Every euro is going warlock

[Vindicator]

Vindicator you are baed...

I'm guessing all walls are supposed to be Lvl 1 then, no one can have them farmed that would just be stupid...

I agree with you that walls mean nothing but you are just being stupid...

I feel like you've never experienced someone with a high level wall as a Warlock...

I have faced as bad as it comes. Burn_Up on alps is the most annoying pvp ever. Full force archer, sosun bow, maxed out firewall. What everyone here fails to realize, is that as a WARRIOR sprint assault removes fire wall even though it does not do magical damage. Be it bug or whatever, try it yourself. Even with a sosun bower using fire wall, healing himself with force, and using the force cure against statuses, I win every time.

For anyone NOT a warrior, they can use warlock skills to bypass the fire wall, as their damage will much greater since they are int. (A rouge warlock can say f it because he can 1 hit KO anyways, screw the firewall.)

Communication barriers suck. I'll be the third party mediator:

Nuclear is talking about the max level fire/ice wall at level 80. You guys appear to be talking about the level 1 fire/ice wall. Refer to absorbtion. There is a distinct way absorption works in this game (e.g.) a certain amount of damage won't hit the user, it is just absorbed and in this game when something is absorbed it doesn't make contact with the user. Its like a certain amount of your damage was chopped off.

I know this. But as i said before, warrior sprint assault removes fire wall. If you dont want to use sprint assault, you can use warlock skills and the fire wall will still go down from magical damage. I've faced many lvl 80 fire walls because everyone had the same idea, that I wouldnt be able to curse them. They were sadly mistaken.

If you are not a warrior warlock, then you are int, or a rouge. Ints will break the fire wall that much faster, stun, curse, gg. A rouge can just ignore the fire wall. They have the farthest distance, move back and blast them to hell while they sit in a ring of fire. GG.

Practice > theory, and as a warrior / warlock in practice, I KNOW that firewall is very minimally effective even though im pure str.

[Barotix]

Practice pwns theory
SRO = Bug ridden >.<

Yeah I understood your point of view 100%, but I enjoy theoretical battles (as long as I don't get a headache).

[NuclearSilo]

I have faced as bad as it comes. Burn_Up on alps is the most annoying pvp ever. Full force archer, sosun bow, maxed out firewall. What everyone here fails to realize, is that as a WARRIOR sprint assault removes fire wall even though it does not do magical damage. Be it bug or whatever, try it yourself. Even with a sosun bower using fire wall, healing himself with force, and using the force cure against statuses, I win every time.

Ok. U win. I didnt know such bug exists, phy attack can break down a firewall...

But dont be so happy later. Since it's a bug, JM will fix it as soon as someone report it. I'll wait your next stategy then.

As if saying everyone delete their rogue and wizard because invisible doesnt work anyone more because of pk2 hack and game full of bugs...

PS: dont just rely everything on bugs, coz u'll regret later

[Vindicator]

I have faced as bad as it comes. Burn_Up on alps is the most annoying pvp ever. Full force archer, sosun bow, maxed out firewall. What everyone here fails to realize, is that as a WARRIOR sprint assault removes fire wall even though it does not do magical damage. Be it bug or whatever, try it yourself. Even with a sosun bower using fire wall, healing himself with force, and using the force cure against statuses, I win every time.

Ok. U win. I didnt know such bug exists, phy attack can break down a firewall...

But dont be so happy later. Since it's a bug, JM will fix it as soon as someone report it. I'll wait your next stategy then.

As if saying everyone delete their rogue and wizard because invisible doesnt work anyone more because of pk2 hack and game full of bugs...

Take fire wall down with my magical nukes, not hard. Fire walls take massive damage. My glaiver with lvl 80 firewall takes 30k nukes from noob lvl 80 nukers, and since a fire wall only has about 9.6k hp, im sure a pure str warlock can manage to do that much dmg in a few nukes...not hard at all.

But i cant help but smile at your most common reply "JM will fix the bug"

[Fireblazer]

Seems that i have to repost my question since noone anwesered it
Do the debuffs work on an opponent who has max holy word but who has also disease

[BloodOwnzzz]

Ok this took a while to find but I definitely believe Da_Realest over you...

