BE or NOT to be blader when cap 90 come

PrincessChei2x · Post by **PrincessChei2x** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:44 pm

only 1 nuke not 2 or 3 >_<

Yasakira · Post by **Yasakira** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:25 pm

PrincessChei2x wrote:only 1 nuke not 2 or 3 >_<

Only 1 type of nuke. They can have multiple light nukes going cant they? And since they are using a nuke (even if it is one) doesnt it make them a nuker?

HybridNuke · Post by **HybridNuke** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:30 pm

be like everyone else and go standard pure int s/s or pure str glavie...

better go blade and prove everyones wrong.

m1 · Post by m1 » Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:46 am

HybridNuke wrote:be like everyone else and go standard pure int s/s or pure str glavie...

better go blade and prove everyones wrong.

Nice

No sooner said than done

Fly · Post by **Fly** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:35 pm

PrincessChei2x wrote:
Yasakira wrote:
PrincessChei2x wrote:
Hershey wrote:
PrincessChei2x wrote:
Yasakira wrote:
PrincessChei2x wrote:a blader can pawn anyone (except for europe coz I havent tested it with them yet) given the exact proper items vs an enemies exact perfect wepons... ^^

ill give you all a situation,

PURE INT, BICHEON (shield BR 23) +Ice shield , Light and Fire FULL SO/SUN Vs ( any build with SO/SUN items)

Can anyone picture it out? out of 5 attacks 3 would be blocked >_< not to mention the new skills @ cap 90(tripple/quad stabb >_< and status ailments)

When people say blader they mean str characters..not int. Ints who use bicheon skills arent bladers, they are still nukers.

a nuker has fire on its build and not a bicheon user but spear type! besides, what do you call a bicheon skill user? the common term? is it Blader? I havent heard anyone called a pure int Bicheon as "sworder". Where is your common sense?

A nuker that uses bicheon.. Is called a S/S nuker <33

S/s is int
Blader is str

how can you be called a nuker with out fire and Ice nukes??????

My commen sense is right where it should be, in my head. Apparently yours is missing cause you have no idea what youre talking about. Ints=nukers. No matter what force trees they get they will have at least 1 nuke. Bladers are strength. They use BLADES. Nukers dont use blades. Get it?

so what do you call a pure int in the 150 lvl gap? with only bicheon 140, lighning 100 and ice 60?

lol. i would call him a noob. with light 100 your missing 50% of your damage as an int :roll:

hemagoku · Post by **hemagoku** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:20 pm

Vindicator wrote:
Manowar wrote:
Vindicator wrote:
Manowar wrote:
I think bladers, if anything, will get better at 90 cap not only because people will still be using XL pots and well have skills up to lvl 90 (hopefully), but bladers will also have a second double stab skill (meaning you can quad stab someone) w/ the 4th book stab (has a crit 5 increase on the skill as well). I wouldn't count them out just yet.

actually, the next book is 3 stabs, so its a quintuple stab

It's two. Here's the skill description:

w/e the stupid video looked like 5

it also says 5 c increase which is good for bladers but bad for me

_BloodStorm_ · Post by **_BloodStorm_** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:46 pm

KK now wut really pisses me off is people saying "ksro does this.. ksro does that" now wut i really want to know wut version of sro u playing? if it is Isro then stop talkin about wut ksro does, as someon said they have different situations...

Second of all, i aint trying to be rude but... nuker builds are for noobs and the only thing they depend on is their luck, on the other hand if you look at pure strs they have a hella lot of hp, especially bladers, now that gives the player a chance to figure out the strategy in which they are gonna wipe out the enemy in the least amount of time, in order to do this u need experience, experience in pvp that is.

Third of all, if you don't know wut u talkin about then STFU, if you ever had a blader that reached that cap then.. AND ONLY THEN you can say your opinion, don't judge on that specific build cauze some other guy told you so... have your own opinion dude, i don't mean that all people are like i'm just sayin that most of you do

Fourth of all
PEACE!

the_wicked · Post by **the_wicked** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:48 pm

this is quite a debate....I know that at our current cap, a capped blade vs. a capped glaive results in a potwar, because only with division + bleed + crit 2 or 3 in a row, no victor will come out. Bladers are best vs. Nuker builds and bows, because bow attacks take time and a block means full hp for blader...However, i may continue my blader till cap, get my skillst o 73 and farm, wait for cap increases.....i may in fact continue my blader.....however, i want to know what is going to happen with all the new skills. Quad stab w/ division and bleed might come out to be more effectice than sss + sse + gsm

the_wicked · Post by **the_wicked** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:07 pm

I might actually put off my int character for a while, and work on farming my blader. The Thing i love about cap is you can be 80 with a 7 gap and still kill int players, based on bleed and division (and you get barely any new skills that are useful in PVP) I have a lot of farming to do (probably around 80-100K) and im still only lvl 70. I feel that at 100 cap, with the new stun chain + stabs + status errors+shield reduce buff, bladers can be very able to kill in pvp (however, it will not be 2-3 skill, each pvp may take over 3 mins to finish)

Yasakira · Post by **Yasakira** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:42 pm

_BloodStorm_ wrote:KK now wut really pisses me off is people saying "ksro does this.. ksro does that" now wut i really want to know wut version of sro u playing? if it is Isro then stop talkin about wut ksro does, as someon said they have different situations...

Second of all, i aint trying to be rude but... nuker builds are for noobs and the only thing they depend on is their luck, on the other hand if you look at pure strs they have a hella lot of hp, especially bladers, now that gives the player a chance to figure out the strategy in which they are gonna wipe out the enemy in the least amount of time, in order to do this u need experience, experience in pvp that is.

Third of all, if you don't know wut u talkin about then STFU, if you ever had a blader that reached that cap then.. AND ONLY THEN you can say your opinion, don't judge on that specific build cauze some other guy told you so... have your own opinion dude, i don't mean that all people are like i'm just sayin that most of you do

Fourth of all
PEACE!

Str chars take a lot less experience than int. Str..most people just go pure. Ints can be good as hybrid and it takes experience to make a good one. Glaivers just spam 3 skills (formerly 2). SSE, SSS, GSM. A spear nuker has to use those skills and nukes and incorporate them all into a pvp strategy. Same with int s/s. Use nukes, kd/stabs, chains and you have to have a plan.

Ints based on luck? Not really. I can easily tank a str my level, I only die if I get crit. And guess what, a crit is luck. Maybe strs are more luck based than ints?

I dont have a capped blader, but I have pvpd a lot of them. So I think I have experience to judge them. Dmg is weak, defence is high. Its always the same, unless you have sosun. The new status effects do through some unpredictable events into pvp, but its mostly still the same.