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DerpDieDerp wrote:Good video, but I resent the way you "pvp" :(
Its merely using stealth, running like hell, and repeat again.



This is why people say euros are overpowered, and its true. Is there a chinese build out there that at lvl 80 can crit another lvl 80 for 34k with a measly +5 wep? Don't think so.


Vid's well done, and you play to your characters strengths. This cap just sucks for Chinese char.

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Your video shows nothing, I didn't want to put u down in ur video, but here it goes:

1, first kill that glaiver didnt even hit u once, so how are u tanking him?
2, oh wow u killed a NUKER, congrats, then sure u tanked them all the way to the safezone, but can u kill anything other than int based nukers?
3, another glaive kill, again without him hitting at u once! so tanking is useless again
4, same as above
5, crit kill one hit, no tanking needed again
6, wow guess what another nuker...
7, cool, another nuker, a spear this time
8, same guy as above again, this time he didn't even hit u once.
9, this time not a nuker, a glaiver, so u can kill a glaiver with xbow, guess what, so can I...whats new? one on one, u use the stun skill, and then change to xbow to finish them off, or dont even need to stun them, just kill them, nothing that I cant do either.
10, took for ever to kill him this time, your dagger obviously wasnt doing enough dmg, then u changed to xbow and got a crit kill.
11, same guy again, this time u got an early crit in with dagger then finish him off after some time,
12, another spear nuker
13, same as above
14, same one again
15, guess what same spear user again
16, now a glaive, u got in double crit on him, then KD right after. I'd like to see u kill someone none-Int without crit.
17, a blader, who killed u
18, then u used stealth and killed him wihtout he hitting back once.

To sum it all up.
Your battles last forever
U only can kill INT normally.
For STR people u needed crit to win. In one single case there was no crit, but there was stun KD and KB.

Sure I can't tank like u do, but guess what I kill INT in ONE single skill. Newsflash: I can kill str in 3 skills without going stealth first too, most of the time Butterfly blow and Mortal wounds is all needed to take out a glaiver.

In other words clerics defense buff and healing for rogue is a waste of time.


im character wit hi crt weapon and i depend on crts... u got what like 15-16crt daggers? thats lame...

yea sometimes my battles lasts more than urs... basicly beacouse i dont die like u...

man u r weird if u dont see what advantage cleric subclass gives to a rogue than u r noob?

oh and btw im rogue too u kno i can do exatcly the same thing as u can...

im done talkin wit u...
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Rakion wrote:LOL why didnt you use X-bow at the first place?...

anyways... i always love your bind thing on bard :P

Only use xbow at last resort, or on Mercs user, daggers do more dmg.
Pham wrote:juey i love ur vid especially hunter vids, cuz i hate those thief on pacific, when ur killing thiefs on pacific pm me il help out lol

you're phat_yang, from Hmong_Pride right?
DerpDieDerp wrote:Good video, but I resent the way you "pvp" :(
Its merely using stealth, running like hell, and repeat again.
Being a wizard (80, legit) I have the option to use invisibility,
yet i've never used it in any pvp sofar, and i've pvped quite a lot.

Can't you try to use status effects,
or try to work as a group with some friends?
It looks better, you have a higher winning chance,
and you dont need to to abuse that stealth.

But again, good video :)

wizards and rogues can't be played same way :D
Rogue are supposed to be sneaky stealthy attacking from the dark type character.
I mostly work alone, cuz people take time to gather the logistic is just too much work, this was an emergency situation they needed help immediately, no time to wait for anyone else to come.
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[SD]Rainigul wrote:I liked the gladiator music.

Halo theme songs..lol

no Rainigul is right, it's from Gladiator, one of the best moviefilm ever!
XCaosX wrote:1st music u put is just the bestttttttttttttttttt
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and nice video,u should make videos with stories....hmmm like deity of sword or what is it,i dont know the name well...but i think some ppl heard about it.

Did one some time ago, it's just that I'm kinda dry on ideas for this kind of moviefilm
"Last Robbery" (really last one, before I became Euro and turned to being Hunter)
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larvs wrote:dont leave Iowu, this sub class discussion was actually getting interesting. i think what it is is whether you want to tank (cleric sub) or whether you want to hit and run (bard sub) well, initially that is, but there's something more to that im sure.

it's also hard to exactly compare coz you guys are on the opposite jobs (talk about a real match up) i figured, duriong trade runs, rogues are just limited especially during multi's as they lack AOE, cept for that bind bard skill, but then again, it's just bind. for thieving, i guess it's also not entirely safe as you would have to face multiple spawns.

please come back IowU, both you can really be an inspiration.