Assuming KB hits, scorn is canceled: switch to Xbow use KB (move name escapes me) on archer, followed up by KD(assuming it hits 2x 50% each 100%): switch to dagger activate DD scud to archer and prick for 40k. Warlock/Cleric stuns cleric/bard, Cleric cast Bless spell.

Your move.

1. This bow user is in Armor not Garments like a typical bow user. Not to mention the Fences casted on my Armor Bow user. You're not hitting 40k even with a critical.
2. You can't kd or knockback an opponent that has a wall casted.

With that said, your Rogue won't kill me. So you may want to rethink that step.. If not, I can continue.

[BloodOwnzzz]

Seems that i have to repost my question since noone anwesered it
Do the debuffs work on an opponent who has max holy word but who has also disease

If there is no extra immunities, like Fire Shield or Charity, then they will go through. If there is they won't go through.

And gratz on hitting 10th Degree.

[Vindicator]

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[Barotix]

Seems that i have to repost my question since noone anwesered it
Do the debuffs work on an opponent who has max holy word but who has also disease

It won't be 100% of the time, but it increases the chance of debuffs getting through. Ideally it should go back to normal levels because:

100% weakening and curse prevention
100% increase of weakening and curse getting through.

100% prevention VS 100% increase = 0% prevention/increase (e.g.) normal levels. Remember this is assuming that there are no other weakening probability decrease buffs such as Chinese Fire Shield bug.


EDIT: Vin fix your post XD

[Vindicator]

Ok this took a while to find but I definitely believe Da_Realest over you...

Assuming KB hits, scorn is canceled: switch to Xbow use KB (move name escapes me) on archer, followed up by KD(assuming it hits 2x 50% each 100%): switch to dagger activate DD scud to archer and prick for 40k. Warlock/Cleric stuns cleric/bard, Cleric cast Bless spell.

Your move.

1. This bow user is in Armor not Garments like a typical bow user. Not to mention the Fences casted on my Armor Bow user. You're not hitting 40k even with a critical.
2. You can't kd or knockback an opponent that has a wall casted.

With that said, your Rogue won't kill me. So you may want to rethink that step.. If not, I can continue.

Who are you talking to?

EDIT: Vin fix your post XD

Haha, did you see what i typed? or just the "["?
Could you please delete that post

[BloodOwnzzz]

Who are you talking to?

Yeh of course you don't realize I'm talking to you... Not like it blows your, I'll just sprint assault you, strategy out of the water or anything...

[Vindicator]

Who are you talking to?

Yeh of course you don't realize I'm talking to you... Not like it blows your, I'll just sprint assault you, strategy out of the water or anything...

well damn, i just owned you but edited it cuz i thought u were talking to bara -_- LAME!

Ill own you again.

Ok this took a while to find but I definitely believe Da_Realest over you...

Assuming KB hits, scorn is canceled: switch to Xbow use KB (move name escapes me) on archer, followed up by KD(assuming it hits 2x 50% each 100%): switch to dagger activate DD scud to archer and prick for 40k. Warlock/Cleric stuns cleric/bard, Cleric cast Bless spell.

Your move.

1. This bow user is in Armor not Garments like a typical bow user. Not to mention the Fences casted on my Armor Bow user. You're not hitting 40k even with a critical.
2. You can't kd or knockback an opponent that has a wall casted.

With that said, your Rogue won't kill me. So you may want to rethink that step.. If not, I can continue.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLLLLLLLLL
You gotta be kidding me dude. You have read NOTHING so far in the topic. Your complete lack of comprehension is appauling and I myself can not comprehend how you can post and debate something that has been answered many times before. Since you cant be bothered to go back....
Never ONCE did i say you could do that. I have already shown how to remove the stupid blinking firewall. Once the firewall is gone, its GONE and you can kb and stun. Is it so damn hard to understand?


Some people boggle my mind with their idiocy.

[NuclearSilo]

Maybe it could break the firewall instantly, but not icewall. I've fought many warrior same lvl. I kill him 1 nuke + 1 lion shout + 1 ghost spear. Barely need 5s, while he can only hit 2 hits my icewall.
It's easy to say, but when u fight, it takes u more time to bring a wall down that just clicking an assault button. Euro fight Chinese, Tank vs Nuker never last more than 10s

[Hellracer]

Well, i had a warlock as it was the cool thing to do at the time, i wanted to be unique, etc. My war/wiz combo basically destroyed all China build, but 2h/Cleric will be your worst enemy, I seriously dont think Diease has any affect at all i had a lvl 80 warlock, my diease was 9, his holy at 8, he always resisted. 1 hit with madden i died.

