Bakemaster wrote:I don't give a rat's ass about the justice system. Which justice system? The almighty court of the internet? It has no bearing here. And even if it did, who's going to jail? "Santa" is not a court, he is a vigilante. He is not imprisoning people, he is stealing their posessions. And if his list comes from a master list of bot users, nobody on that list is innocent! If we're going with the legal metaphor, they committed a crime with no statute of limitations and no maximum sentence. By using the bot even once, that account is forfeit, including any future gains no matter how legitimate. If they didn't happen to be banned by Joymax when they botted, that doesn't mean their guilt is absolved. Justice does not say, "It's only wrong if you get caught."
So, when not in America, the idea of law with due process is invalid? Yes, Santa is a vigilante, one with criminal tendencies and obvious self aggrandizement issues. You dont know where he got those names. Some of them are very old accounts, ones that have been made murderer because a LOT of ppl have the account information. That alone makes his claim suspicious. And the future gains of the suspect are forfeit but the gains of the vigilante are not? He is just as bad, if not worse than probably the majority of the ppl he claimes to have hacked.
Bakemaster wrote:nightbloom wrote:Bakemaster wrote: It's more like, they left their car unlocked overnight, and now it's gone.
- Am I sorry it happend? Of course!
- Does this make their neighbor afraid that perhaps his car will be stolen? Of course it does!
- Is the carjacker a terrorist? Hell no!
He might be considered so if he published in the newspaper that every single person in America who has ever left their car door unocked is now a criminal and being as how the law isnt properly taking care of this issue to his satisfaction, he has now decided to steal every single car in the US that has ever had it's car door unlocked overnight. Not only that, but now, locking your car door does no good, repentance and a change of your former unlocking ways is immaterial, you will have no car in the morning.
That's a different situation. People who leave their car doors unlocked are not criminals, but players who bot are. Changing your ways is all well and good, and if someone repents and starts a new account and never bots on it, they are in the clear! But not the account they used the bot on. They lost the right to keep that account. Too bad, good bye. Should have changed your password.
You are right, that is a bad example, but that is one you gave me. Let's put in a different light, shall we?
Santa is sick and tired of ppl cheating at Monopoly. It clearly states in the official rules of Monopoly that taking an extra $200 from the bank when you pass go is just blatantly again the rules. In order to combat Hasbro's lack of reponse on this issue, Santa is going to commit several FEDERAL CRIMES. You guys are going to stand around and call him just, a Monopoly Robin Hood, a hero. He is going to print out a manifest touting his list of supposed go cheaters (I do notice that he has taken their names and email off, but they were there originally). People are going to look at eachother with suspicion. Every hacking victim from now on is branded as a Monopoly cheater and suddenly the casual Monopoly game offender is more vilified than the federal criminal. Funny.
Bakemaster wrote:There are honest criminals. A criminal is someone who breaks the law. Sometimes it is just to break the law. I will forever trust the word of a just man over the word of a man who is only obedient.
I dont think the truly just man commits a federal crime to punish gamers. That is just a criminal with a lame and narrow focus of what we are doing here. We are playing a game. I dont like botters (tho, God knows, miniFly has made a killing in botters' gear), but I REALLY dont like hackers. Your casual botter plays, gets maxed, loses interest and generally moves on to the next game. Your hacker stays where the money is and we know that Santa is making money, he said so himself.
<<banned from SRF for rules violations: being a constant problem. -SG>>
-retired
Bake is right(OMG never evaaarrr thought id say that...)