I was kinda acting like a thief, and the thieves were acting like traders with hunter protection when they got the loots and fighting off hunter NPCs. They tried to protect their oxes and I tried to kill them and take their goods.
Normally on traderuns, I'm either the scout or the guy running around in stealthy only there to take care of player thieves, I rarely do NPCs. If I have to, I have fast shot and long shot, which can shoot out like machine guns fast with longest range in game, fast shots shoot at 3 targets same time too, perfect for taking lower lv NPCs in one hit. They eat bolts like crazy tho.
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DerpDieDerp wrote:Good video, but I resent the way you "pvp" :(
Its merely using stealth, running like hell, and repeat again.



This is why people say euros are overpowered, and its true. Is there a chinese build out there that at lvl 80 can crit another lvl 80 for 34k with a measly +5 wep? Don't think so.


Vid's well done, and you play to your characters strengths. This cap just sucks for Chinese char.

my dagger is +7
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Your video shows nothing, I didn't want to put u down in ur video, but here it goes:

1, first kill that glaiver didnt even hit u once, so how are u tanking him?
2, oh wow u killed a NUKER, congrats, then sure u tanked them all the way to the safezone, but can u kill anything other than int based nukers?
3, another glaive kill, again without him hitting at u once! so tanking is useless again
4, same as above
5, crit kill one hit, no tanking needed again
6, wow guess what another nuker...
7, cool, another nuker, a spear this time
8, same guy as above again, this time he didn't even hit u once.
9, this time not a nuker, a glaiver, so u can kill a glaiver with xbow, guess what, so can I...whats new? one on one, u use the stun skill, and then change to xbow to finish them off, or dont even need to stun them, just kill them, nothing that I cant do either.
10, took for ever to kill him this time, your dagger obviously wasnt doing enough dmg, then u changed to xbow and got a crit kill.
11, same guy again, this time u got an early crit in with dagger then finish him off after some time,
12, another spear nuker
13, same as above
14, same one again
15, guess what same spear user again
16, now a glaive, u got in double crit on him, then KD right after. I'd like to see u kill someone none-Int without crit.
17, a blader, who killed u
18, then u used stealth and killed him wihtout he hitting back once.

To sum it all up.
Your battles last forever
U only can kill INT normally.
For STR people u needed crit to win. In one single case there was no crit, but there was stun KD and KB.

Sure I can't tank like u do, but guess what I kill INT in ONE single skill. Newsflash: I can kill str in 3 skills without going stealth first too, most of the time Butterfly blow and Mortal wounds is all needed to take out a glaiver.

In other words clerics defense buff and healing for rogue is a waste of time.


im character wit hi crt weapon and i depend on crts... u got what like 15-16crt daggers? thats lame...

yea sometimes my battles lasts more than urs... basicly beacouse i dont die like u...

man u r weird if u dont see what advantage cleric subclass gives to a rogue than u r noob?

oh and btw im rogue too u kno i can do exatcly the same thing as u can...

im done talkin wit u...

Now are you saying your character is depending on weapon? Cuz clearly even with wizard sub, it won't matter if you can just kill them with a crit.
The only reason ur battles last longer, is because you want to show that u can tank, but same time doing lousy damage so the battle keep dragging on and on, without neither of you able to kill each other, until u get in a crit, stun or KD KB.
I acknowledge that cleric sub is completely useless for me. If this is noob, make the most of it.
U need bard sub to be able to do everything I can, I'm afraid.

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Look at my buffs: Physical dmg increase, Magical dmg increase, physical dmg absorb, magical dmg absorb, hit rate increase, ALL of them from bard skill, and needed 3 bards for all those buffs. Invincible party.
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nice vid,


which version of We are free did you used in the 1st part ?
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heroo wrote:nice vid,


which version of We are free did you used in the 1st part ?

actually the track I used was " Honor him ". "now we are free" comes right after this one.
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Wow :shock:
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i am glad with your vid jue007 i always love your vids, but why is it so hard to understand that your combination isnt the better one when you talk about pvp?

After watching your video its clear that you only use the bard to run simple solution for that get 100% speed potions (oh and noise but god those mobs surely would hurt you badly!!)
Compare your build with iowu build in same situation
he would simply use bless and kill them all right away and when the situation gets tricky run because he has speed potion.