So i decided to rebuild a new char on a new server lol cuz i couldnt handle dying xD

[Vindicator]

Maybe it could break the firewall instantly, but not icewall. I've fought many warrior same lvl. I kill him 1 nuke + 1 lion shout + 1 ghost spear. Barely need 5s, while he can only hit 2 hits my icewall.
It's easy to say, but when u fight, it takes u more time to bring a wall down that just clicking an assault button. Euro fight Chinese, Tank vs Nuker never last more than 10s

What level are you? No one, not even fully sunned chinese nukers can beat me at lvl 80. Low level pvp is easy because there are many variables involved. A 1h warrior warlock is the best tanker in the game. I can tank and kill 2 sun glaivers, and there is no euro sosun, so my gear is obtainable by any average joe.

Nukers are by far the easiest to kill. If your fighting a warrior / cleric, they should bless or use mana skin, and you nukes are like twigs. If your fighitng a warlock, stun, vampire kiss, impotent, division, decay, panic, hidden, sleep, *take out sword* sprint assault, daring beserk, dead. If you use ice shield, i start with my warrior sword out, use mana skin, sprint assault, do a quadruple stab, a slash, once your all is down, kb, sprint to stun / kb again, take out warlock rod, stun, and act as if the pvp just started without a wall on. Even if you manage to get a wall up, You will have panic and at least hidden on you, which is more than enough to kill you with.

[BloodOwnzzz]

There are two ways to break a fire wall. Warrior sprint assault breaks it, and so does magical damage. Since the fire wall has no mag defense, it is hit like a mangan, and a lvl 72+5 warlock rod does a couple k dmg. Just attack it with a magic skill and its gone.

Nuclear, have you even played sro lately? Do you have ANY remote, minute ounce of experience with a cleric, warlock or warrior? Do you even understand the game beyond what stats on a website tell you? As someone said before, practice > theory, and everyone here with credible experience in the matter is telling you that you are wrong.

Um... Your in some kinda crazy denial or something lulz...

[Vindicator]

There are two ways to break a fire wall. Warrior sprint assault breaks it, and so does magical damage. Since the fire wall has no mag defense, it is hit like a mangan, and a lvl 72+5 warlock rod does a couple k dmg. Just attack it with a magic skill and its gone.

Nuclear, have you even played sro lately? Do you have ANY remote, minute ounce of experience with a cleric, warlock or warrior? Do you even understand the game beyond what stats on a website tell you? As someone said before, practice > theory, and everyone here with credible experience in the matter is telling you that you are wrong.

Um... Your in some kinda crazy denial or something lulz...

Wow. *puts on a twisted painfull smile* Listen....for once...

Sprint assault DOES break fire wall. You CAN NOT kb, or kd someone in a fire wall, but that is irrelevant. Sprint assault cant kd, and it has never, in my experience kb someone using firewall, but it DOES break the fire wall so now they CAN be kd, kb and stunned and cursed.

DO
YOU
UNDER-
STAND
ENGLISH?

[BloodOwnzzz]

Yeh well Sprint Assault doesn't break the wall... I'm not going to believe your word over Da_Realest... Video proof or there is nothing backing you up...

[Vindicator]

Yeh well Sprint Assault doesn't break the wall... I'm not going to believe your word over Da_Realest... Video proof or there is nothing backing you up...

True ignorance. I could care less if some kid believes me or not. It is what it is. Anyone can test it out.

[NuclearSilo]

pic or it didnt happen <_>

[Vindicator]

Im not home so i cant. Im sure you know SOMEONE thats a warrior...put up a firewall and tell them to keep using sprint assault. It works.

[BloodOwnzzz]

Why the **** would it break down the wall. The only reason it would is if KB actually worked and would knock them out of the wall, and KB doesn't work on people with walls... It is either a bug with the skills or it doesn't work. I'm leaning more towards it doesn't work because there is no reason why that shouldn't have been known by now as a bug...

