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Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:26 pm
by Mousetrap
nearly full sun spear
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=227892sun heavy armor
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=116716glavie using sun spear
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=198190sun bower
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=917285sun blader
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=258272another sun blader
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=228754another sun bower
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=227962These are all people I've beaten in 1v1 pvps, and not only once. None aside from the warrior in heavy armor has beaten me yet.
Here's me;
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=1063014So.. warrior cleric; best or best?
I never use bless or skins unless I'm getting ganged or they are pure STR using snow with sun, though I never used them on any of the mentioned people up there except for the second sun blader.. because he was just so turkish!
It just amazes me how much money people throw into a character and still get owned by someone in a pretty basic set.
Anyway, discuss.
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:31 pm
by chesticles
grats?
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:32 pm
by Mousetrap
looking for an actual discussion not a one word post.
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:35 pm
by chesticles
Mousetrap wrote:looking for an actual discussion not a one word post.
Ok. I think that no one cares. Honestly until you post a vid u can say u beat a gm. Just saying it proves nothing. AND for all we know those ppl could have killed u 50x before u killed them 3. hows that?
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:42 pm
by yilin
All builds are best if you just know how to play with it.
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:42 pm
by Mousetrap
A little better, I suppose. Though I was just using those people and myself as examples / references.. not bragging. I think you misunderstood the entire post.
on a sidenote though, I am making a video with most of those people included :]
for anyone else who misunderstood like chesticles here; this is about any warrior cleric. They are just such an amazing build.. it's one of few builds where skill > gear imo.
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:45 pm
by chesticles
im a warrior/cleric. yes its a fun build and can tank alot. I also have a sun shield n i wear light armor ^^
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:27 am
by Infectious
Glad to hear that you don't need godly armor/weapons to be a good warrior/cleric, cause im making one and it's my first ever character. Having some trouble farming though ;x
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:30 am
by Berto
Imo it's the euro build of 90 cap. Put them in the right hands of course.
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:11 am
by AnarChaos
I think a npc set warrior/warlock can kick ur azz so well
))
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:24 am
by Infectious
AnarChaos wrote:I think a npc set warrior/warlock can kick ur azz so well
))
So if it was a warrior/warlock Vs. a warrior/cleric, both with NPC sets, who would win?
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:31 am
by OTG
Infectious wrote:AnarChaos wrote:I think a npc set warrior/warlock can kick ur azz so well
))
So if it was a warrior/warlock Vs. a warrior/cleric, both with NPC sets, who would win?
Warrior/Cleric hands down.
@ Topic Starter
To be honest I think it's all about how you PvP. Im 87 Blader with protector on and I can tank out a FF 90 3 weapon Warrior/Cleric enough to give him bleed and roll him. I notice alot of people (80%+) are absolutely clueless in how to properly pvp with their builds. I mean an 87 blader with not even a good set can tank and beat a 90 warrior cleric with sun chest! 25% has to do with build, 25% has to do with skills and 50% with gear. My gear is about 80% done, once it is 100% perfect and I can get full farmed 90, i'll be rolling everyone haha hopefully.
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:31 am
by lilly_
Infectious wrote:AnarChaos wrote:I think a npc set warrior/warlock can kick ur azz so well
))
So if it was a warrior/warlock Vs. a warrior/cleric, both with NPC sets, who would win?
pot fight, the guy that has the most pots would win
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:44 am
by Cerus
Most Euro builds are over powered.
As off now, Warrior/Warlock is the "KING" of overpowered builds.
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:49 am
by the_wicked
meh, i lose sometimes to glaivers in armor that i cant kill fast (well, only one. Green, full 85-89 set with sos chest armor with a +9 glaive) and bladers are fcking hard to kill. otherwise i dont see why anyone is surprised that the rest died.
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:54 am
by KneeGrow
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:55 am
by Shadowfox542
Mousetrap wrote:A little better, I suppose. Though I was just using those people and myself as examples / references.. not bragging. I think you misunderstood the entire post.
on a sidenote though, I am making a video with most of those people included :]
for anyone else who misunderstood like chesticles here; this is about any warrior cleric. They are just such an amazing build.. it's one of few builds where skill > gear imo.
Im the same build, all 3 weapons and loving it. Win 5/6 times with gap8. S/s nukers in armor pwn me for now, until i close gap...I hope.
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:30 am
by StacE
Im better than all of you.
So just stfu and lock the thread cos it has no purpose.
The question makes no sense.
Skill in SRO, what the **** are you smoking.
There is no skill in lucking 3 crits in a row. Or blocking 5 shots in a row. The game is all about who has better gear. Just because some downie turk can't press 2,3 consecutively like you can doesn't mean you're skillful. It means you can push 2 and 3 and he is a downie.
MMO's are the most un-skilled computer games possible. Being good is built upon time playing mindlessly bashing at a keyboard and nothing else. The only element of skill that comes into play is in an arena based scenario involving teamwork. Which SRO has none of. You win FW if you play alot and con enough people into being your bot-buddy friends.
For the kids over at Venus that will barge in here claiming they are the most skillful SRO players to ever grace Joymax's shit game, you aren't. Numbers and gear will always be the dominating factors.