You are either bard or rogue you cant combine them both effective, last picture you posted with all bards buffs you can tank great but what if you had cleric you could do the same and even heal yourself when situation gets tricky and let the mercs do the work.

actually your video is showing the weaknesses of your combination and not the strengths.

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borat2 wrote:i am glad with your vid jue007 i always love your vids, but why is it so hard to understand that your combination isnt the better one when you talk about pvp?

After watching your video its clear that you only use the bard to run simple solution for that get 100% speed potions (oh and noise but god those mobs surely would hurt you badly!!)
Compare your build with iowu build in same situation
he would simply use bless and kill them all right away and when the situation gets tricky run because he has speed potion.

You are either bard or rogue you cant combine them both effective, last picture you posted with all bards buffs you can tank great but what if you had cleric you could do the same and even heal yourself when situation gets tricky and let the mercs do the work.

actually your video is showing the weaknesses of your combination and not the strengths.

noise isnt there to keep me from dying by monster, it's so that they dont hit on me so i can stealth faster. Ever try getting towards taklamakan entrance without getting hit once by mob, hard isnt it?
IowU would never be able to tank those with kamikaze skill on, and without them on, he can never kill any of those pure str, and definately not 4 of them same time, you are talking out of your ass here im afraid. And didn't I say I never pay anything just to help somone? Why would i pay 250k for the drug just to go out there and help some traders??
My video shows me taken care of 4 player thieves and took the loots back. Call that weakness if u want. IowU would probably waste his 250k and still end up with nothing. The way he fights and tank, it takes for ever, those theives would had plenty of time to come back and finishes off the traders and gang up on him constantly. As fast as I killed them, they kept coming back for more, now imagine me takes 5 times longer to kill them.
At the traderun I play the role of bard to help the ones doing the npc killling have an easier job with more dmg boost, and the ox takes less dmg from both physical and magical npc.
If player thieves comes i would quickly switch over to rogue. BTW we already have one cleric in party...one cleric is enough for all the buff.
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you could at least make the job faster with cleric, he could have done that a lot faster kill them all in probably half of your time due to the speed drugs and come on what is 250k? you probably waste more money on pots than you would on speed potions guess its time for you not to buy pots since they are too freaking expensive because you don`t want to waste money to help people, give me a break :roll:

Like i said before it takes a man to admit his mistakes. its not weak to kill 4 of them but its weak how its done a build like iowu would have done that a lot faster and probably more effective.

so there you go you finally admit that your combination does not work you can either do bard or either rogue, you can`t like a cleric would give them bless switch to rogue and help them with the damage dealing.

your combination is good but not in the pvp way but more in the share grind party way.

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borat2 wrote:you could at least make the job faster with cleric, he could have done that a lot faster kill them all in probably half of your time due to the speed drugs and come on what is 250k? you probably waste more money on pots than you would on speed potions guess its time for you not to buy pots since they are too freaking expensive because you don`t want to waste money to help people, give me a break :roll:

Like i said before it takes a man to admit his mistakes. its not weak to kill 4 of them but its weak how its done a build like iowu would have done that a lot faster and probably more effective.

so there you go you finally admit that your combination does not work you can either do bard or either rogue, you can`t like a cleric would give them bless switch to rogue and help them with the damage dealing.

your combination is good but not in the pvp way but more in the share grind party way.



First can you just please explain to me how he would kill FASTER with cleric sub??? I'm really curious on what you have to say.

And second on that traderun we ALREADY have a cleric that can cast bless!

Lastly the amount of pots I use is minimal, compared to a 250k which just seems like extra cost just to help someone.
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start as cleric no idea how all those skills are called freeze 1 (blind?) take bless switch to rogue (less running less dying and when the situation gets critical you can still run with 100% speed drugs) oh and btw you got a crossbow why don`t you switch to it when you gain distance? i am just not as amazed about how you play your character as i am from other rogues that is my only criticism.
i have nothing against rogue bard but its not as effective in pvp as rogue cleric.

second bless takes 2minutes to recharge right? having someone else who can also bless when the situation gets critical is always welcome i believe that npc thief are not such a big problem. my point is you are either rogue or bard the combination of both isnt that effective in pvp situations.

seriously what is 250k at your level? i believe you said you can stall and play at same time (might be mistaken) therefor gold cant be such a big problem to level 1 whole mastery for it.

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Nice vid.
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Juey wrote:
IowU would never be able to tank those with kamikaze skill on, and without them on, he can never kill any of those pure str, and definately not 4 of them same time, you are talking out of your ass here im afraid.