[Barotix]

Why the **** would it break down the wall. The only reason it would is if KB actually worked and would knock them out of the wall, and KB doesn't work on people with walls... It is either a bug with the skills or it doesn't work. I'm leaning more towards it doesn't work because there is no reason why that shouldn't have been known by now as a bug...

Its a bug, I would test it but I don't know any Chinese who leveled the walls. This sprint assault bug is bad and needs to be fixed.

[EngravedDemon]

I have faced as bad as it comes. Burn_Up on alps is the most annoying pvp ever. Full force archer, sosun bow, maxed out firewall. What everyone here fails to realize, is that as a WARRIOR sprint assault removes fire wall even though it does not do magical damage. Be it bug or whatever, try it yourself. Even with a sosun bower using fire wall, healing himself with force, and using the force cure against statuses, I win every time.

Ok. U win. I didnt know such bug exists, phy attack can break down a firewall...

But dont be so happy later. Since it's a bug, JM will fix it as soon as someone report it. I'll wait your next stategy then.

As if saying everyone delete their rogue and wizard because invisible doesnt work anyone more because of pk2 hack and game full of bugs...

Take fire wall down with my magical nukes, not hard. Fire walls take massive damage. My glaiver with lvl 80 firewall takes 30k nukes from noob lvl 80 nukers, and since a fire wall only has about 9.6k hp, im sure a pure str warlock can manage to do that much dmg in a few nukes...not hard at all.

But i cant help but smile at your most common reply "JM will fix the bug"

It's not a bug... Stun/KB/KD Removes Fire/Ice Walls...

Seems like alps is a noob server if no one can kill a measly 1h/warlock build...

[EngravedDemon]

Seems that i have to repost my question since noone anwesered it
Do the debuffs work on an opponent who has max holy word but who has also disease

It won't be 100% of the time, but it increases the chance of debuffs getting through. Ideally it should go back to normal levels because:

100% weakening and curse prevention
100% increase of weakening and curse getting through.

100% prevention VS 100% increase = 0% prevention/increase (e.g.) normal levels. Remember this is assuming that there are no other weakening probability decrease buffs such as Chinese Fire Shield bug.


EDIT: Vin fix your post XD

With holy spell, the only debuff/disable a warlock can land is stun and that one that induces bleed.

[Vindicator]

It's not a bug... Stun/KB/KD Removes Fire/Ice Walls...

Seems like alps is a noob server if no one can kill a measly 1h/warlock build...

HA. Obviously you have never fought a warlock warrior that has any clue of what to do.

Your first statement gave me a sigh of relief that someone with intelligence came into the topic, but your next statement made me /facepalm, and we are back where we started.

Seems that i have to repost my question since noone anwesered it
Do the debuffs work on an opponent who has max holy word but who has also disease

It won't be 100% of the time, but it increases the chance of debuffs getting through. Ideally it should go back to normal levels because:

100% weakening and curse prevention
100% increase of weakening and curse getting through.

100% prevention VS 100% increase = 0% prevention/increase (e.g.) normal levels. Remember this is assuming that there are no other weakening probability decrease buffs such as Chinese Fire Shield bug.


EDIT: Vin fix your post XD

With holy spell, the only debuff/disable a warlock can land is stun and that one that induces bleed.

And panic, which is the best curse against chinese chars,

[EngravedDemon]

@Vindicator

Heh, you talk as if it takes any skill to switch from rod to 1h sword... Maybe you haven't fought anyone who actually knows how to fight a Euro char, a 1h/warlock for that matter... That or you've been fighting too many Chinese builds, 'coz Debuffs work like wonders on them.

Seen and fought so many warrior/warlocks & rogue/warlocks even cleric/warlocks, they're only really good on Mass Pvps when they have numbers on them where they can pick off targets easy and avoid being targeted, otherwise they're just trash... Stuns can really be annoying though, it's like 100% rate... Ohh and a noob warlocks doing outside Lv 1 scream mask buffs... 35% Probabilty my ass...

Not trying to put u down, must be a fun build, but tone the smugness down a little, it's nowhere near being that good of a build. BTW, how much pills do you burn out? Recovery is cheap but those cure ones can get expensive, Hehe...