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:38 am
by Mango
It's fairly obvious that warrior clerics are overpowered. Euros on the whole fit the "excellent at X but awful at Y, and Y is compensated for by Z other class" idea, which is what they should be. Wizards can do huge damage but all except the best die very quickly. Clerics can heal and tank 1v1 very well, but they can't kill (I'm assuming no one is slow enough to let them do an offering). But then we have warriors/clerics who can have crazy high defence for 90 seconds, who can switch to cleric and tank indefinitely if they want to, deal the same damage as a nuker, have multiple instant cast skills that cancel attacks, can close the gap between themselves and an enemy instantly and can break down both sorts of walls with relative ease. I'm sure people will say "oh but any class can be the best if you play it right" and "warrior/clerics take lots of skill to be good at" which are both sort of true, but really it doesn't take that much practice to know what tactics work and to be good at weapon switching, and when you can dull and kd someone and do double damage to them it's pretty clear that they have no chance.
tl;dr: Yes they are the best.
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:43 am
by boast
not as fun when every other char is a warrior
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:43 am
by Argonaut
StacE wrote:For the kids over at Venus that will barge in here claiming they are the most skillful SRO players to ever grace Joymax's shit game, you aren't. Numbers and gear will always be the dominating factors.
We are the most skillful SRO players to ever grace Joymax's shit game.
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:47 am
by StacE
Argonaut wrote:StacE wrote:For the kids over at Venus that will barge in here claiming they are the most skillful SRO players to ever grace Joymax's shit game, you aren't. Numbers and gear will always be the dominating factors.
We are the most skillful SRO players to ever grace Joymax's shit game.
Some Farking idiot had to do it. I guess your shit head thought it was funny.
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:51 am
by Fly
StacE wrote:Argonaut wrote:StacE wrote:For the kids over at Venus that will barge in here claiming they are the most skillful SRO players to ever grace Joymax's shit game, you aren't. Numbers and gear will always be the dominating factors.
We are the most skillful SRO players to ever grace Joymax's shit game.
Some Farking idiot had to do it. I guess your shit head thought it was funny.
go back to getting butt raped by the bots on your server. just because you have no skill, does not mean no one else does. there are plenty of people on all the servers with skill.
now run along dumbass
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:52 am
by Cerus
*graps popcorn*
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:59 am
by StacE
Fly... It's an MMO. You win by playing more. How is that skill?
How about we start another colony on a new server Fly. And pretend it's as strong as the others so we can talk about how good we are? Sounds fun ye.
EDIT* Hang on I'll give the game some credit. There is some skill involved. The skill level to reach peak though is so small that anyone can pick it up in a matter of hours to days. Once you learn when to press 2 and when to press 3 there is no better way to do it. The situation is the same every time. The way to beat someone is the same every time.
The only time that a different situation is presented is through the use of randomized blocking and critting. But that detracts from the idea of a skillful game. There should not be luck involved in a game requiring skill.
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:18 am
by Mousetrap
lilly_ wrote:Infectious wrote:AnarChaos wrote:I think a npc set warrior/warlock can kick ur azz so well
))
So if it was a warrior/warlock Vs. a warrior/cleric, both with NPC sets, who would win?
pot fight, the guy that has the most pots would win
are you kidding me lol, the warrior cleric would rape the warrior warlock.. all the warlock sub can do is give bleed (which both of the ones I recall pvping didn't use) and a quick stun.
@stace you sound like a tard, lul. There's luck in just about every game I can think of.. except chess or something gay >_>.
@mango best post in thread award
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:54 am
by the_wicked
hmph.
i hate idiots.
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:56 am
by weymouthhall
I agreed warrior/cleric is, if played correctly, one of the most dominant builds in sro atm. Warriors alone are basically overpowered with all different and insane skills. I however, as a warrior/rogue, did not find any problems finishing warrior/cleric off though. Though warrior/cleric sure deal high damages and has great hp recovery with great defenses, the damages it deal is slow, and there are a lot of ways that you can counter that, IMO. Of course if you know how to use your char properly loolz.
I have never been beaten by a warrior/cleric in my server.
@ Mousetrap, with your robe sets like that, against other warriors with heavy armor set full blue pimped or warrior/rogue like me, you wont even have a chance of winning, to be honest
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:49 am
by Mousetrap
weymouthhall wrote: @ Mousetrap, with your robe sets like that, against other warriors with heavy armor set full blue pimped or warrior/rogue like me, you wont even have a chance of winning, to be honest
mmm.. second link in first post; the guy has 4 suns and som legs heavy armor and I beat him so I guess I have a chance o.O.
lrn2reed
Re: Warrior Cleric; best or best?
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:57 am
by frankaslt1
ok i play on ur server i know all these ppl good, the reason why uwin becasue they suck at playing their chars. Like sunzin guy i bet u used shitload vigors vs becasue there is no way u could tank him, and there is no way u could kill him in snow shield + vigors + spec pills. Same about other most of them suck at playing their chars
the warrior with som/sun set just put 2h + warcry, he doesn't use any techniques.