol what? Maybe if you're hunting mobs 10 levels higher and you aren't using snow shield. What kind of pure int gets hit very often either? You one hit things your level and a few above. Not only that but pure int with S/S (you can easily make the switch for grinding) can tank without snow shield easily. Be realistic please..

Pure int chinese. And im realistic. U can only 1 hit mob if they are - 3~4 your lvl. Same lvl, no, with a simple sword +3 and npc gear.
Dont talk as if i never play sro. A giant or party mob same lvl or less than 2 lvl could easily take you town in one crit.

Try to follow the argument as it happens. I'm no longer talking about an NPC set with a +0 sword. I'm talking about a REALISTIC situation in where a pure int is PvP'ing or grinding. Follow earlier instructions of think->think->post..

[NuclearSilo]

Try to follow the argument as it happens. I'm no longer talking about an NPC set with a +0 sword. I'm talking about a REALISTIC situation in where a pure int is PvP'ing or grinding. Follow earlier instructions of think->think->post..

This is what u posted

IMO, ints are nothing without snow shield. In group pvp which is the shit that actually matters, an int without snow dies or gets extremely lucky. With garms you are 20% faster and use 20% less mana, which affects mana usage from snow shield. Garm + snow should be able to tank 2-4 people depending on what build/gear. If you REALLY care about 1v1 then prot might be the best way to go if you think you can kd/iron wall until the cooldown is done.

Long story short, int without snow is paper, garms help snow shield and make you faster. Who cares about armor when you're gonna die anyway without snow? At least garms can help you run =)

In which sentence u talk about blues? What is real and what is not real?
Grinding is not real, pvp without blue or good set is not real?

[thechampion80]

use armor and get the fire nukes to be awesome >.> not