[Ze_ToKiN]

Im undefeated on alps. Even Hawa in full sosun garms and sosun +7 glaive lost to me. Using snow shield and vigors. Warlock is just plain amazing, and for those saying a warlock in war is useless, its obvious you have never experienced one. Truly exceptional in wars. Cant tell you how many times i turned the tide when hutners were being slaughtered without killing one thief. With a few buffs, some warlock work, the thieves go down e-z. Dont even try to say cleric beats it all, because no it doesnt. Warlocks can still curse, and use select skills that are extremely usefull in defeating clerics, even unsuited ones buffing thieves.

stop lying i owned u yesterday xD

[Vindicator]

@Vindicator

Heh, you talk as if it takes any skill to switch from rod to 1h sword... Maybe you haven't fought anyone who actually knows how to fight a Euro char, a 1h/warlock for that matter... That or you've been fighting too many Chinese builds, 'coz Debuffs work like wonders on them.

Seen and fought so many warrior/warlocks & rogue/warlocks even cleric/warlocks, they're only really good on Mass Pvps when they have numbers on them where they can pick off targets easy and avoid being targeted, otherwise they're just trash... Stuns can really be annoying though, it's like 100% rate... Ohh and a noob warlocks doing outside Lv 1 scream mask buffs... 35% Probabilty my ass...

Not trying to put u down, must be a fun build, but tone the smugness down a little, it's nowhere near being that good of a build. BTW, how much pills do you burn out? Recovery is cheap but those cure ones can get expensive, Hehe...

lvl 80 pvp? Either troy is complete trash when it comes to euros, or your in low lvl pvp in which case everything is different.

As for the pills...universals are dirt cheap, and i hardly ever have to use the special ones. I can waste 50 pills of my opponent and use maybe one of my own.

Any chinese build is easy to kill so i wont bother with them. As for owning euro builds:

Warrior:
1h/warlock- Same build in pvp, the gear and the skill of the player is what makes a difference here. Its really anyones game.

2h/cleric:
At first glance, it seems to be a tough fight, but in honesty, its not. The warrior will use bless and have holy word on. Since your 1h and have a shield + phy def passive, you can tank them well. Spam kb and sprint assault as much as possible. If for any reason your hp goes low because he stuns you and crits, swap to warlock, shield bash, stun, and using your vampire skills (can use 3 in a row because one is fast cooldown) your hp is full. Go back to warrior for extra def and continue with the bashing him around. After he uses iron skin, put yours up. Not you just wait it out. No one should die in this period. Once his iron is gone, shield bash, sprint assault, warlock rod: stun-panic-advanced reflect. Swap back, and start attacking. Every time he does his lvl 80 skill, use your kb. Most of the time you will cancel it by kbing him. When he does land a hit on you, hes hurting himself. WIth your around 300 extra phy defense over him, he will go down faster than you. (you also have a higher damage return)

ROUGE:
Fairly easy. Dont bother with warlock here. Iron skin, sprint and just kill him. You have 45 seconds of immortality against his attacks, he will run or die.

WIZARD:
The only time i lose to a wizard is if im pvping someone and they attack me, or im standing around and they pop out of invis...not really pvp. They kill me once and only once. After that, put on vital increase (29k hp ftw). Soon as he comes out of invis, put on mana screen, sprint to him to stun/kb him. His attack is canceled, and now a quad stab will kill him. If not, a slash finishes him off.

For added fun, use warlock on his ass. Stun him as soon as u see him, put on hidden, then sleep and sit on the ground. In a few seconds he blows up and you can just laugh. Or, use advanced reflect...nothing better than sending a wizard back to town when he nukes you and kills himself

CLeric
Sometimes a long fight cuz they heal, but their lack of attack skills makes them a no-threat enemy. You need to keep stunning and doing kb to stop his healing and eventually he will die. If hes foolish enough to stop healing and attacks you, he dies. If he uses bless, go into shield bash, and sprint spam mode. Make use of warlock double stuns and soon enough his bless is gone.


Name any build for me, and i will tell you how to fight it. I have died before, but anything can happen in luck. In a best of 10 match, I have never lost.

edit:

stop lying i owned u yesterday xD

shhhhh they dont know that . Hurry up and get to lvl 80 already.

[Ze_ToKiN]

cant...since joshan got scammed for his sun no one to plvl me..and im to lazy to hand grind