I guess someone hasn't seen IowU's stage6 vids ......

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borat2 wrote:start as cleric no idea how all those skills are called freeze 1 (blind?) take bless switch to rogue (less running less dying and when the situation gets critical you can still run with 100% speed drugs) oh and btw you got a crossbow why don`t you switch to it when you gain distance? i am just not as amazed about how you play your character as i am from other rogues that is my only criticism.
i have nothing against rogue bard but its not as effective in pvp as rogue cleric.

second bless takes 2minutes to recharge right? having someone else who can also bless when the situation gets critical is always welcome i believe that npc thief are not such a big problem. my point is you are either rogue or bard the combination of both isnt that effective in pvp situations.

seriously what is 250k at your level? i believe you said you can stall and play at same time (might be mistaken) therefor gold cant be such a big problem to level 1 whole mastery for it.

You still haven't explained how he would kill faster, all you're saying is about tanking, cuz the momment he used the Extreme skills, his defense get lower considerably, and all tankings goes straight out of the window, and I'd like to see him kill some str without Extreme buff, without crit.
I have over 250m, 250k is really nothing, but let me ask u, 10k is like nothing to u and everyone, but would u give someone 10k just because they asked "10k plz?"
and Xbow kill too slow, trust me I have tried and found out Daggers is best and fastest.
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Juey wrote:
IowU would never be able to tank those with kamikaze skill on, and without them on, he can never kill any of those pure str, and definately not 4 of them same time, you are talking out of your ass here im afraid.



I guess someone hasn't seen IowU's stage6 vids ......

You know it helps if you read all the replies first then reply.
IowU wrote:watch Devil_IowU pvp compilation u can see everything there...
i recorded movie when i had +5 daggers 20crt and now im having fun wit +7 25crt...
ur char is just weak and thats it... pity u spend so much cash on that char...
dude im done talkin wit u... u tryin to proove that u r char is great but its just rogue + running potion and cleric bind can bind also 3ppl =.="

cleric subclass gives u huge advantage u can tank, lure, buff , heal and rip every1 azz...

rogue+bard is good for training but notin more...
im tired and wont post pics of my stats
1.9pedf and 2.6k mdef wit daggers
2.4k pdef and 3.4k mdef wit cleric rod and shield


Your video shows nothing, I didn't want to put u down in ur video, but here it goes:

1, first kill that glaiver didnt even hit u once, so how are u tanking him?
2, oh wow u killed a NUKER, congrats, then sure u tanked them all the way to the safezone, but can u kill anything other than int based nukers?
3, another glaive kill, again without him hitting at u once! so tanking is useless again
4, same as above
5, crit kill one hit, no tanking needed again
6, wow guess what another nuker...
7, cool, another nuker, a spear this time
8, same guy as above again, this time he didn't even hit u once.
9, this time not a nuker, a glaiver, so u can kill a glaiver with xbow, guess what, so can I...whats new? one on one, u use the stun skill, and then change to xbow to finish them off, or dont even need to stun them, just kill them, nothing that I cant do either.
10, took for ever to kill him this time, your dagger obviously wasnt doing enough dmg, then u changed to xbow and got a crit kill.
11, same guy again, this time u got an early crit in with dagger then finish him off after some time,
12, another spear nuker
13, same as above
14, same one again
15, guess what same spear user again
16, now a glaive, u got in double crit on him, then KD right after. I'd like to see u kill someone none-Int without crit.
17, a blader, who killed u
18, then u used stealth and killed him wihtout he hitting back once.

To sum it all up.
Your battles last forever
U only can kill INT normally.
For STR people u needed crit to win. In one single case there was no crit, but there was stun KD and KB.

Sure I can't tank like u do, but guess what I kill INT in ONE single skill. Newsflash: I can kill str in 3 skills without going stealth first too, most of the time Butterfly blow and Mortal wounds is all needed to take out a glaiver.

In other words clerics defense buff and healing for rogue is a waste of time.
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Juey, it's the fact he has the option to tank, to bind, to regain hp etc etc etc.

I'm not putting bard down but what do you have?
1). Extra speed? -Moving scrolls / Typhoons
2). Noise? -Simply avoid monsters ......
3). All your 30+% this , that and whatever else. -Can't use them without a Harp.

But be my guest, you've obviously learned how to play with bard .. and look as if you are doing well. The reason people are askign why not Cleric is ... well simply Cleric is a quicker / easier choice.

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